Question:
Why can I eat so much? I have not felt full yet?

I am almost three weeks post op (open rny) and I have found that i can eat anything. I tried bread, rice, even candy and soda. I dont like the soda any more but I wanted to try it to see if I would get sick? To date I have not dummped, thrown up, or even felt nassua. I asked my doctor why I could eat so much and such a varaiety of foods, and he really couldn't explain. Is there anyone else out there that can eat anything? and hasen't felt that FULL felling?    — Eddie L. (posted on April 4, 2005)


April 4, 2005
Hi Has Your surgeon not explained to you that the first 6 weeks your pouch will be numb and you won't be able to tell when you are full? Remember that it is still healing I mean half of it was cut off it need time to adjust. I wouldn't recommmend the pop I noticed after I drank a couple I could eat more. So I stopped. People are always debating on wether it will actually stretch your pouch or not but for me personaly I noticed like I said I could eat more. Give Your tummy some time heal You will feel things better in a few weeks, In the meantime take advantage of these first weeks You lose more now than you ever will again. Best Wishes
   — Shell G

April 4, 2005
My first question is why you are even trying all of those foods and CANDY? To commit yourself to the surgery you need to stay away from that stuff. Next - Soda is not a food, it is a fluid and will run through you quickly. Bread mushes up and also will go through quickly... candy? Depends on what kind of RNY you had, how much you are eating of it. Everybody does not dump, everybody does not dump right away. Some people dump on one thing but not another... but why sabotage your weight loss? I agree with the other poster. You should be following a plan. If your Dr is satisfied with what you are eating... I am certainly confused. Best wishes, Maggi B 4/03 283/167 lower than goal.
   — M B.

April 4, 2005
I just wanted to say that 3 weeks post op with my surgeon the diet is still liquid. Then at 4-6 weeks it goes to pureed foods. I don't think you're giving your stomach enough time to heal.
   — HeidiXOXO

April 4, 2005
three weeks ago you had major life and body altering surgery to lose weight. Now you are eating soda and candy? I couldn't find those on my diet list. I would strongly suggest you get to a dietician and let them help you with a sensible healthy eating plan that will carry you for life. Nutrition first, and later an occasional treat. Establishing a pattern to follow for life now while you are in the honeymoon stage after sugery will help you have the best loss and more importantly a way to maintain.. I lost easily. now at 2+ years out I am having to work the program hard to maintain. Only thru careful eating and much exercise can I maintain my slightly overweight 130 pounds at 5 feet tall with in 5 pounds at all times. I have maintained this weight for 1 year and 4 months, but as I said I really have to work or I will gain.
   — **willow**

April 4, 2005
At this point your body and new pouch haven't quite gotten in synch with how things are going to work from now on. One thing you can do is carefully measure how much food you are supposed to be eating at this point, this way you will know you have eaten enough. By measuring your food, you will begin to know how much is enough, and you can more accurately record how much protein, etc. you are getting in. I buy cheap Dixie cups in different sizes and carry them with me on the go so I know, even if I'm eating out, how much food I've consumed. Good luck with your journey, and start measuring your food -- it will help you until you start getting that "full feeling" in your pouch.
   — Shayna T.

April 4, 2005
Don't test your pouch. Just because you CAN eat something, doesn't mean you SHOULD be eating it. Three weeks out you should be following your Drs diet plan. I was still on liquids at 3 weeks. I was no where near ready for anything as heavy as bread, and definately NOT candy or soda. If at 3 weeks you are already trying things you shouldn't be having, you will sabotoge the weight loss. PLEASE you did this life altering procedure to save your life and get thin and healthy, it won't work if you are eating things you shouldn't be. I'm almost 2 yrs out and I never eat rice at all, candy, maybe once in a while, and I will never drink soda. Again, don't test. follow what he says. Good luck to you.
   — KellyJeanB

