Question:
winning surgery

i won a free lapband surgery. was told id probley have to pay taxes on it. was told if i say "donated medical service" it would change. the company i won from is based in nevada but the surgen and "prize" are in mexico. any one here know anything?? please email me at [email protected]    — q E. (posted on September 22, 2004)


September 22, 2004
Run dont walk from this offer...NO, I repeat NOOOOOOO reputable health establishment would give this for a prize. It is LIFE ALTERERING SURGERY.....Big hug.
   — Kathy S.

September 22, 2004
This has got to be a scam, no reputable doctor or center would give away surgery and services. I would go out of state for surgery but not to a third world country.
   — ChristineB

September 22, 2004
I've never heard of this, but please go to http://www.spotlighthealth.com/common/forum/topics.aspx?m=1&sb=25 and ask these ladies what they think. There are SEVERAL that have had their surgery in Mexico.
   — Helen M.

September 22, 2004
Can you share with us who was running the contest? I would get as many names and numbers as you can, and call the Better Business Bureau in your area and find out what's up. Sounds a little like those "free weekends" at a resort, when it's a sales presentation for something.<br> I hope like crazy this is not the case, but you get what you pay for, right?
   — kultgirl

September 23, 2004
Hi, I'm not 100% sure, but I'd say this is a SCAM!!!!! My line of work involves investigating fraud, (identity theft and credit card fraud). And this definately sounds like fraud, they probably want to obtain as much personal info on you, and probably going to ask that you charge the payment for taxes on a credit card so you'll get hit with a double whammy. 1. Identity theft 2. They capture you credit card# and put fraudulent charges on it in addition to the "taxes". You did good by asking for advice, my best advice is go with your gut, if something feels wrong it probably is. Good luck. :o)
   — vllgmz4

September 23, 2004
I'm with Estela. Don't give them any info. I am a Security Vice President of an International Company based in DC. Your "win" has all of the ear marks of a scam and an attempt at indentity theft. You need to follow up and report this to your State Atty General and FBI. I would also advise the FTC and Secret Service. The Secret Service investigates and deals with inernational email wire fraud. Even if you recieve free medical care - you don't have to pay taxes on it as long as it is medically necessary. The company may say it's based in Nevada, but it could be a just a "mail drop". Haveing a US address doesn't mean they are legit either. Best wishes, Maggie B.
   — M B.

September 23, 2004
I saw that BeLighter.com was running this contest, and congrats on winning it! Assuming this is not a scam, it could be a great opportunity for you. I know several people online who have had Dr. Rumbaut do their surgeries with great results. I agree w/Helen, to go the Band board on spotlighthealth.com and ask this question ..
   — Jeanie

September 23, 2004
The radio station here that I listen to in DFW area gave away 2 lapband procedures in the last year. It was a promotional thing for the surgery center. So, it does happen, just PLEASE research this place before you give them any information.. If all is on the up and up, WAY TO GO!!! Congrats!! :) Just do your homework...Hugs!!!
   — Sothrnbel3

September 23, 2004
I've always heard that if you need to shell out money to get your "prize", then it's a scam. Good luck though... I hope it's true and that they're not just trying to get your money!
   — mom2jtx3

September 23, 2004
Please be careful with such "prizes". I had heard from some of our own patients in Cincinnati that they heard that we were giving away free surgery. Although I always say that I would perform surgery even if they didn't pay me, the hospitals would not stand for it. They are the major reason surgery requires prior insurance approval. Even if it turned out to be a "real" offer having surgery in mexico may negate any insurance coverage for follow up or potential complications.
   — selwynca

September 23, 2004
Although I would not choose a band for myself, I woud have no hesitation in alowing Dr Rumbaut do do my surgery. He is a caring compassionate man who actually IS one of us. He has done many people in our area (before it was legal in the USA) and they are lifetime devotees of him. In the times that I have met him, he's as enthusiastic as he was in the beginning and really cares about his people and their outcomes.
   — vitalady

September 23, 2004
Please check with an accountant or tax attorney. In general, however, "prizes," whether they are lotteries or contests or free cars from Oprah, count as income and are taxes as such in the United States.
   — Kasey

September 23, 2004
Sorry, that should read are TAXED as such.
   — Kasey

September 24, 2004
A "prize" of surgery raises serious ethical concerns. Surgery happens when a doctor and patient reach an agreement, after a careful consultation, that surgery is the only alternative to deal with their problem. A relationship based on trust should develop before surgery and continue afterwards. The surgeon is obligated ethically (and by rules if he is a Fellow of the American Colalge of Sugeons, FACS)to continue the care until recovery. A raffle, lotetry, or whatever completely negates all these components. The possible "scam" issues are simply another reason that this just seems wrong.
   — DrL




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