Question:
HAD RNY AND SNEEK FOOD NOT INTENTIALLY BUT IT'S THERE AND NO PAINS I CHEW IT GOOD
i'am one week out of surgery and i'am supposed to be on liquids but i have snuck some solid food like noodle,spagetti,sweet tea etc. but only small portions and i chewed it really mushy a lot of people say they have this and that and nothing happened to me (thank god) but when i take a sip to fast i have the worst stomach pain why is that. also i havent been to the bathroom since i left the hospital i've taken milk of magnesium but nothing please help i'am confused that this surgery isn't going to work for me i had the RNY!!! — shorty04 (posted on December 11, 2007)
December 11, 2007
Now, I know this is going to sound like a lecture and well, maybe it
should... but you asked, so here's my take on your questions/comments. Did
you attend classes before having surgery or did they just sign you up and
do it? This surgery is merely a tool, just as a step stool would help you
reach a higher shelf. The surgery is not meant to "work for
you", it's a tool to help you work for yourself in changing your
habits and relearning how to eat the right things in the correct amounts.
If you are sneaking stuff you are only hurting yourself so it's up to you
to do what is right. "Noodles, spagetti, and sweet tea" are all
of the foodlists for a reason. They are full of refinded flour and carbs
you just don't need. You do need to be getting the appropriate amounts of
protein and fluids in not to mention any supplements your
doctor/nutritionist may have outlined for you. Believe me, I know how
difficult it is to get approval for this surgery, you've had the surgery,
if you mess it up than it was all for naught. Insurance is not going to
want to help you again for something that you are obvioulsy not going to
follow-thru on in the correct manner. Everyone on OH is here as support,
instead of reaching for a bite of something that you shouldn't have, sign
on and read the message boards or email a few folks who are coming up or
just had their surgery. Let them know how great it's going to be on the
other side, the losers side. You can do this. The hard part was the
surgery and everything that led up to it.... Make it happen for yourself,
work-it, you deserve it and only you can see it through. I do sincerely
wish you the best, Leslie
— LuvNSummer
December 11, 2007
please be very careful, do not advance your diet too quickly, remember
there are only a few staples and all holding everything together, give
yourself time to heal properly, it is tempting , but do not risk doing
yourself major harm, it's not worth it. Brian
— johndough
December 11, 2007
just like the first post said- i know it is hard, but you need to work
harder and make better choices. at this point you are probably experiencing
the "head hunger" you hear everyone talk about and not true
hunger, so as hard as it is.. try to ignore that and do something else to
occupy your mind. you have just had major surgery and your body needs time
to heal. your new stomach is very sensitive and even though you may not
feel pain or whatever you may be doing damage to the staple line- that is
the purpose of the liquid diet and that is why they advance you so slow
after surgery. as far as your bowel movements- you really need to go soon-
you may need to take some more milk of mag or maybe some magnesium citrate.
are you taking stool softners? the only problem i have had since my surgery
is constipation: i take 2 stool softners in the morning and 2 at night and
sometimes i still have to take a laxative- i use that old fashion chocolate
looking stuff and it does the job. if you do not go soon you need to call
your doctor and let him/her know. i am a little over 2 months postop and
have lost 38 lbs and it is wonderful!! i did exactly what the doctor told
me to do, but it was hard at times and there are still times i have to
fight my "head hunger". even now if i drink things to fast or
take a big sip i feel uncomfortable, but it will get better. you will do
fine and i wish you the best. email me anytime if you just need a little
extra support. good luck, hope this helps..Holly
— RNlvnCARSON
December 11, 2007
If you are sneaking food, you are intentionally acting in a way which is
contrary to what you know you need to do.
Although none of us wake up from surgery as if magically cured of our old
destructive eating behaviors, most of us have more than a week before we
start cheating. Because this is such a critical time in the healing of
your pouch, and because you acknowledge sneaking these foods, you might
want to consider talking to a professional to get a better handle on how
you can modify your behavior and make the surgery "work for
you"-- which is really all about changing behaviors and adopting a new
relationship with food.
— SteveColarossi
December 11, 2007
hey there, everyone is right about what they've said. I am two months out
and have lost 50lbs. during the first week, I stuck to what the dr. said.
I was too scared to try anything else. I still am. After the first few
weeks, I did try fries and chips, but you will soon realize that your body
is different from day to day. So if one day you try sweet tea and it goes
down ok, the next week it may not be. We also need to remember that we did
this to be healthier and lose the weight that has held us captive forever.
Food is very powerful, but this new tool gives us the power back. As far
as drinking the water too fast, I know what you mean. In the beginning, it
did hurt to drink fast like that, but that is because your stomach is so
small that it can't handle big fast gulps just yet. One big gulp is like a
sonic boom in your stomach and it goes down hard. The first few weeks, I
took a gulp in my mouth and only swallowed half at a time and did that
every few minutes till I felt satisfied. Now I can gulp about three times
in a row and feel fine. You need to give your body time to heal and follow
the diet the Dr. gave you. Some people take up to six months to have a
salad or burger. My Dr. cleared me for all that at 1and 1/2 months
out......doesn't mean I tried it right away. Your body is more powerful
than the food right now, but you need to take charge the right way. the
other foods will come later, but for now try to really stick to what the
dr. says. The surgery is going to work for you.... I thought the same
thing and now 50lbs later in 2 months, the answer is that it works weather
you want it to or not. take care.
