Question:
Is lap RNY really worth waiting

6 months for, or going for open in about a month. I have been working with a wonderful surgeon locally that will only do the open RNY procedure on someone of my size, and I can get into surgery in about a month. However, I have recently been looking into having the surgery done lap due to the shortened healing time and such, but won't be able to get in to see that doctor (which is totally across the country) until late May. I am anxious to have this surgery done, but 6 months is not long I guess considering. What do ya'll think? Thanks for your thoughts!    — [Deactivated Member] (posted on December 23, 2002)


December 22, 2002
Go for the open! I believe it is the safer procedure (I know I'm gonna get blasted for saying that!LOL). I was only off work for 3 weeks with my surgery.
   — MARSHA D.

December 22, 2002
I like the way you spell your name! The choice is yours, really. Lets compare your choices...The lap does have a shorter recovery period, is less intrusive and less scaring. But you will have to wait 6 months or more. With open, obviously a larger scar, a little longer recovery and a higher chance of developing hernias. You say that you have a wonderful surgeon locally that will only do open. Traveling across country to have surgery cannot be easy, especially for follow up visits. And just because you can get in to see him in late May does not mean that surgery will be scheduled right away, have you checked the cross country docs surgery schedule? I had mine lap, but presented with the choices you have-local and open, or 6 months or longer wait/cross country/lap, I think I would have chosen to stay local.
   — Cindy R.

December 22, 2002
I'm really suprised at the previous answers, I personally had lap and I'm glad I did. I was up and feeling great the second day. I know waiting 6 months would be hard but I've had a c-section and I hear that open is just about as hard to recover from. I was down for weeks with a c-section. Good Luck in your decision.
   — kelly M.

December 22, 2002
I can speak from both sides of this. My original surgery was done lap. However, my surgeon made a mistake, attached my intestines to my new stomach upside down, and I had to have an open surgery 2 months later to get that fixed. I had minimal pain with both procedures, didn't have a pain med pump at all and didn't need one. Everyone's experience is different, but one of the other posts made a good point about staying local, rather than waiting 6 months to see someone across the country and then maybe having to wait even longer to get a surgery date. I was very sick from the time of my original surgery in May until after the second surgery. I then had to spend about 8 weeks in rehab to get my strength back and re-learn to eat and drink. I very much needed the vast amount of help my borther and sister gave me. If I had been a long distance away from home, I would not have had their help.
   — garw

December 22, 2002
A difficult decision! I believe that you should first consider which surgeon you are most comfortable with. Then take into consideration the difficutly of long distance travel and follow up. Finally, each surgery has it's own risks, which you must consider. One thing that I worry about is that many people seem to think that Lap has no complications, which is not true at all. So consider all the complications. Also open is a shorter surgery, which was a big factor for me! Anyway, I'm throwing all these things at you to consider. My personal opinion (for what it's worth- not having all the facts) is that is it not worth waiting for the lap procedure. I had open RNY and was back to work in 2 weeks (desk job). No kidding. It only took about 10 days for my incision to close completely. You'll have to take it easy in the beginning, but you'll be well on your way before the other surgeon could even see you. Good luck to you!
   — LMCLILLY

December 23, 2002
I believe I lost 102 pounds in the first six months. Would I wait 6 months to get a LAP? Absolutely not! I had an Open and personally think it is safer. Yes I know it is slower in healing and the possibility of a hernia exists. But I want a surgeon to SEE and be able to MOVE my guts out of the way and not to have a tiny little camera that maxnifies things bigger. To each his own, but I still say an Open is safer. But we all can debate that and there are both pros and cons to both the LAP and OPEN. Personally, I would go for the 100 pounds or so loss you would "probally have" during that 6 month wait! However it is all up to you. If you have your heart set on LAP... then wait! It is all personal preference. ;)
   — Danmark

December 23, 2002
Hi there, I had lap rny and am so happy I did. I was in the same situation as you though at first. I didnt want to wait for the lap, so I researched more doctors and found one that had relocated to my area (therefore, he didnt have the waiting list everyone else had). I was walking 2 hours out of recovery and you can barely see my incisions. The huge scar was an issue for me. Now I am 4 weeks out and exercising, working and living great! Good Luck with your choice.
   — kandi S.

December 23, 2002
I'm pre-op but I when I have my wls I have 2 doctors to chose from. One does lap, if you meet the requirements and I do, one does open. I have decided to go with whoever gets me in sooner. I have had 3 c-sections and the recovery time for me wasnt much. If this is the first time you have had surgery you will want someone with you and a surgeon you can call or see anytime you need to. I couldnt imagin flying cross country for after-care. This surgery does require after care. And like the other person said, think of all the weight you can lose in those 6 months. That right there would decide it for me. lol
   — TheresaC

December 23, 2002
As you can see from the previous posts, we are all a little partial to the way we had our surgeries done. I think this is a very personal decision for you and you have to weigh the pros and cons and then make the decision. There are people who feel that the Lap is better for the healing time and such. I had it done that way and was only off work for 2 1/2 weeks. I am doing fine now 5 months later. You will hear the same thing from people who had the open procedure. Just make sure that you get all the information you can about both types of surgery. Good luck with your decision making and God Bless.
   — tulagirl

December 23, 2002
Lap with less pain, lesshospital time, faster overall recovery, no chance of hernia either, and a likely smaller chance of infection. But support post op is very important. Is there a support group you can attend? Even if you arent a patient. Prepared to stay longer if you get a cmplication out of state? Yours is a mixed bag of whatiffs. Is your PCP up to date on WLS aftercare? Honestly ood aftercare is as important as opre op testing. You will spend the rest of your life in aftercare.
   — Sam J.

