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Question about weight watchers points

I DONT KNOW IF THIS IS A SILLY QUESTION,I HAVE CONSIDERED JOINING WEIGHT WATCHERS BECAUSE IM NOT LOSING. DO WE FOLLOW THE POINTS FOR OUR WEIGHT, OR DO WE LOWER THE POINTS BECAUSE OUR STOMACHES ARE SMALLER?    — Schatzie1 (posted on February 24, 2003)


February 24, 2003
I have done weight watchers before and even though I am pre-op I don't see how you could get in the recommended amount of "points" without snacking like crazy. I guess it all depends how far post op you are and how much food you can tolerate now.
   — Sarah S.

February 24, 2003
I have done WW before. I would figure out how many calories you need (ask your doctor) and then figure out the points, roughly 50-60 per point. WW gives you more points the more you weigh, so don't follow their points for how much you weigh. Good luck!
   — [Deactivated Member]

February 24, 2003
I wouldn't recommend WW yet since you're so early post-op. (less than 5 months it looks like?) Get our your "pouch rules"... make sure you're following them. If you are, then it's just a plateau so hang in there. You will lose better following the rules than w/ WW at this point.
   — mom2jtx3

February 25, 2003
I joined WW Jan 13 I lost 12 pounds withing the first 2 weeks, the point system is good I ate very little and stayed full, I never went over my points actually I did not use all my points in 1 day, I am still on it only differnce I am not writing everything down like I was , it just teaches you how to eat
   — Tammy 'Buckley McCool

February 25, 2003
I joined ww in mid Nov cause I needed some major motivation to drink water, exercise and watch what I eat, and I have always enjoyed the program. I was on the plateau from hell, and I have lost about 15lbs since then. Here's the thing that freaks me out...I just got into the 20-25 points range (I am finally under 170lbs -yeah! ME!) but even in the higher range I had a tough time keeping in it...It seems I pretty much bypass the range every day. Not really intending to, I don't really snack, but I can eat a normal meal, and they add up quickly (eg. this am I had a little over 1/2 of a skillet bkfast and a slice of toast, which is around 10pts, today for lunch I had a deep fried pork chop and a few bites of rice (tack on another 8pts or so, this wouldn't have normally been my choice, but I am on travel, so what can you do?) and I think tonite I will have some Italian - perhaps 3/4 of a restaurant plate of lasagne, maybe a roll.) Now, technically I have 7 points left, but I am sure my dinner tonite will count for more. I am still losing though, and not going totally crazy. Why am I still doing it?...cause I really want my 10% weight loss key chain (maybe this Sat.?) and my lifetime membership. I haven't confessed my WLS secret to my leader or the other members but I am getting a sense of acomplishment every week by seeing the scales go down...I look at this way... It's helping me reach my ultimate goal, and god knows I have EARNED it after all these years. Good luck to you in whatever you decide.
   — rebeccamayhew

February 25, 2003
Rebecca I disagree with you , if u already have WLS why are u still going to weight watchers ????? why would u want the rewards they give lifetime membership yata yata , when you havent earned it , the people I have seen at weight watchers are very honest and upfront and no they have not had WLS, there losing the weight without the tool of WLS, but you have your tool..........I think you should be honest with the people in your Group !! they praise people each week for there loss, and if u lose in 1 week and credit weight watchers you get the praise, but your a WLS patient that just dishonest as can be ............and I should not post this but I am going to anyway
   — Tammy 'Buckley McCool

February 25, 2003
Just FYI, Tammy -- others have posted here who found they got a chilly reception at WW once they disclosed they'd had WLS. I'm sure it depends on the group, but I can understand not disclosing it. And please note that plenty of post-ops need support in re-learning their eating habits, which has less and less to do with the surgery and the pouch as time goes on, and more and more to do with the types of balanced eating that they teach at WW. Plenty of post-ops use it to help with plateaus and lifestyle changes, and IMHO, there's nothing "dishonest" about doing so.
   — Suzy C.

February 25, 2003
By all means, join WW! BUT, be realistic about it. I am still pre-op. I've done WW in the past and honestly enjoyed doing it. Unfortunately, I have a bad habit of quitting things that make me feel good. I've since worked on that and continue doing so. Whether you disclose the WLS or not is strictly up to you. I think that going to the meetings and being accountable is a good thing. My plan is to join once I am post-op, but have not yet decided if I will go weekly or bi-weekly. Either way, WW gives you rewards for achieving goals. Your dues pay for their leadership AND those rewards. Basically, it is a support group and a service in one. As far as how many points you eat, talk it over with your doctor. I would think you'd eat less than what the 'normal' WW member would eat. Every weightloss program has a disclaimer that everyone loses at their own pace. Because you have an added 'tool' does not make you less of a person, just more likely to succeed. Go for it...but first get your head in order. Get back to what you're supposed to be doing. I'll be rooting for you!!
   — Diane S.

