Question:
What does everyone think?

Hello, AMOS friends. Tomorrow, I will be 8 months out from my lap RNY and I have done well with no complications (thank God). I have not been on a steady exercise program since my surgery, with the exception of one month at Curves and a few workouts here and there. My husband and I just joined our local YMCA, though, and I am now committed to working out and getting the rest of this weight off. I have lost 120 pounds to date and I have 44 more to lose to get to goal. I want to share my plans with you guys and hopefully get some input about what you think about it. Please let me know. Feel free to email me if you would like to talk in more detail. The plan: AM Workout - Seven days per week - Step Aerobic Workout Tape - 45 minutes; PM Workout - Six days per week - MWF - Eliptical Trainier - 45 minutes - TTS - Weight Training - 45 minutes. I am planning on sticking to a calorie range of 800-1200 per day and I want to get in 80 grams of protein and 112 oz. of water. How does all of this sound? I would really like to get to goal by my one year anniversary, but I don't know if it is realistic to expect to lose 44 more pounds in 4 months. Your responses are greatly appreciated! Hugs, Kristy (lap RNY 9/18/03 - 332/212/168)    — kristynush (posted on May 17, 2004)


May 17, 2004
Hi, Kristy. Well, here's my opinion, for what it's worth: the single most important thing about a workout regimine is that it is sustainable. I can tell you from personal experience that you are most likely setting yourself up for failure with such a heavy schedule. I've just started working as a Certified Personal Trainer in my local gym and have worked out there 3-4 days a week for over a year. I see so many people start out like you plan to, only to find that they just can't stick with it. Things interfere, family happens, and you don't have enough rest planned into your workout for your body to recover properly. What I suggest for my clients just starting out after a long period of not exercising is 30 minutes heart-pumping cardio (when you are just starting out, that can be as simple as a brisk walk on the treadmill) and 30-45 minutes weight training, cardio circuit style to burn more calories. This should be done 3-4 times a week. As you get more fit and find things you like to do, add them in. On days when I'm not in the gym, I play racquetball with my husband, swim, or ride my bike with my 30 lb son in a carrier on the back...now that's a workout! :) Anyway, you will do what you feel is best and you may be very successful at it, but please think hard about starting out a little easier on yourself. In addition, you will really have some muscle fatigue issues at that calorie range with the workout you have planned. So, whatever you choose, best of luck to you! :)
   — Rachael B.

May 17, 2004
I'd have to agree with the last poster. Begin with a plan that is sustainable. I've been working with a trainer and have been told from the beginning that you should never do weight training more than every other day. Your muscles need the time to heal in between workouts. I so admire your enthusiasm and committment, but would love to see you start slower. Cardio 3-4 times a week for 1/2 hour (try walking, eliptical, bike, etc.) and weight training twice a week. Give yourself some time to make this schedule a habit. It takes time and perserverance. THEN you can increase time, intensity a little at a time. I've been training to walk a marathon on May 30th and have been advised not to increase running (vs. walking) more than 10% a week. Similarly, I've increased my mileage by two miles every other week until I've been able to do 21 miles so far. Slow and steady is the key to building a program you'll be able to live with. Good luck to you!
   — Kimberly C.

May 17, 2004
I want to commend you on your inspiration toward exercising, but don't go over board and do too much to start with, or you'll burn yourself out!!! good luck , keep us posted okay??
   — bikerchic

May 17, 2004
Kristy, I think it is awesome that you want to be so active and committed to your plan. I also tried to whip myself back into shape after the birth of my son (9yrs ago), I decided on swimming, I started with a few laps and every couple of days added a few more. Within a week or so I was up to 15 laps (in an olympic size pool). This was way too much, way too soon, I pulled every muscle on my left side. Even my muscles that connect my ribs to my chest, I woke up and thought I was having a heart attack because of all of the left side arm and chest pain, it even hurt to breath. Well it took me weeks to recover, and the doc told me that It was great to get into shape but to pace myself and increase slowly, this way my body can recover after each workout and I will be more likely able to stick to the program. As it turned out, I couldn't get back into the routine after I healed and I ended up gaining 140lbs over the next 9yrs. Until surgery. Now I am slowly getting into a workout program, I learned my lesson. Give yourself a break and realize that you are building new habits that are going to last you the rest of your life. Good luck!! Lisa lap/rny 10-23-03 339/217/??? -122lbs
   — Lisa H.

