PDCAA score for Body Fortress Protein Shots

Just out of curiousity because I know some surgeons recommend protein shots to their patients, I wrote to the people who make the Body Fortress Protein Shots and asked them what percentage was whey isolate protein and what percentage was collagen.  This is how they responded:

"Thank you for contacting Body Fortress. All of our product labels list the nutrients and amounts in the "Supplement Facts" box found on each label. Some of these products contain very unique blends. The ingredients in our proprietary blends are listed in order of predominance. We are not able to divulge the precise amounts of each ingredient in these blends because they are proprietary--or in other words confidential. Use of proprietary blends helps us deliver unique products at the best value to our customers. "

So I then asked if they could at least give me the PDCAA score of the protein that was in the protein shots.  They responded with:

"We apologize for the delay in our response as we were researching the most accurate information for your request. The PDCAA score for the Body Fortress Whey Shot 26 gram fruit punch is .08"

.08.  POINT ZERO EIGHT.  Hmmmm.  So lets's now look at the definition from Wikipedia for PDCAAS:

Protein Digestibility Corrected Amino Acid Score (PDCAAS) is a method of evaluating the protein quality based on both the amino acid requirements of humans and their ability to digest it. The PDCAAS rating is a fairly recent evaluation method; it was adopted by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Food and Agricultural Organization of the United Nations/World Health Organization (FAO/WHO) in 1993 as "the preferred 'best'" method to determine protein quality. These organizations have suggested that other methods for evaluating the quality of protein are inferior.^[1]

And now the PDCAAS rating system:

A PDCAAS value of 1 is the highest, and 0 the lowest. The table shows the ratings of selected foods.^[2][3][4]

1.00	casein (milk protein)
1.00	egg white
1.00	soy protein
1.00	whey (milk protein)
0.92	beef
0.91	soybeans
0.78	chickpeas
0.76	fruits
0.73	vegetables
0.70	legumes
0.59	cereals and derivatives
0.42	whole wheat

So the .08 that the people from Body Fortress claims is in their protein is pretty much ZERO.  Notice they don't say that is the collagen portion.  They say that is the PDCAA score for all of the protein in their whey protein shots. 

So for the people that are still saying, well it's better to get SOME protein than none....you are getting none.

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Steve

At least you got an answer on the PDCAA score.  I contacted them and got NO response whatsoever (perhaps because I specifically asked about the score initially).  Now you understand why we tell people NO when it comes to any of these products!

Lora

I kept telling people they shouldn't use it as their protein source but people would get mad at me. I do believe everyone should make their own choices, but at least make an "informed" choice. Now I can honestly say I have done my research and everything that I (and many of you) said was true and is backed up by the manufacturer itself.

I am kinda confused by that list of scores, though. Fruits and vegetables came in with higher scores than legumes?
In protein?
That goes against everything I thought I knew...

I don't eat a lot of meat, and I have been cutting down on salads and fruits to make more room for beans and tofu. Have I been doing this bass ackwards?

Oh, wait, I see soybeans came in quite high, that's a relief. I assume tofu would fall under the soybean category.

Yes.  Not all beans are created equal, LOL.

Lora

And remember, these scores reflect the "quality" of different types of protein, not necessarily the "quantity"  So for example, Body Fortress can claim there is 23 grams of protein in their shots because there probably is.  It's just crappy protein that we can't absorb or digest.

Thank you for taking the time to do this.  People just don't realize how important this is and we have a lot of Nuts out there that are buying into this crap and passing it on to their patients. "Well, its better than nothing." Like my nut said about Viactiv, she lost all credibility that day.

Don't even get me started on Viactiv.