Question:
I am being real !! 6weeks post-o[p

I don't want to get any mean mail. I would just like to know what you all think. First off I get 70-80 oz of water a day, and I only drink water. Second I get in 40-50 grams of protien in too. But this is the kicker. I can eat about 7oz at a time,not 3 or 4oz. I eat that about three times a day and I have one snack that is crakers are cheese ect.. when I dump it is just sweating,thats all and if I eat slow enough I don't dump at all. (I had 3 oz of real brownie) I have not eat red meet or freash fruit yet,and very small amout of bread. I just feel like it is ay to much. But they say ea till your full!!!! Well what if I can eat 7oz.. I am still hungrey aftr 4. I just want to know if anyone is going through this also and did they loose weight, I have lost 32 proud lbs!!!(YAH FOR ME)Started out at 240lbs. Oh ya I have been starting my day at 6:45 am and ending it at 8pm (OWN A DAYCARE) I have not time to work out...    — Amy M. (posted on November 7, 2003)


November 7, 2003
I'm going to tell you what my doctor told me when I told him the same thing. "Just because you can eat that much doesn't mean you should be". The surgery is a tool, you are responsible for making an adjustment in an effort to help it out. Most of the time you will fill full, but in some patients he said it takes a while for that feeling to kick in. He also went on to tell me that he specific told me how many ounces I was suppose to be eating per meal and why would I be going over that? I got the point and started following his protocol. At three months my tummy was full after eating just a very little. By modifying my behavor, I feel I've now started working my tool the correct way. It has been 8 months since my surgery and I'm down over 102 pounds. Like you I started out a lightweight at about 250, and feel great today. Good Luck.
   — D L.

November 7, 2003
Wow, I suspect if I tried, I could have included just a few more words spelled incorrectly. Sorry for the error filled post.
   — D L.

November 7, 2003
Hi Amy, first of all that is terrific u are getting your water and protein in. You know being 5 and half weeks post myse;f, i just feel that the ammount u are getting in is alot...have u talked to your doctor about this. The solid foods u are eating are not good...unless your sureon says its ok but mine want s me on pureed foods till the 8 weeks...its helps your stomach heal proporly...and if later on in the road u want a browniw their are some awesome low fat versions...the first part of our surgery is very important...as for exersising if u are working in a day care u r getting tons of exersising...anyways keep care...u never did mention type of surgery u had...me open rny
   — sweetdarling_ab

November 7, 2003
I think it is great that you are getting all your water and protein in. I don't have any answers as to why you are able to eat more. have you considered just measuring out three or four ounces and stopping whether you are full or not? This is what a lot of post ops do. it takes a few minutes for your brain to tell your stomach that you are full. i believe if you will use your tool wisely you will lose weight. that being said, Good Luck!!!!
   — Delores S.

November 7, 2003
I had surgery on August 15th and I am sometimes amazed at the amount of food I can eat! A lot depends on the density of the food. Chili, almost a cup and this chicken dish I make in a crockpot that is very saucy and soft, also a cup. Steak, even cooked soft, not so much. And it varies from day to day. When you eat the 7 ozs - do you feel like you are too full? Are you losing weight? Are you afraid that if you can eat that now you'll be able to eat 16 ozs at a time in a few months? I've been going to a support group for some time now, and we are all over the spectrum in the amount of foods we eat, and if we should or could "try" sugary items. I've been losing steadily and I track my intake of calories and protein on Fitday.com. I go between 800-1200 cal. per day. I know some would think that is too much, but my surgeon, nutritionist and myself are happy with my progress. Good luck to you!
   — JoSyrNY

November 7, 2003
First, 32 pounds is a great loss, especially for a lightweight. However, dumping is not caused by eating too fast, it's a reaction to what you eat, not how you eat it (unless you are dragging it out over a long long time). Like a previous poster stated, just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Some people simply don't dump, I'm not sure I do, but I probably haven't ate enough sugar at one time to truly test it. I would suspect that the things you are eating 7oz of are things that go through the pouch rather quickly like soups, sauces, pasta, things that turn almost to liquid after a good chewing. At 6 weeks you should be able to try some lean meat. Weigh out about 3oz, chew well and add a little gravy or something to make it moist. I would be surprised if you could comfortably eat all of that in a span of 15 minutes or so. I know many say that we should eat our meals very slowly, but on my plan, I'm supposed to have 6 small meals a day. If I spent 30-45 minutes on a meal, I'd have less than 2 hours between ending one meal and starting another so I limit my meals to about 15-20 minutes maximum. There's also the cottage cheese test. Use a measuring cup and get about 3-4oz of cottage cheese and see how much of that you can comfortably eat. Good Luck.
   — Carolyn M.