February 25, 2003
Well, Tammy, thank you for your very judgemental response to my post...for your information...I am following the WW program, paying my $, and when I reach my lifetime membership, I will have EARNED it, whether I have had WLS or NOT. So, you're free to think what you want about me, but I am NOT ashamed, nor do I feel I am doing anything dishonest. Geeze! Some of the people on this board...
   — rebeccamayhew

February 26, 2003
I had to learn how to eat right long term so I joined WW when I was a new post op. Somewhere down the road you will appreciate the learned experience of the correct way to eat . My group new I had surgery and my leader understood the need I had for increased protein. Another lady in my group was a WLS patient , she was 15 yrs post op. She had put on about 25 lbs in those 15 yrs and joined to get it off. My WW leader's husband ended up having the surgery himself so I helped guide him and give support to her. WW is a great program , even though many times before WLS I tried it and failed I new it was right for me long term.
   — Rose A.

February 26, 2003
I certainly think WW is one way to go. Is there a support group in your area. I would fit the point style to smaller pouch. I think Tammy missed your point. You are not losing you said. When I was in WW everyone knew you could adjust your goal for lifetime achievement etc. And besides maybe support is what you are really looking for. There are many food plans in WW and I would not be surprised if they didn't come up with one for WLS people.
   — snicklefritz

February 26, 2003
Rebecca........I did not think I was being Judgemental , I call it as I see it, as for some people on the boards like you said . you dont know me and I am a very nice person But if your going to flip because I made a comment , well you must be upset because I am right and its the truth.
   — Tammy 'Buckley McCool

February 26, 2003
As immature as it may be, Tammy, I am going to have the last word in this...I noticed from your profile you have not had WLS yet. If you are having such sucess with WW and are so superior to the rest of us, why don't you go ahead and just do it "on your own"? I rarely get angry on this board, but you have p*%%#^ me off with your judgements...you are NOT right about me, and are NOT welcome to respond to me either in this forum, or by email. Thank you.
   — rebeccamayhew

February 26, 2003
Ya know there are some people who had WLS- LIKE surgeries or other medical conditions who perhaps still attend WW. Should they have to disclose that? WW is a great tool, WLS or not. I don't think it's anyone's business if I go to WW or a GYM, if I follow the program, I follow the program. If I am sucessful, don't knock me! Because my stomach is smaller than mosts' doesn't mean my HEAD isn't like theirs and I think thats what really counts. I don't consider it "cheating" and if you have done a good job following the program, you deserve praise. WLS does not control cravings, or structure... it just shrinks your stomach size. While you can use this to your advantage, some of us still need more.
   — Karen R.

February 26, 2003
Rebecca .........LMAO first of all WW did not work for me DUH! that is why I am persuing WLS...all I said is WW showed me how to eat, But I am not going there to take advantage of there rewards.......and even when I do have my surgery witch will be very soon I still wont go to WW because, but more power to ya and sorry but I do have last word and if you got yourself all pissed off than boo hoo to you , reamber you took it to exstreams.....and I have no desire to email you or chat with u , have a nice life
   — Tammy 'Buckley McCool

February 26, 2003
Wow! I think this is a little out of hand! I go to WW because I needed the extra motivation and support. Like one of the previous posters said our stomach is smaller but we still have to do the work. I have worked very hard for my success and I have to pass up temptations daily. I chose not to tell the people at WW about my surgery because I think people look at my weight loss differently when they hear that I had surgery. Sometimes they think I took the "easy way out" and like I said before, I have worked VERY hard for what I have done. I watch my carbohydrates, exercise 5 times a week, drink my water, get in my protein, vitamins etc. I keep track of my points and some days I get in what they recommend and other days I don't get in all the points. I think anyone who goes to WW (whether they had surgery or not) deserves the rewards because it is hard work no matter how you choose to lose it. And to the poster who has not had surgery yet(I don't remember your name and I can't go back to check while I'm typing this): If you are going in to this thinking that this is going to be a piece of cake and you are not going to have to do any work, then do some more research because it's not easy! Cheryl
   — cdiss

February 26, 2003
yes it has gotten out of hand , sorry about that...I am finished with it , I hit the the nerve and this is the net truth hurts is all I can say ......I wont respond to anymore of this nonsense
   — Tammy 'Buckley McCool

February 26, 2003
I plateaued big time at WW and I plateau now after WLS. Losing weight is STILL a struggle and I think that if I felt like it, I would go to WW for the support and the idea exchange and not feel a bit guilty. When I was at WW, I received little ribbons for every 5 lbs lost. It was nice to get a ribbon but I paid for those ribbons with my dues. :)
   — susanje

February 26, 2003
psttttttt I never said WLS was a easy way out , and I have researched it plenty, I cant wait till surgery day !!! : ) : )
   — Tammy 'Buckley McCool




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