Question:
Late Dumping
I have finally figured out that I have late dumping. I am 6 years out and have only dumped 3 times (the last of which was this morning). Each time it has been on a certain type of ice cream. (let me say here that I don't dump on ANYTHING else) Breyers banana split ice cream Dippin Dots ice cream Ice cream cake from Baskin Robbins It doesn't happen right away, it is always a few hours later. In fact, I ate a slice of the ice cream cake last night at about 7:30 pm and then got sick this morning when I got up at 6am. Like I said, this has only happened to me 3 times in 6 years. Does anyone know what the common ingredient of these ice creams might be? I would like to know exactly what it is that does it to me. It has to be something unusual because I can eat other types of ice cream and have no problem. Any one have any ideas or do you know where I can look to find out the common ingredient? Thanks for your help! — Patty.W (posted on August 14, 2008)
August 14, 2008
I am 5 years out and I try not to eat ice cream, milk or any cream based
soups because of that fact. I can't say that I never do, but boy do I pay
for it when I do eat them.
— Carlyn M.
August 14, 2008
They may have an ingredients list on their websites. Good luck finding out.
— jenks621
August 14, 2008
Stop eating ice cream.
Sugar and Fat.
— nancycarle
August 14, 2008
Nancy, it is not all ice cream. I can eat sugar and fat. I eat cakes,
doughnuts, ice cream, all kinds of sweet fatty stuff. It is only those 3
types. I have dumped 3 times in 6 years and only on those 3 ice creams.
It is not sugar and fat, it is something else.
— Patty.W
August 14, 2008
Could it be a chemical additive that they have in common? Could it be that
they are made with real cream and you are lactose intolerant?
— waterlover
August 14, 2008
Instead of taking the time to research what is making you sick, stop eating
what is making you sick and leave it at that. The answer is sugar and fat,
exactly what you are not supposed to be eating. I find it very disturbing
to read what people can "get away" with eating and finding ways
to eat around their tools.
Frustrating.
Dawn
— DawnVic
August 14, 2008
Dawn, EXCUSE ME????? Did you read the part where I said I was 6 years out
from surgery and had only dumped 3 times??!?!?!?! Sugar and fat are not
it, dingbat....if that were the case I would dump all the time. I DO NOT.
DO presume to tell me what to eat. I have been VERY successful with my
surgery and consider myself lucky to have only dumped 3 TIMES IN 6 YEARS.
There is something else that is common to these 3 types of ice cream that
make me dump. Considering I have only tried these 3-three times, makes me
pretty damn smart to know not to do it again. I eat ice cream all the time
and do not dump. Do you get it now that there is something else making me
dump?!?!? Or do I need to repeat it again. I am not stupid. You on the
other hand, who knows?
— Patty.W
August 14, 2008
hi,i am also 6yrs out and i eat whatever i want.i just limit myself.and yes
i do eat ice cream but sf.i have dumped since day 1 and i still dump
periodicly.not just on 1 certain thing.whatever my tummy decides that it
doesnt want at the time,it throws it away.lol
— deb44m
August 14, 2008
— Jen R.
August 14, 2008
My understanding of dumping (from various professionals) is that it is an
immediate reaction that can include multiple symptoms, most notably cold
sweats or chills, sudden diarreha, lightheadedness that may produce nausea,
and vomiting if the nausea is really bad. I do not think your delayed
reaction sounds like dumping, although it is obviously a reaction of some
kind. If it is any consdolation, the closest I have come to dumping was
one time when my lunch ended up being a pumpkin nut square and one time
when I indulged in a second sliver of Carvale Ice cream cake. Both these
things are very rich with cream, butter and sugar. I don't blame you for
being curious of what to particulary avoid.
