Question:
I live on Motrin and Viox for joint pain can't imagine life without it!

I have terrible hip, shoulder, and knee pain and take either Motrin, Viox or Aleve daily in order to feel somewhat normal. What do post-ops take for this? Or is it really true that joint pain can go away with weight loss? Wouldn't that be wonderful!    — Diane S. (posted on October 15, 2003)


October 15, 2003
I lived on Vioxx prior to my surgery. I am 5 months out and have not taken Vioxx but 1 time (when I pulled my back). I take Tyloenol once in awhile if I really exercise hard. I am virtually pain free since losing the first 20 lbs. Don't worry. Talk to your surgery. Mine told me that I could take Vioxx. I just havn't needed it. yg
   — Yvonne G.

October 15, 2003
You can take cox 2 inhibitors. They just started me on Bextra it is a anti-inflamatory,for my arms. And yes joint pain as you lose greatly improves. mine did.Down 80 and counting!
   — Autumn

October 15, 2003
Yes, you can take Cox II inhibitors, but be aware they too can cause ulcers. 2 years post op I was on Vioxx for knee pain and developed an ulcer which led to 4 strictures and 5 scopes. I am now on Aciphex for my ulcer, but Vioxx really was very detrimental to me. All Cox II inhibitors carry similar risks. If you are going to take them you may want to speak to your doctor about being on Prevacid or a similar drug while on the Cox II. Just don't want anyone to have to go through what I went through.
   — Karen Renee

October 15, 2003
Hi, Denise: I am 8 weeks post op, and I take Vioxx for osteoarthritis in my back, knees, ankles and feet. I haven't taken my Vioxx for about a week, though, because since I've lost almost 40 pounds, my joints don't ache NEAR as much! I was scared about it also, because before surgery I was on Vioxx AND
   — Moysa B.

October 15, 2003
OOPS, hit a wrong key...Anyway, I was on Vioxx 50 mg AND Darvocet for the pain. I was really afraid that I'd be in total agony after surgery. Well, immediately after surgery, the liquid Lortab helped me feel NO pain what-so-ever! LOL! I'm hoping to not have to take the Vioxx much longer as I don't want any ulcers, but I am also on Prevacid because of excess acid and nausea. <p>So, to make a long story short (I know, too late!) your joint pain may very well go away after you lose weight. I still have about 80 pounds I want to lose, but I can't believe the difference already! Good luck!
   — Moysa B.

October 15, 2003
Get ready to throw that medication out !! I was taking medication for just about everything including joint pain. I am now 11 months post op (-152 lbs) and take my Flintstones vitamins and a baby aspirin each day ---That is all!!.. Best of luck.
   — GPoynor

October 15, 2003
I was on Celebrex for knee, hip, shoulder and back pain for the past 3 years. I am now 4 months post-op, down 47 lbs., and haven't taken a Celebrex since last month. I thought I'd be on it the rest of my life! I don't even take Tylenol... I am pain-free!!! Good luck to you!
   — ttilles

October 15, 2003
I was really concerned about this pre-op because I had been on Lodine for arthritis and joint pain for years. They advised me to begin walking pre-op and I did and haven't look back since. I haven't needed anything for joint pain whatsoever since my WLS.
   — Cathy S.

October 16, 2003
I had the same problem. I took at least 12 Advil a day to control knee pain just so I could walk. After surgery, the pain didn't go away but it did get better as I lost weight. I have very bad arthritis in my knees (in fact, I just had a total knee replacement July 30) and there were days when I could barely walk. My surgeon allowed me to take Celebrex occasionally to get through the bad times (I could take one a day for 5 days and then had to "rest" for 5 days). He said that ideally one shouldn't take those drugs at all as a post-op, but sometimes you have to bend the rules a little. He monitored me carefully and I had no problems. I rarely took them for more than three days - just enough to get the pain under control. Since my knee surgery, I've had to take a couple of Celebrex because of shoulder pain from putting my weight on the walker or cane. I expect to be completely free of the arthritis drugs after I have my other knee replaced next year. Losing weight is the best thing you can do for your body. My joints were too far gone for the weight loss alone to completely alieviate the problem but it did help immensely. And, I would not have been a candidate for the knee replacement without the weight loss.
   — Patty_Butler

