PRE-OPS ONLY! Post-ops, read about the DS at your own risk

(deactivated member)
on 7/27/11 7:04 am - San Jose, CA

(FOR THE READING COMPREHENSION IMPAIRED, THIS IS NOT TO PUT DOWN POST-OPS WHO PICKED OTHER PROCEDURES, BUT TO COMPARE THE BENEFITS OF THE DS WITH OTHER PROCEDURES FOR PRE-OPS WHO HAVEN'T COMMITTED YET.  IF YOU THINK IT IS DISRESPECTING YOU PERSONALLY, ASK YOURSELF WHY YOU CHOSE TO THINK THAT.)

If you have not THOROUGHLY studied the benefits of the duodenal switch (DS), you cannot make a fully informed decision about which surgery is the best one for you
:

  1. The DS has by far the best average weight loss of any of the surgeries a statistical fact
  2. More importantly, the DS has by far the best average LONG TERM MAINTENANCE of weight loss of all surgeriesa statistical fact
  3. The DS has by far the best CURE RATE FOR TYPE 2 DIABETES, including LONG TERM CURE, even with weight regain (the others have substantial rates of diabetes returning, especially with the far more likely weight regain)a statistical fact
  4. The DS is suitable for ANYONE who qualifies for bariatric surgery, and not just SMOs, which has been recognized by the ASMBS, ACE, Medicare, and most insurance companies, even for BMIs >35 with a serious co-morbidity (especially if that is diabetes or hypercholesterolemia – a statistical fact
  5. The DS has the easiest post-op dietary regimen of all of the surgeries – FAT IS YOUR FRIEND.  Little to no restriction on eating delicious high fat, high protein foods, because you don’t absorb much fat – and your cholesterol and triglycerides will plummet, without meds
  6. Good DS foods include marbled steak, crab legs with butter, chicken WITH the skin, cheeseburgers with all the fixings (but hold the bun), scallops sautéed in butter, cheese of every sort, eggs – and BACON!
  7. No dumping, no food getting stuck, no limitations on drinking with meals, no sliming or “productive burping," no fills and unfills, no stoma blockage, no marginal ulcers, no restrictions on taking NSAIDs

However, you should NOT consider the DS if you

  1. Are too stupid to follow the simple rules of the DS: eat high protein, take your supplements, get your labs done diligently and adjust your supplements as necessary
  2. Are too lacking in self-control to manage/time your overall intake of refined carbs to avoid weight gain and gas
  3. Are too sheep-like to argue with your PCP or surgeon for the right to have the most effective WLS
  4. Are too passive to fight your insurance company to get the DS, when most of them will LOSE on appeal
  5. Are too cowed by doctors to stand up to them in the future, to explain what surgery you had and how your treatments need to be tailored
  6. Are too submissive to advocate for yourself
  7. Are too weak to be certain that you will ALWAYS ensure your access to necessary protein, supplements, lab tests and other medical care
  8. Are too dim-witted or so brainwashed by Judeo-Christian “morality" to understand that eating delicious flavorful food that you enjoy and which is right for your anatomy is not sinful or gluttonous – it is wonderful!
  9. Are so self-loathing that you feel you need to suffer to atone for your sins in order to enjoy life with weight loss surgery
(Again, for the reading comprehension impaired, I didn't say if you didn't get the DS, you must have these attributes - I said if you have these attributes, you shouldn't have the DS - BIG DIFFERENCE!!  But one that zooms over certain people's heads, apparently.)

Remember:

  1. Insurance coverage for the DS is expanding all the time, and even if your policy does not cover the procedure you have a good chance of getting it covered on appeal
  2. Only a qualified DS surgeon can help you figure out if the DS is for you - if you see a RNY surgeon, he is going to tell you to have a RNY
  3. If you see a surgeon who SAYS he offers the DS, but then tries to talk you into something else, odds are you’ve gone to a “bait-and-don’t-switch" surgeon – check the surgeon list at DSFacts.com before you go.
  4. WARNING: More and more insurance companies are instituting a “one bariatric surgery per lifetime" restriction on their policies, no matter WHO paid for the first surgery – and you may not get a second chance to have a revision if you pick a surgery that doesn’t work for you in the first place
  5. Revision patients lose more slowly and lose less on average
  6. Revisions are MUCH more dangerous surgeries than virgin surgeries
  7. Think about the psychological damage it would cause you to work your ass off to work your ass off with a less effective surgery – only to have it fail

THINK TWICE, CUT ONCE!

For more information, join us on the DS forum here, or go to www.DSFacts.com.

(If you think this looks familiar, it is - it is a repost of http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/amos/4319381/PRE-OPS-ONLY- Post-ops-read-about-the-DS-at-your-own-risk/
And then there was this one, emphasizing the insurance issues, which have only become worse in the 20 months since it was posted: http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/amos/4071519/WARNING-TO-PR E-OPS-Think-twice-cut-once-or-else/)
Those were fun threads, even if the best parts got deleted by the mods.
MsBatt
on 7/27/11 7:29 am
And no one's panties have gotten wadded up yet! How amazing!
(deactivated member)
on 7/27/11 9:23 am
On July 27, 2011 at 2:29 PM Pacific Time, MsBatt wrote:
And no one's panties have gotten wadded up yet! How amazing!
Because everyone on here is starting to realize that we're right about the DS over RNY. They're too busy saving up for their revision to say otherwise:-)
(deactivated member)
on 7/27/11 9:55 am - San Jose, CA
You are such a provocateur - always "pokin' at ya, pokin' at ya":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulM4E08J8Lo
Elizabeth N.
on 12/16/11 1:24 pm - Burlington County, NJ
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Elizabeth N.
on 12/17/11 9:05 pm - Burlington County, NJ
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Jackie
Multiplepetmom

on 7/27/11 10:00 am
 

once upon a time I had a group to talk about Binge Eating Disorder, and later one about Clean Eating.

PM me if you are interested in either of these.

 size 8, life is great
 

MsBatt
on 7/27/11 11:06 am
Cool owl! I used to have an owl nesting in my cedar tree, but I moved.
Jackie
Multiplepetmom

on 7/27/11 11:58 am
 I think it is a Great White Owl, one of which I have actually seen and it was WAY cool.

this was in northern Minnesota at about 5 PM Christmas Eve - so pitch dark!  it took off from a tree and was huge and absolutely silent. never forgotten although it's been decades.

once upon a time I had a group to talk about Binge Eating Disorder, and later one about Clean Eating.

PM me if you are interested in either of these.

 size 8, life is great
 

Amy Farrah Fowler
on 7/28/11 4:29 am
I hit a horned owl last year on the highway at night. He was apparently eating something at the edge of the lane, and flew up and into the lane right as I was about to pass.

He looked dead, but might be breathing, so I put him in the back of the car, and called the closest wildlife rescue place which is an hour and half away (I used to volunteer there, so even had the number in my speed dial still). 

I'm sure you see where this is going, but I didn't have a box, or even a trunk to secure him, so he was in the back of my wagon. Of course he woke up after about a half hour, and was PISSED. His wing span was much wider than I am tall, and between the screeching, talons and beak I couldn't get him out of the car fast enough. 

He DlD fly away, but I've worried ever since that he may have still had injuries that needed treating. I felt so terrible, and I'm still not sure which of us was more traumatized.

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