May 17, 2004
Do start with something that you can stick to. It only winds up being failure and disappointment if you can't live up to an overly stringent schedule. That sounds like a lot of exercise to start with for someone who was a sporatic at best exerciser in the past. Just my opinion though. I applaud your motivation and desire. If you are able to stick to this plan please let mew know HOW you manage to do it! (because I need to get more disciplined too)
   — LMCLILLY

May 17, 2004
I think the other posters have given you great responses to the effect that a workout routine like this is probably not sustainable or best in terms of letting the body rest a bit between workouts. But what struck me most about your question was the desire to get to goal by your one-year anniversary. Question: Why? Very few people who have 160 pounds to lose manage to lose all of it in 12 months.<P>Exercise is a great thing and weight loss is a great thing. But overdoing both in honor reaching a certain weight by a certain day is losing perspective on what this surgery is for, which is giving us tools to *sustain* a good eating and exercise habits. Which is much easier said than done or planned, for that matter. My concern about this plan is that it shouts "DIET!" to me. If that short-term thinking didn't work before, it will not work now even if your methods are a bit different than before. For those reasons, I would actively recommend against a plan like this one. You risk getting too focused on the scale at a time when you need to begin thinking about what will work for maintenance down the road, and this plan won't be preparing you for that at all. Gradual, strong, transitional steps is what you want to go for at this time, not land-speed-record weight loss that could be followed by a whole host of problems later. JMHO.
   — Suzy C.

May 18, 2004
As with most of the other posters, I agree that the plan you have devised for yourself is entirely too much. The most important response I want to echo is that attempting a plan such as the one you have devised is setting yourself up for failure. Often times as morbidly obese people we are incredibly motivated and enthusiastic on day one of a diet and by day 5 we're frustrated, grouchy and hopeless. This is generally because we've made our diet too restrictive and not allowed ourselves any normal pleasures. I advise my WLS patients to make an inner vow prior to surgery. I stress that they make it a reasonable vow. For example "I will never eat anything sweet again" is an unreasonable vow. "I will completely give up sugared beverages" is a reasonable vow. 45 minutes of brisk walking or cardio exercise 5 days a week is a reasonable inner vow and sufficient for any normal adult. An hour and a half of your combined exercises seems that it would quickly become a burden rather than a motivating, energizing work out. I also think 1200 calories a day is fine but 800 calories a day is entirely too low. It will cause your body to believe that it's starving and may result in even slower weight loss. Your protein and water goals are right on the money. Your enthusiasm is wonderful and will probably motivate others to get back on track. I'd just hate to see you burn out too quickly when in fact, if you'll take it down a notch or two you can keep shining forever. Also, don't put restrictions of losing 44 pounds in 4 months on yourself. It's unlikely that you'll lose that much. It will also prevent you from celebrating a reasonable loss of say 15 to 20 pounds because you'll be sad that you didn't lose 44 pounds. You're on the right track - just in overachievers mode and you can fix that. Best wishes to you!
   — ronascott

May 18, 2004
I'm going to have to agree with the others here. Start small and work your way up. Start out taking an aerobics, y-flex or yoga class two or three days a week. If you are feel like doind more, then go use the eliptical one day. Don't make yourself. Set the goal as the two or three classes per week. After a couple of weeks, those will be second nature. Then add something else. Do that a couple of weeks....again, second nature. Work up to it. <br><br>I went two years post-op without exercising and a lifetime prior without. If I would have started out like what you have proposed, I would have become frustrated and given up after a week. You are making life changes now, changes that you want to keep a lifetime. You have that lifetime to get to where you want to be, you don't have to take it on all at once.<br><br>Most people do not hit goal by the one year mark. It's nice, but rare. Don't make that your goal. This should be a positive experience, not a dissapointing one. /hugs Rebecca Perkins 10/03/01
   — RebeccaP

May 18, 2004
Overachievers Unite!! But I have to agree with everyone else: your enthusiasm is admirable but you are setting yourself up for problems. I did the same thing and after a week, I was exhausted, in pain and really cranky. Start slow-- do one workout a day, no more than an hour at a time, say a half-hour of cardio and a half-hour of weights. Maybe if you take a walk on your lunch hour, you can do a yoga class or weight training in the evening. If you miss a few weekdays, take a long bike-ride on the weekends or on your days off. This is not a race and you are not expected to be able to run a marathon right away. You really do not need to spend hours exercising-- consistency is much better than quantity. Try to build exercise into your day-- if you make it a habit, it will be difficult to get obsessive about it. I think your water and protein intake plans are great.
   — lizinPA

May 18, 2004
I think your plan for eating and exercise is wonderful BUT bet it'll take more like 5 mos. to lose 44#. I recently dropped 12# in 6 weeks working out 6 days a week including the following: Weight training 2 days a week for 1 hr + 45 min cardio of either rowing or doing a 10-15 degree incline on treadmill @ 3.5 mph. Talk about intense cardio! Then 4 days a week I do 90 min of cardio-45 min rowing AND 45 min treadmill as I described above. I have lost 3" from my waist, 1 1/2" from my hips and 1" off each thigh, taking only Sundays off to rest. I am eating 5 oz lean protein 3 x a day w/ salad and non-starchy veggies and only ONE fruit a day, along with about 4 liters of water. It's very intense training. I would like to drop another 10# and think it'll take about 4-5 weeks - realistically. Here's why~~~ I'm building muscle and getting leaner, BUT muscle weighs more than fat. My % body fat has dropped by 5.5%. Each 1% = 2.5# of fat per my trainer. Keep up the good work. I love weight training and working out. Never felt better :-) My body is scupletd and I an very strong but NOT bulky. Diane N WeightlossSurgery.ws
   — DianeN




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