WHY do some people have dumping?

KenGaus
on 12/3/13 3:44 am - Kitchener, Canada

I know that some people experience "dumping" from high fat or high sugar content foods.

 

My question is WHY, what happens in our pouch or sleeve that causes those symptoms to manifest themselves upon us.

 

Just curious, I am pre-surgery but have been wondering this for a while

 

thanks

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Grim_Traveller
on 12/3/13 4:13 am
RNY on 08/21/12

http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/rny/4661761/Everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-dumping/

 

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Patm
on 12/3/13 4:26 am - Ontario, Canada
RNY on 01/20/12

Awesome post. Wish I knew who DX was. He definitely had a great way of explaining things

  

 

 

 

Candy V.
on 12/3/13 5:00 am - MI
RNY on 09/12/12

I found this in an old post,  it should help :)

 

Dumping Syndrome and Gastric Bypass Surgery

What is dumping?

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Dumping syndrome is a group of symptoms caused by rapid passage of undigested food into the small intestine. The stomach has a valve at the top and bottom, and serves as an acid-filled storage tank, breaking food intake down into small, component parts and passing it to the small bowel in small increments.

After gastric bypass, ingested food passes directly into the small bowel, mixed only with saliva, but not the stomach acid. The component parts of the undigested food remain fairly intact and therefore large.

The small intestine responds by diluting the ingested food through a process of “water recruitment.” The “richer” the food, in terms of sugar content, the more water will rush into the small intestine to dilute it. This is referred to as “early dumping.”

Early Dumping and Late Dumping
Early dumping occurs a few minutes to 45 minutes after eating. Symptoms are not life-threatening, but can be frightening to the unsuspecting patient. Symptoms of early dumping are:

  • Weakness and fainting
  • Sweating
  • Irregular and rapid heartbeat
  • Low blood pressure
  • Flushing of the skin
  • Dizziness
  • Shortness of breath
  • Vomiting
  • Diarrhea and cramps

Late dumping occurs two to three hours after eating. It is caused by excess insulin produced in response to rapid entry of food and fluids into the small intestine. The high insulin levels lower low blood glucose level and cause symptoms including:

  • Perspiration
  • Hunger
  • Shakiness
  • Anxiety
  • Difficulty to concentrate
  • Exhaustion
  • Faintness

The diagnosis of late dumping syndrome can often be confirmed through frequent blood sampling to measure blood glucose.

You can prevent early and late dumping by avoiding the foods that cause dumping. In other words – sugars, starches, and fried foods. Eat at least five to six small, evenly spaced meals a day. Take meals dry (i.e. withou****er or beverages, and drink fluids only between meals). Because carbohydrate intake is restricted, protein and fat intake should be increased to fulfill energy needs. Examples include meats, cheeses, eggs, nuts, toast, potatoes, and rice crackers. Milk and milk products are generally not tolerated and should be avoided.

Each person has a different tolerance, and you will discover what your personal safe foods might be throughout your post surgery life. Person “A” might have no problem with strawberries and person “B” might experience dumping every time a few strawberries are eaten and person “C” might be able to eat strawberries only if they are a little unripe. You will learn what your own trigger foods might be. Be aware that these may change over time as your bypass matures.

General Measures to Treat Dumping
For early dumping, lie down for 45 minutes until symptoms pass to minimize the chances of fainting. For late dumping, eat small amounts of sugar candy or drink sweetened juice until the symptoms of low blood sugar resolve. Additionally you can supplement food with dietary fibers such as fruit, vegetables, and grain products. Many medical therapies have been tested, including pectin, guar gum, and glucomannan. These dietary fibers form gels with carbohydrates, resulting in delayed glucose absorption and therefore avoiding a sharp increase in insulin. However in 3 to 5 percent of instances, severe symptoms of dumping can continue despite dietary changes. This results in marked weight-loss, fear of eating and outdoor activities, or even an inability to maintain full-time employment.
 

Medical management of dumping includes acarbose or octreotide. Acarbose delays absorption of food and maintains an even blood glucose level. Octreotide is an analog of a hormone in the digestive system that can alleviate dumping by inhibiting insulin release and by slowing transit of food in the small intestine.

Dumping is Common
Dumping syndrome is a common post-surgical complication after gastric surgery. The symptoms of dumping may cause considerable morbidity. If medical management fails to provide adequate symptom relief, remedial surgery should be offered with the understanding that even surgical intervention may not be successful. Normally most patients have a spontaneous recovery as the digestive system adapts after surgery. Early dumping syndrome usually occurs for three to four months after surgery. Late dumping syndrome can occur for an entire year, but may persist for many years. If you experience any of these symptoms, contact your health provider to review your food diary and implement changes to help you.

Adapted and excerpted from Obesity Action Coalition.

URL: http://www.obesityaction.org/magazine/oacnews3/What is Dumping.pdf
Reviewed by Susan Weiner, R.D., M.S., C.D.E., C.D.N. 3/08

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beargirl
on 12/3/13 5:32 am - Canada
RNY on 10/09/13

Thank you for posting this. Your responses were a great source of information. I am 7 week post op and I experienced my first dumping today while at work. I had gone to the gym at lunch and when I returned I warmed up my supper from last night. Knowing I had a conference call in 20 min I may have just ate too fast or too soon after drinking water at the gym. At any rate it was the most uncomfortable conference call not knowing if I was going to run to the washroom or not. Finally it happened and I felt instant relief. Remember liquid 1/2 hour before and after you eat and eat slowly.

    

        
robynimac229
on 12/3/13 6:54 am
RNY on 08/21/13

My doctor suggested I try adding things slowly back into my diet one at a time so I could take note if I had any dumping from anything, so far so good, I have had none.

Good luck when you have your surgery.

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MsBatt
on 12/3/13 7:10 am

Honestly---no one knows. Anyone CAN dump, even people who've never had any form of WLS. Having any sort of surgery on your stomach or small intestine increases your likelihood of dumping, but it's taking the pylorus out of your digestive system that's most likely to cause dumping.

Dumping is a VERY specific insulin response, and lots of people *think* they're dumping when they're not----they've just eaten foods that didn't agree with them. True 'dumping syndrome' happens when too much un-digested sugar hits a part of the small intestine that rarely sees undigested sugar, in the 'normal' anatomy. This causes the intestine to send signals to the pancreas saying "I need lots of insulin---RIGHT NOW! I've got lots of sugar  here,  and that means more is coming!"

But it's not---it's just that undigested sugar ha**** parts of the small intestine that it shouldn't have, usually. So the pancreas sends down too much insulin. In order to deal with this un-needed insulin, the small intestine starts pulling water from surrounding tissues. This can cause cramping, bloating, diarrhea, vomiting, sweating, dizziness, and eventually, sleepiness.
 

As I said before, this CAN happen to anyone. .I suspect nearly everyone has experienced mild forms of this at some point. After the RNY, it's likely to happen more often, and be more severe.

MrsLitch
on 12/3/13 1:00 pm - Morris, IL
RNY on 06/04/12

For those reading for information please note LATE dumping is a insulin response. Early dumping is NOT.

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MsBatt
on 12/3/13 7:11 am

High fat can certainly cause some distress---but it does NOT cause dumping syndrome. See my other post. Dumping syndrome is strictly sugar-related.

Candy V.
on 12/3/13 7:58 am - MI
RNY on 09/12/12

Thank you for stating this.  I have given up trying to correct all those that say the DUMP on fat.

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