Question:
Help! My hair is shedding really bad!

I'm now 3 months post-op and have upped my protein consumption to over 60gm a day. I've noticed my hair is really shedding bad now having to empty my hairbrush several times a week. My nails are okay, but my hair is really brittle. I take multivitamins twice daily. I take the Women's Multi-Vit. I don't tolerate the protein shakes at all. I've tried several different kinds their just to sweet tasting for me. I've starting adding protein bars which have from 10gm to 20gm a bar. I can only tolerate meat if it's say in a soup or ground up like taco meat. What can I do to get my hair to grow back again without using the special shampoos. I can't have anything that has minoxidil in it since I'm already on blood pressure meds and it really monkey's with my system. Thank you in advance.    — Deborah Joyner (posted on May 25, 2006)


May 25, 2006
Deborah: Here is an article I found about hair loss, which may give you some comfort. It's normal for most of us following surgery, and probably isn't a whole lot we can do about it. I honestly don't believe it is related to the lack of protein, but more because of the surgery, effects of anesthesia, etc. It's pretty typical for most of us to experience it between 3-6 months out. If you have it happen again later on in your journey, then I would say that it would be nutritionally-related at that point, but not so much so early on. Here is the article: Telogen effluvium is the name for temporary hair loss that follows some shock to the system. Cause In a normal healthy person's scalp about 85% of the hair follicles are actively growing hair and 15% are resting. A hair follicle usually grows hair for 4 years then rests for 4 months. The old hair then falls out and a new hair begins to grow. When the hair rests it changes into a club hair. When the new hair starts it forms under the resting club hair and pushes it out. Thus, it is normal to lose up to about 100 hairs a day on one's comb, brush, in the basin or on the pillow, as a result of the normal scalp hair cycle. If there is some shock to the system, as many as 70% of the scalp hairs can be precipitated into a resting state, thus reversing the usual ratio. Typical precipitants include: Illness Operation Accident Childbirth Nervous shock Weight loss or unusual diet Discontinuing the contraceptive pill Overseas travel resulting in jetlag. The resting scalp hairs, now in the form of club hairs, remain firmly attached to the hair follicles at first. It is only about 2 months after the shock that the new hairs coming up through the scalp push out the "dead" club hairs and increased hair fall is noticed. Thus, paradoxically, with this type of hair loss, hair fall is a sign of hair regrowth. As the new hair first comes up through the scalp and pushes out the dead hair a fine fringe of new hair is often evident along the forehead hairline. At first the fall of club hairs is profuse and a general thinning of the scalp hair may become evident but after several months a peak is reached and hair fall begins to lessen, gradually tapering back to normal over 6-9 months. As the hair fall tapers off the scalp thickens back up to normal, but recovery may be incomplete in some cases. Because nail and hair growth are under the same influences, an arrest in hair growth is often mirrored in the nails by a groove across them coinciding with the time of the shock to the system. The time of the shock can be estimated from the fact that a finger nail takes 5 months to grow from the posterior nail fold to the free edge. So if the groove in the nail is half way down the nail then the shock must have been 2 1/2 months ago. Treatment Telogen effluvium is self-correcting. It is really not influenced by any treatment that can be given. However, gentle handling of the hair, avoiding over-vigorous combing, brushing and any type of scalp massage are important. You should also ensure a nutritious diet, with plenty of protein, fruit and vegetables. The doctor may check your levels of iron, vitamin B12 and folic acid, as any deficiency in these can slow hair growth. Related information On DermNet: Hair loss Alopecia areata Other web sites: Telogen effluvium - from emedicine dermatology, the on-line textbook.
   — Carlita

May 25, 2006
I have never heard the above statement of hair stopping and then growing, not to say that it doesn't happen. I was advised by the doctor's and hair dressers that I would experience hair loss around three months out due to the drastic change in diet and limited amounts of protein that are consumed the first few weeks after surgery. Nothing I did stopped it until I started to go to a more normal diet. After about 4 months things with my hair returned to normal. It is a side effect but well worth it. Talk with your hair dresser and see if a new cut will change the look of things. It did for me. Don't sweat it and worry it is natural to have happen.
   — 1968 Loser

May 25, 2006
From a hairstylist view....It is very normal to loose the hair and it may keep falling out for about 3 months and stop. If you will let your hairstylist look at your scalp you will be amazed at the new hair that is coming in. Dont worry it will come back. Just get a cute cut to help you with the process and you will look and feel better. ANd you really do need to make sure you are eating enough protien and at least 18 fat grams a day.
   — Katie B.