— canim150
August 14, 2008
I will say this one more time. I do not dump on sugars and fat....that is
not the answer...if it was I wouldn't be able to eat cake, brownies,
doughnuts, cookies, ice cream, or all of the dairy products I eat. I have
not regained any weight, I eat in moderation. These dumping episodes have
been about 2 years apart, each time, and NO, I do not go back and eat what
made me sick again. My response to Dawn WAS called for as I know what I am
doing. I know what NORMALLY causes dumping, but have never had that
problem. I posted my original question to find out if anyone knew what
might be a common ingredients to these 3 types. I have never told newbies
to eat whatever they wanted...if any of you were familiar with my postings
you would know that I post an informational list for new folks on the main
board all the time. It is also on my profile. SORRY, BUT FOR ME, THE
ANSWER IS NOT SUGARS AND FATS. For those of you condemning me for what I
eat...come back to me at 6 years out and let me know how you are
doing....we'll compare notes. Late dumping can occur anywhere from 1-3
hours AFTER eating the food item. I have done research on that and that is
what happens to me. So thanks to those of you offering answers and no
thanks to those of you who THINK you know better than me about what I can
and can't eat....like I said come back to me at 6 years out and we'll
compare notes. DEBRA, I remember you from way back. You have had a rough
road, I wish it had been better for you. I have had a pretty easy ride as
far as my WLS goes. I have been lucky, no surgery-related problems. I
wish you the best.
— Patty.W
August 15, 2008
Ok, I just have to say this. Good for you that you can get around your
tool by eating all the "JUNK" you are eating. If it works for
you then good. But the "verbal attacks" are completely
unnecessary. You asked a question and it was answered. You didn't like
the answer. Ok, so be it. Stop asking people who obviously can't answer
your question the way you want it answered and go to the professionals.
ASK YOUR SURGEON OR A BARIATRIC PROFESSIONAL!!! Why haven't you done
that??? Are you afraid they will give you the same answer that Dawn gave
you??? Here is the answer cut and dry....certain foods just will not agree
with you. End of story. Just don't eat them when you find out what they
are. Your body just doesn't like them.
— Senji
August 15, 2008
Tonya: "Ok, I just have to say this. Good for you that you can get
around your tool by eating all the "JUNK" you are eating. If it
works for you then good. But the "verbal attacks" are completely
unnecessary. You asked a question and it was answered. You didn't like the
answer. Ok, so be it. Stop asking people who obviously can't answer your
question the way you want it answered and go to the professionals. ASK YOUR
SURGEON OR A BARIATRIC PROFESSIONAL!!! Why haven't you done that??? Are you
afraid they will give you the same answer that Dawn gave you??? Here is the
answer cut and dry....certain foods just will not agree with you. End of
story. Just don't eat them when you find out what they are. Your body just
doesn't like them."
Tonya, I am not bragging that I can eat "JUNK" food. Why are
some of you insisting that I am trying to eat around my tool? A few of you
don't understand what I am saying. You said "certain foods just will
not agree with you." Which food would that be???? It's not ice
cream. It is something in those 3 types that do it and if I could find out
what that was, then I will certainly avoid it. Since I don't know, how can
I avoid it? I do not eat "JUNK" all the time. I have never been
a "sweets" eater but do have some once in a while. My surgery
has worked great for me. I lost to goal and have maintained. Too many of
you are upset because I stated that I can eat all kinds of food with no
problem. Does that mean I do it to excess??? NO, obviously. I asked a
question about INGREDIENTS. One person mentioned additives and that is
most likely the answer. I have gone to the websites and have 2 ingredient
lists so far, and am still trying to get the third. SO...the
"attacks" on me were uncalled for and when that happens I defend.
I was accused of doing something that I am not doing, but thanks, let me
know how YOU are doing a few years from now.
— Patty.W
August 15, 2008
Patty, I know exactly what you are saying! I am 3 years post op and I do
not dump either. I eat "bad" things too and things that I am not
supposed to eat, but hey I know how to eat in "Moderation". That
is the key! I do know my limits! Also I feel people should not be
"bashing" others. We all make mistakes! We are not
"Perfect" and should not bash others for what they eat. I have
lost 130 pounds and have only gained 10 pounds back since surgery and I
have maintained this for awhile. i do not intend on gaining any weight back
soon or ever fot that matter. I have come to far with this surgery. The
thing with weight loss is "Moderation" like I have said before.