November 7, 2003
I don't think you need hate mail here either... I have found I can eat quite a bit too sometimes. Even earlier out (I am over a year now)... but like last night I ate 2 bowls of soup. I was shocked. I don't know if it's because it was soup, but sometimes I'll eat a 7oz or 9oz lean cusine (or whatever brand microwave dinner) and eat the whole thing and maybe a yogurt or whatever... people just look at me amazed and say you can finish all of that? I can eat a plate of dinner and people are like you can eat that? Well yes I can eat a breast filet, green beans and the potatoes... not a huge out of line portion either but people think I should still only eat half a tub of yogurt and be full... I think as long as you make healthy choices and use your tool your good to go. How about drinking before/with/after meals? That does have some impact I have found...
   — MF

November 7, 2003
Hurray for you!! I think that is WONDERFUL you can get in that much water and protein. I am 8 weeks post-op, lost 60lbs and have been terrrible sick the whole time. I can barely get in 8 oz of fluid a day and no protein yet. So, I think everyone is different. Sure there are guidelines to go by for safety but if you are losing and can eat more power to you. Hope you have great success.
   — Vanessa H.

November 7, 2003
Amy, how long are you taking to eat your 7 oz? By now, you should be taking less time to eat, and 15 minutes or so should be it. Whether you have eaten the entire 7 oz or not, stop. As the others have said, consistency counts, and you will always be able to eat more of certain foods depending on the consistency. Also, ensure that you are not drinking with or right after your meals. Doing so will wash food from the pouch and ensure that you get hungry quicker, the goal of course being to leave food in the pouch for as long as possible to retain that full feeling. And although you don't want to hear it, you must make time for exercise. Right now, at 6 weeks its not so important, but the further out you get, the more essential exercise will become to get the rest of the weight off and most importantly maintain the loss as the further out you get the more you will eat. I'm sure you are not doing day care on the weekends, and even if you end at 8 pm, then that is when you should take a 1/2 hour to exercise a few times a week.
   — Cindy R.

November 7, 2003
It sounds to me like you need to eat some more dense food. Surprisingly, Bread doesn't fill me up much at all, so I can eat more of it. But things like Meat, I can't much at all.
   — thekatinthehat

November 7, 2003
I dont know how big he made your pouch; but I would guess you had an RNY. Just to be 'safe' - I would have your surgeon order you an UPPER GI test. This test will see if your pouch is functioning. It is rare, BUT does happen in about 1% of RNY is that your stoma (the opening where you food leaves your pouch) does not shrink after surgery. When this happens, your pouch does not function, you do not have the 'normal' RNY food limitations. What happens, is when you eat your food goes from your espogus directly into your intestines.. which starts to act as your stomach. If you had an RNY this could be your problem; since when it happens is noticable right away. If the test shows you to have 'this problem' YOU will be forced to 'diet' since you will not have your pouch to help 'control' you intake. This is just a suggestion, it might not be your problem. BUT what MOST people who are having the RNY DO NOT LEARN pre op is that you can have this problem. Most people are aware of stricture - the tightening of the stoma that enables people to eat/drink and they have to go in to have it 'opened' up; WHAT surgeons dont tell you, is that for a few the stoma doesnt shrink at all (normal surgery it shrinks some after surgery - not enough to close up (stricture). But if it doesnt shrink; then the opening is too big and basically renderes the pouch usless. Whenthis happens most people are in the dark... cause they dont know it could happen.. Since everyone on here had WLS to help them 'physically' since they could not mentally/physically do it on their own. When you have WLS the 'tool' kicks in and helps you.. but if your tool is 'malfunctioning' you will have to take steps. Also, just because the pouch is non-functional does NOT mean the rest of your RNY is NOT working. The malabsorpsion part is still working.. and you can/will loose weight. BUT volume intake is another story.
   — star .

November 7, 2003
I was told by my surgeon That durning our weight lossing phaze we should be having 90-120 grams of protein a day. Then it drops to 60 grams once the weight loss is done. Guess everyone's surgeon says something different though.
   — Danmark




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