— Big-Dzz
December 11, 2007
Call your surgeon about the constipation which is often caused by
anthestics. They will get you something to clean you out good:) As to
cheating many do that although they shouldnt. If your going to cheat cheat
RESPONSIBLY cut into tiny pieces, soft food and chew to death. Awhile ago a
member here ate beef jerky, and nearly died his stomach ruptured. He was
hospilatized for a few months. I cheated on clear liquids with sugar free
fudgesciles. my surgeon said he could live with that. Please DONT risk your
life, for a few bites of food. So follow doctors orders and enjoy being on
the lighter side, how much have you lost?
— bob-haller
December 11, 2007
Hey "girl" thanks for writing. If you are supposed to be on
liquids, get on liquids and stay on them. You have to fight for what is
right, not for what you want. I know the struggle, and I DO NOT mean to be
critical, but I can't tell you how many men and women whine and complain
about just a bite here and just some stuff there, and wonder why surgery
does not work. Surgery is to help you "girl", not work. If you
don't work your tool, if you don't diet and exercise, then don't blame your
tool for not working. If you won't drink water and give up
"sweet" tea, don't blame your body for not changing. This is a
life change, and if you really want to be that sexy girl physically with a
great loss of weight, you will have to fight for every pound. Sipping too
much too fast at your stage can cause pain, that is very usual. Sip
slowly. I am almost 4 years out and I still don't guzzle. 4 swallows is
my max before pain sets in at my stage, in the beginning, it was always
sipping. You can chew all the food you want, but if you go against your
doctors advice, you are shooting yourself in the foot and other important
areas. Do what they say, exercise like a fiend, and drink water until you
can't, then drink some more. Do this faithfully for 18 months and girl,
you will be glad you did. It will change your life. Refuse, and accept
the consequences of doing it your own way. You are an adult, so you
choose, and you keep the consequences. Take care. Patricia P.
— Patricia P
December 12, 2007
I am a week post op, and I really do get why you struggle with the food
issue. It's weird for anyone, especially a person who has loved food their
whole life to be told to stop eating. I have made one discovery this past
week; while I have tried every diet and THOUGHT I didn't cheat...oh my
gosh, I cheated!! Now, I am too afraid to cheat. I want to...I still have
that whole psychological thing going, but I am also afraid of causing a
problem with my body, or getting something stuck. I will pray for your
strength. It is a battle. I really get it...I think a lot of us do! Try
this, if you are "hungry", tell yourself to wait until you drink
one more protein shake before you cheat. Chances are you will be ok, and
the "temptation" to chew something will pass. Lots of love and
hugs....
— Lisa S.
December 12, 2007
The diet restrictions immediately after surgery are for two reasons...
number one to give your stomach/intestines time to heal and number two to
jump start your weight loss.
The pain you feel from taking a sip too fast probably has to do with some
part of your stomach/pouch being irritated. If you are having severe
pain... not discomfort, please get in touch with your surgeon. I know that
we sometimes say "the worst pain" to describe discomfort but if
you are having pain, you need to get checked out.
Lastly, I would not worry about not going to the bathroom. Anesthetic,
pain medicine, and surgery all slow down the bowels. You will need some
extra time for things to wake back up fully. Also, you most likely did
some kind of bowel prep before surgery... that means your colon/intestines
were completely emptied. Since surgery, you've been on liquids. Even with
the food you've cheated on, you probably have not eaten enough to have
enough digested food/waste to form stool... you have to eat to poop. I'd
give it a couple more days, take more MOM if you want. If you are feeling
uncomfortable tho, then do call your surgeon.
Best wishes.
— mrsidknee
December 14, 2007
I know that last thing you want to hear is a lecture--- BUT... you have
done so much to your body to make it a tool to help you live a healthier
life... please don't sabatoge it--- you must change your mindset and don't
"sneak" food, especially this close from surgery. Listen to your
body, the pain is telling you you're either drinking too fast or eating too
much. I was on liquids only (the protein shakes are great and Isopur
protein water) for 2 months before I was supposed to even start solids,
that all depends on doctor's orders. I will be a year out of surgery on
December 27th and have lost 188 lbs! Even now I do not eat pasta or bread
or crackers. Sure I have the ocasional bite or two of sweets, but nothing
like before. You can do this!! Change your mind set please--- you could
also disrupt a staple line by eating too much too soon. Best wishes!! Also,
not sure what to do about the constipation, drink a lot of water!! The
surgery WILL work for you , but it's not going to do it on it's own, you
HAVE to use the tool correctly for it to work! Good luck and keep positive,
looking at the "Big picture" at all times!! :)
— airbear762000
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