December 23, 2002
You are at exactly where I was 1 month ago. I was insisting on LAP since I had my galbladder out that way and knew it was a quick recovery. However, I really did not want to go out of state to find a doctor who would do a LAP on a person with a 64 BMI and 432 lbs. There are surgeons out there and quite good but a long ways away.<p>However, 20 minutes from my house is a surgeon with a great bariatric surgery track record and recommended by my internist. I went to him and gave him my pitch for LAP but he would not budge. His reasoning is what everyone has already said, he can clearly see what he is doing and more improtantly can get me in and out of surgery a lot faster, which is safer. He does LAP but so far not over 50 BMI. If he was going to do it over 50 I probably would be his ideal candidate since I do not carry tons of fat on my chest and upper ribcage so it would be easier than some my size. He said my hospital stay would only be one day longer with an open. I have accepted the open as I want it done now and I want it done close to home for all the various kinds of support I will need throughout this process from my family, friends and doctors. If I met his qualifications for LAP you can be sure I would have gone that route but I did not feel it was worth waiting a long time for a CHANCE at LAP. Going in LAP is no guarantee you won't come out open!
   — zoedogcbr

December 23, 2002
I had lap and I was very happy that I did. I was back to work in just two weeks and the recovery was very easy. also my scars are barely noticable. Keep in mind though that about 1 in 10 lap procedures get switched to open during the procedure. And although the recovery time is much less, the actual operating time is more, making it a little more risky. I am only 31 and was a "lightweight" with a BMI of 40. I was also in pretty good health. So I felt pretty comfortable with the longer time in the OR.
   — Linda A.

December 23, 2002
Bottom line: If you feel exactly the same about these two docs except for the open or lap thing ... then also consider the aftercare problem and the 6 month wait and you really have your answer. Have your surgery while you're well enough to have it. Anything can happen later on. You could, for instance, be heavier and in poor health or you could be 100 lbs lighter and living your new life.
   — thumpiez

December 23, 2002
I would go for the open. You might not be up to travelling across the country so soon after major surgery to get back home again. I had lap RNY 10/15/2002 and was in lots of pain. Also, if you have complications, your doctor will be local. Hopefully, the local surgeon also has a support group you can attend, which you won't be able to for the lap doctor. Best wishes!
   — Yolanda J.

December 23, 2002
I had open and went to work after 10 days and felt great. I weighed 336. You can have a good healing even with Open. And you know what, I don't mind the scar, in fact I want to show it to everyone. Sick, huh!? LOL
   — Kristy J.

December 23, 2002
I had open and went to work after 10 days and felt great. I weighed 336. You can have a good healing even with Open. And you know what, I don't mind the scar, in fact I want to show it to everyone. Sick, huh!? LOL
   — Kristy J.

December 23, 2002
First off, thank you all sooooo much for your insightful replies! I am thinking after today, my husband and I will go open with the doctor located locally. My husband went to the doctor this morning and found out he has type 2 diabetes, high cholesterol, protein and his urine and so on. I agree that waiting 6 mos for a POSSIBLE lap procedure is ridiculous, especially considering the fact that he could potentially lose 100+ pounds within that period. Our local doctor does have a wonderful aftercare program. We also have a good repoire with him and have been seeing him off and on for about 3 years. Thank you again for your help! ~Danyel
   — [Deactivated Member]

December 23, 2002
Dr Oh is my doc also. The two surgeries are not identical, either. Given what I know now, I would choose the procedure I have over others I've seen AND still choose Dr Oh (& Dr Fox) as my surgeons. And since you're not far away, there are support groups in PO and here in Puyallup that you are welcome to attend!
   — vitalady

December 23, 2002
I would suggest that you go open, my Dr. had told me that on certain patients with many comorbidities, the open is the way to go. I had an open RNY ( I did not have may health issues, other than asthma), I was 440lbs and I saw what the lap instruments looked like, they where very large, and I just could not see that stuff poking in me. I also wanted to make sure that my bowel did not get pierced, so I told him to do an open RNY, so that he could see everything. Gods Blessings to you and your husband, and I hope you all make the correct decision. I will say a prayer for you all. Happy Holidays!!!! P.S., I have lost over 65lbs since October 22, 2002. This will happen to you!!!!
   — Leslie W.

December 23, 2002
I would suggest that you go open, my Dr. had told me that on certain patients with many comorbidities, the open is the way to go. I had an open RNY ( I did not have may health issues, other than asthma), I was 440lbs and I saw what the lap instruments looked like, they where very large, and I just could not see that stuff poking in me. I also wanted to make sure that my bowel did not get pierced, so I told him to do an open RNY, so that he could see everything. Gods Blessings to you and your husband, and I hope you all make the correct decision. I will say a prayer for you all. Happy Holidays!!!! P.S., I have lost over 65lbs since October 22, 2002. This will happen to you!!!!
   — Leslie W.

December 24, 2002
My opinion~~mind you, my surgery was open~~The healing time is shortened by 2 weeks. Thats the incisional healing only. The insides are going through the same thing. And yes, you will probably have less chance for a hernia. The long run~~It's not going to matter how long it took for you to recover. After 2 months you are going to forget anyhow. If you are getting lap because the scar will not be a apparent. I love this one....my scar is the best looking part of my tummy right now. lol This is a decision you will have to make, dont feel you have to do it open because you get get it sooner, and dont feel you have to get it lap because of the heal time. None of this will make any difference a year from now.
   — RebeccaP




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