April 4, 2005
I had my surgery close to one year ago. When I was discharged from the hospital the surgeon told me to try anything I wanted. My family was having Lee's Famous Recipe one night for dinner. I was able to eat a chicken leg, and mashed potato, and green beans. Now, I said that I have not been able to eat that again. When I had my follow up with the surgeon about that. He indicated that the pouch had no healed yet. So, give your pouch time to heal. I doubt it if you could eat that again in the future. Stay away from soda's, and candy. I tried some sugar free candy but I found that the sugar alcholah in the candy was enough to kill me. Stay away from the sugar alch. Good Luck !
   — lkirkland1

April 4, 2005
Hope you won't mind hearing from a longer-term post-op who will echo what many others have already told you-- that you need to be learning how to use the tool the surgeon gave you, not test it to its outer limits. Assuming that, like the rest of us, you didn't gain your weight overnight, but rather as the result of a long-term, unhealthy food choices that tended to overcomsumption, testing the limits of your system hasn't really worked too well. For me, I was an utter failure when trying to practice moderation with my old trigger foods-- so, when it came time for surgery, when I realized that I had reached the end of my rope, I decided to work on fashioning a new relationship with food. Food isn't a treat, it isn't a reward, it is merely pure utilitarian nutrition. When I was tempted, particularly early on, to test my pouch, to give myself that little taste of candy, I tried to ask myself why I felt entitled to try to cheat the changes that I had had made to my system. I would try at those moments to ask myself why I would want to indulge in foods that would hurt me-- whether BY physically making me sick, or by undermining the ability of my new RNY digestive system to help me control my eating. So, maybe, just maybe, the question for any of us who test the limits of our pouches is not a physiological inquiry of why we don't feel full, but rather a psychological question of why we want to feel full in the first place rather than just merely satieted. GOOD LUCK.
   — SteveColarossi

April 5, 2005
WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO YOURSELF? At three weeks you should be having little more than protein shakes and soft foods (preferably high protein soft foods). You still have healing wounds inside of you. You are playing with fire and you are setting yourself up for failure later on. I did not feel like I could get full at 3 weeks either but it was because I was still "eating" mostly liquid and pureed foods that go right through. I am now almost 2 months post op eating solid foods and I definitely get full. How much I can eat differs from day to day. Let me say this though, if you start eating high carbs and junk like you used to, this surgery won't help you. The one thing I learned reading these postings over the several months before my surgery was that people who eat high carbs end up getting hungry quickly after they eat, and grazing all day. After the honeymoon period, they then see their weight loss stop or reverse itself. I for one did not go through this to sabotage myself that way. I am sorry to be so direct, but someone needs to. STOP MESSING AROUND AND COMMIT TO THIS! IT'S NOT A MAGIC REMEDY. IT STILL TAKES WORK AND PROPER EATING HABITS. Now go eat some healthy protein and good luck!
   — Beatrice C.

April 5, 2005
Why are you pushing the envelope so soon????? Number one you should be on liquids to semi soft foods at this stage. Your stoma and intestinal track need to heal. Number 2 only 40% of RNY patients dump. Number 3 the nerve endings in your stomach have not healed that is why you do not feel the sensation of being full. Number 4 stay away from all the foods that you have mentioned for the honeymoon period of your weight loss time, don't even try them. You should be concentrating on protein rich foods at this time and not carbs. Contact your doctor for dietary guidance on what you should be eating and how much. Now is the time to start learning new healthy eating and exercise habits to carry you through the rest of your life.
   — ChristineB

April 5, 2005
I too have asked this same thing. And gotten almost the same answers. I have decided that most of the hunger is in my head and that I have to deal with the head not the pouch. I feel that I have a tool given to me and that it is up to me to use it correctly. I messure everything and count every carb,cal, and proteins.( FitDay.com ) I think that in the long run as I learn new habbits with the help of my tool. I may not have to watch everything so close. I feel now that I get the best feeling from working my tool and the plan that I have for myself. You pouch will start to feel more and more as you heal and get use to listening to it. I am 9 weeks out and feeling so much better. E-mail me if you want to talk. Know what you are feeling............Peggy
   — Peggy R.




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