As far your dumping problem, hmmm dont know what to tell yah but I am
certainly not going to "bash" you for what you eat. I would like
to congradulate you on a job well done. This is not an easy surgery or
lifestyle. I have to agree on that. I was ready for this surgery when I
had it. I was dying. I weighed like 309 pounds on a 5'3 small frame. For
anyone else that thinks that they are perfect regarding on what to eat, do
not tell me that you do not sneak certain things in sometimes, I will tell
you that you are a liar! It may not be sweet, but maybe fried or some other
regard. We have all did it, including me! No, I am not perfect, but I am
not going to lie about it! I am very happy with where I am at in my life,
because I could have been dead!
— trishhooper
August 15, 2008
Dawn, that was incredibly uncalled for. First of all, if she "just
stops eating what bothers her" without finding out WHAT IN IT bothers
her, she is likely to accidentally eat something ELSE with that same
ingredient and get sick AGAIN. So if she does a little research and finds
out which item is the problem, she can avoid it in ALL foods, not just the
ones she has stumbled upon so far.
She was not bragging about what she can get away with, or advising anyone
to "eat around their tool". She was trying to provide enough
information so that nobody would just try to tell her that "sugar and
fat" were the causes for her dumping. If you take that personally
because you dump more easily than she does, then that's your problem, and
not hers.
Next time you want to be nasty, go to the R&R board. This is NOT the
place for it, and this is NOT the right post to address in such a manner.
You owe the OP an apology.
— FastFingers ~*~
August 15, 2008
Hi Patty,
Congrats on your progress so far. I don't know about the Breyers cause I
have never tried it, but I have tried the Dippin Dots and have not dumped
on it. I did have a serious dump on the Baskins Robbins Ice Cream Cake one
time after just having two teaspoons of it on my birthday. Sorry I could't
be of better help but good luck finding out what is causing your dumping.
— AnitaD
August 15, 2008
I have not yet had my surgery and I find it disturbing and scary that
afterwards I may still be able to eat those things that are bad for me and
caused me to be in the shape I'm in now. If I had the will power to stay
away from all this, I wouldn't need to have this serious surgery. I hope
and pray that I will get sick everytime I eat sugary and fatty foods
because my life truly depends on it. By the way, Dawn very OFTEN gives
very informative and helpful facts and I don't believe that she was trying
to be offensive. Let's all stay calm and encourage each other on our w/l
journeys. God bless you all....
— DebbeeS
August 15, 2008
Anyone can dump on anything at any time. Dehydration appears to make
dumping more likely at least for me. A newbie before or right after surgery
looks at things differently than someone years out. Temptation is ALWAYS
there:( I am 7 years out, gained some back but am way healtier and happier
than pre op. If it werent for chocolate I would be skinny.
— bob-haller
August 15, 2008
Patty,
I think if you have only dumped three times in six years that is terrific.
The only thing I can think of is maybe you may be having a reaction to the
dairy part of what is in that particular ice cream. Maybe they use some
type of cream that your body doesn't like and the other ice cream that you
can eat don't. I'd be interested in finding out myself.
— Tania_B.
August 15, 2008
Wow. What a can of worms this opened! One thing to think about is that
how much you eat of a particular substance can be as important as the
substance itself. Eating a small amount of a certain food may not make you
sick, but when you eat a larger amount it does. Sugar free candy (and
sugar alcohols) do this to me... I can eat a couple of pieces, but one too
many and I've got severe cramps and diarrhea. I am also wonder if perhaps
this was a fluke... you could have gotten sick for reasons entirely
unrelated to the ice cream. If you really want to know, you can eat the
ice cream again to see if you have the same symptoms, but I'm not sure I'd
want to know that bad! :) Just some stuff to think about. I hope that
you will post and let us know what you find out.
Best wishes.
— mrsidknee
August 17, 2008
In the practice where I had my surgery, they have on staff a nutritionist
that has been so helpful. I would imagine you could find a nutritionist to
discuss this with ... the common ingrediant theory, I mean. This person
could probably provide some good information.
— LuvNSummer
Click Here to Return