May 25, 2006
below you will find the link to the protein products I use. I also add Aussie's 3 Minute Miracle Cure conditioner daily and this protein treatment twice daily, HOWEVER, do not do it by the instructions, wash your hair in a gentle shampoo like Johnson's baby then use the 3 min miracle by aussie, but leave it in 10 minutes, after that rinse, and towel dry your hair GENTLY, scrubbing your scalp causes hair loss! Then add the protein conditioner and leave in for 30 min to an hour, I do it on my days off when I am running around the house cleaning. If you need any further info, feel free to email me at [email protected] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C00VM0/104-0394291-3507965?n=3760911
   — vlaster

May 25, 2006
Deborah, I had the same problem, only worse than most people because of complications and having nothing but liquids and iv nutrition for 3 months following surgery, so I lost about 60% of my hair. Protein doesn't help. Although it's a normal thing to lose hair, I really panicked and went everywhere for help, my pcp panicked when he saw the extent of my hair loss and got me an almost immediate appoinment with a dermatogist (it normally takes 10-12 months to get in with her)and she had no suggestions so I finally stopped in at the health food store and was told about a WONDERFUL vitamin that works wonders. It's Nature's Plus, ULTRA HAIR PLUS, it's sustained release. If you can't take a big pill you can grind it and put it in something soft and eat it. Within 3 weeks I had tons of tiny new hairs coming in and my hair actually grew in thicker than it had ever been. I found mine at Nature's Outlet (a health food chain store) but I'm sure you could find it online. Good luck! It will grow back. Pam
   — Pam D.

May 25, 2006
The only thing that helped me was Biotin. It is a vitamin supplement that you can get at any drug store, grocery store, or Wal-Mart. Ofcourse there was nothing I could do to stop the initial hairloss, but it did help it grow back thick! I had beautiful EXTRA THICK hair (stylist would cringe when they saw me coming, and break combs in my hair trying to comb it, LOL), so I was pretty disappointed to be getting thin on top. Now my hair is not as thick as it was, but still allot thicker than allot of people's. I have had 2 plastic surgeries after the GB and my hair didn't seem to be phased at all ( I believe because I stayed on my Biotin faithfully).. And I have never been able to get all my protein in (I hate cheese, and I am not a big meat eater!!), so I honestly don't think diet has anything to do with it.... JUST TRY THE BIOTIN, it will take a few months to see results but if you stick with it, it will be well worth it. My husband had surgery 6 months ago and I make him take it regularly also!! GOOD LUCK
   — GAYLE CARMACK-LYONS

May 26, 2006
hair loss with WLS is very common. You loose hasome of your hair when you have a newborn baby and this is the same thing. Once I reach my goal weight, I stopped loosing any more hair and som,e of it grew back. Why? because I was taking my vitamins and eating/drinking my protein. In short I was following my Dr. instructions. I stopped loosing my hair, and some of it grew back, but it is not as thick as it was prior to the surgery. I hope I am able to help you, Dani
   — Dani96

May 26, 2006
I just got done reading the article that was posted, I've been in the cosmetology feild for 12 years and doing hair for 9. I can tell you that you lose on an everage of 175 hair per day, now after your body goes through something as major as surgery and the lack of proper nutrition you will lose hair. Also take into account the fact that you are on medication for your blodd pressure. Try using a womens multi vitamin and try using nixion shampoo and conditioner, it will help with the blood circulating to the folicles that aren't producing hair and will help your hair look fuller and feel a little bit thicker. Good luck!
   — Jenney

May 27, 2006
tyr an unflavored protien in you soups and other food add cheese to foods like soups and very thin sliced cold cut! unjury unflavored and any whey unflavored are good for this. compare ingridients in your vits to other bariatric vits you might not be getting enough of something in there. i would also add biotin to your plan of attack! best of luck! vicki g
   — vickig

May 29, 2006
Double that protein and get it from protein powder (whey). Go to GNC and get them to mix samples for you without milk.. If you REALLY can't find a protein flavor you like then get the unflavored stuff and put it in some oatmeal or cream of wheat.
   — SJP




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