October 16, 2003
I lived on strong prescription anti-inflammatories from Nov 95 till 1 week before surgery (Feb 2003), so I know EXACTLY what you mean. The week before surgery that I had to be off them was awful. So many things hurt like they hadn't in years. I have done every prescription anti-inflammatory out there and was always first in line for the new one. But surgery has changed that. <p>In my case I have moderate fibromyalgia and an unexplained inflammatory process going on in my body, plus some osteoarthritis in knees. Not Lupus or anything that bad but based on how my body responds to steroid injections (poistively) there is something that doesn't make sense. For me it's mainly by knees, feet, hips and back as well as all over body pain from the fibro. I woke from WLS and found all of my pains were gone, except the ones from the WLS. I assumed it was the morphine and then Percoset, but I quit all pain meds by 6 days PO and I was good for almost 4 weeks. I was shocked. It's not like I lost tons of weight the first month (22 lbs) that suddenly my body had much less to carry around. I started at 442. The lack of pain was wonderful is all I can tell you. At about 4 weeks PO my fibro flared up and I tried to tough it out for about 3 more weeks but finally had to go back on Bextra. I had discussed the situation with the surgeon at 4 weeks and he said as much as he did not want me on them, he wanted me moving and if that meant taking the anti-inflammatories, then do it. Fortunately Bextra is very small. So he had me break it in half and put the 1/2 into food that was all chewed and ready to swallow and then do the same with the other 1/2. That way my pouch was as protected as much as possible. What I did find is that it seemed to work better for me than in the past. I think maybe because I had the break from it my body wasn't accustomed to it. I used it for about 6-8 weeks and then got off. I did not want to push my luck and end up with an ulcer and I was feeling some better. While I still have some degree of pain all the time, I am used to living with that. Some days my knees are quite tight and hurt a lot, especially going down stairs. I may opt to have them injected them with cortisone at some point in the future so as to avoid having to take the anti-inflammatories. The other option is a steroid epidural in my low back which hopefully would help my back some and usually gives me an overall positive body effect. Not my first choice but an option. I am down 181 lbs in a little over 8 months and I can tell you that the pain of everything in my body is much less. The more I lost the more the hip pain and cramping went away. The first couple of months I could walk very little due to the pain and cramping, but now can walk 1-3 miles with very minimal problems. Yes I'm sore afterwards, but at least I am able to do it. The legs and back and hips cooperate well enough. <p>You have to accept that you will always have some pain but 99% chance it will be a lot better eventually. I find that extra strength tylenol will actually help me now on the days that are worse. There is always pain meds too. For me, in the past, Ultram produced the best results for arthritis type pain. It's a reasonable pain medication and not really considered addictive. There is liquid Vioxx available and I suspect at some point there will be others in liquid form. I also just recently heard that one of the things recommended for fibro patients is a high protein low carb diet, so a WLS diet might just be the ticket. I realize your situation isn't exactly the same as mine but hopefully you will have similar results. I feel right now that I am able to work with the situation much better than before surgery and I'm not on any anti-inflammatories so in my book the WL has helped a lot. I hope you experience something similar. It is worth the gamble in my book as you will be so much heathier and able to move that even if you still do have problems there will be that much less weight on the joints. Also realize that while anti-inflammatories are a no-no, sometimes the rules need to be broken. Fortunately my surgeon recognized that and did not force me to go do something without his knowledge. He just helped me to make the decision and figure out the best possible way to try and protect me as much as possible. For me getting rid of the anti-inflammatories also got rid of the Prilosec I live on for 8 years to keep my stomach happy due to the other drugs. So WLS helps in so many ways. Good Luck!
   — zoedogcbr

October 16, 2003
As for myself, the pain seemed to get worse. I still take 25 to 50 mg of Vioxx daily along with pain medication. I am much worse in the damp, colder days. So my surgery did not help with my pain. So, I guess it is an individual thing.
   — Sandra Y.




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