OT - or not, random vit D info

OK, I'm offering the vit D tests now. These would be for ppl who have no insurance OR the doc won't order them OR you want to see more often.

I bought them in Dec, so I really am bugged about paying inventory tax to own something, then it gets taxed again when it sells. Grrr.

OK, so I pulled them off the shelf 12/31 and sold them to me. I tested my staff. And my son. One girl was too scared. (rolling eyes)

So, your guess first:
Asian, 63 female, not taking any vites

cauc, 40 female, MO, taking pretty goodly amt of vit D, but not like clock work

cauc, 20's, also MO, but not as much, no vites

my son, cauc, 38, prolly taking 15k a week of the 10k per day I told him to (so Irish)

male, 21, Puerto Rican (?), but not dark skin, no vites


Your guess?

I still say I've never seen a good First D Test. I maintain that, but one surprised me.

63 y/o Asian? Highest risk had the highest score of 35.

My son at 33

F 40 at 29 (she takes a lot but is maybe 200+ into MO)
M, 21, level of 25
F, 20's, level of 18

They are all normal gut ppl!

I had 5 tests. the one who didn't test is now pouting cuz she missed out on the freebie. LOL

If you test yourself, you send the result to the maker and they send it to you. I only saw them because I paid and asked permission.

So, when I say I have not seen a good First test? I'll stand by that. AND every now and then I walk around and poke a D3-5 into a face or two. They all had 10k today as their post-result-reading treat.

I'd venture to guess somewhere in the neighborhood of 90% of the vitamin D levels we test are abnormally low and we test everyone (mostly normal gut people).  Some of the lowest results we see are in patients in their teens and tweens! 

And it is contrary to everything we've ever been taught. !!

My ex DIL lives in Barcelona (where she was born) and her D was 7. SEVEN. Same scale as ours. I gave her 50k per day for 30 days, then every other (she's RNY). Her doc says to her, "Does your MIL not know you live on the Mediterranean?"

We had a good laugh over that cuz duh, yes, my grandaughter has honey blonde hair like daddy (blue shirt in pic) and brown eyes like mommy. And I ask, "Can your doctor not read that 7 is the same as no vit D on board AT ALL?"

Testing my ppl was interesting. D3-5 is cheap, they get employee discounts, the bottles hold a lot so any two could split a bottle.

They're eyes were popped open today since they just thought I was being a fanatic. I am, a little, but it's always nice to have a stock of black and whie proof.

To what standard do you hold your ppl? My lab and this lab used the 32-100. One local lab used 35-150 and then suddenly 20-50? So, I stick with the 32-100. Quest is still back 6 yrs ago with 20-80.

I want to see nothing under 70 to kick in all the benefits D offers.

Our lab normal is listed as 30-100.  I accept absolutely nothing less than 50 in normal gut people and prefer 70-100 if possible.  I want my bariatric patients no less than 90 if possible.  My colleagues start getting worried about vitamin D toxicity at levels greater than 50.  It's difficult with all the conflicting information out there -- especially with the newly-released recommendations late last year stating levels in the 20's are 'adequate" and don't require supplementation.  BOGUS!  It makes it difficult, however, to justify supplementation when even the expert medical community cannot agree on what "normal" is.  The Institute of Medicine reported 11/30/10 that vitamin D levels at 20 nanograms per milliliter are good enough to maintain normal bone health. 

http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2010/Dietary-Reference-Intakes-fo r-Calcium-and-Vitamin-D/Report-Brief.aspx

Sadly, we're even seeing more and more men with osteopenia and osteoporosis at early ages because very few providers screen males until it's too late.  Vitamin D deficiency should be a huge red flag to get a bone density done sooner rather than later regardless of age or gender in my opinion.  It's so much easier to supplement D3 and calcium now as opposed to treating a hip fracture later.  The benefits of weightbearing exercises cannot be overstressed either for maintaining healthy bones. 

Anybody with a weight issue, high or low, should be tested for B12, iron, calc, D.

Drives me crazy that D is considered some sorta luxury item. Maybe. Until the victim has fractured too many bones or lost teeth. But as you know, western medical ppl don't tend to regard vitamin and mineral levels as part of the tntire picture, hence why it's not really medical. Dietary professionals consider them, but also consider that the goals (seet by whom? when?) can be met by proper eating.

ND's think a lil more like I do, using natural when you can, rx if you must, eating "right" dependent on what "right" is for YOU/ME/HER/HIM.

This is why both of my girls take D3. The oldest at 15 takes 50K one time a week and then 4k per day. The little one (age 11) takes 4k per day.

I am 3 years out and I have used your dry D3 since about 2 weeks out. I have taken 50k a day....EVERYDAY!  I am very happy to report that my labs done last month had my D at 85.1.

That's fabulous!

Do w know where you started?

No I don't. I never had a test done pre-op. At 6 months out I was at 117 but it's never been that high since. I even dropped to 40 on one reading but lately I've been hanging in the 80-85 range. I've thought about adding a few more in per week but I don't know how much?

Renee, do you take your iron at a certain time of day? Someone told me to try taking the my D 200,000 units in the middle of the night away from foods with fats, etc, which may cause the iron to flush out of me. I take my iron if i wake up in the middle of the night, but if not, i take it at 5-6 in the morning when i wake up for the day and don't eat for at least an hour. Waiting ffor my lab results to arrive in the mail. It was 19 in November, and previous to that it was 33 for several months. I sure hope it has come up.