Question:
how much does gastric bypass cost?
I am having a very hard time with the ins. co. and at the same time feeling very depressed. Can anyone please tell me about how much the surgery is as a self-pay?? How do you go about getting a loan or financed. I dont know is there anything out there you can do. Everyday that goes by it looks like I need to start looking for answers on how to get the gastric surgery. The ins co doesnt care and the dr's office dont seem to care either!!!! — redbone (posted on June 2, 2005)
June 2, 2005
Sherrieann;
I can totally relate to what you're going through. I went through the same
thing about four years ago myself - only with two different insurance
companies. Amazing how quickly the surgeon's office - who had originally
nearly fallen all over themselves to make me happy - didn't want a thing to
do with me, didn't have the time of day to give me copies of my records,
answer my phone calls, or the like - once insurance said they wouldn't
cover the cost of surgery. (Silly thing is, they covered the costs of all
of the pre-op stuff!) It really DOES seem like they don't care, doesn't
it?!
I ended up self-paying for my surgery, too. Only I didn't have gastric
bypass, I had duodenal switch (BPD/DS). I ended up going out of country to
Dr. Aniceto Baltasar - who is one of the world's best bariatric surgeons -
in Alcoy, Spain. A day doesn't go by that I don't THANK GOD that my
insurance DID'T pay - because if it had, I wouldn't have found out about
the DS or Dr. Baltasar. For everything - travel, surgery, etc. - I paid
about $15,000.
Dr. Baltasar is the kindest, sweetest, most amazing friend. I feel so
fortunate to have him as my surgeon - and I'm still amazed at the fact that
he is SO interested in me personally - nearly 3 years after surgery. I
exchange emails with him often, and honestly, we consider him a member of
the family! (He did my husband's surgery this past July, too.)
There are a number of medical finance companies out there. If you go to
www.bodybybaltasar.com, then choose the "links" button on the
left, then choose "Money Stuff" there's a list of those companies
there. I've not used them personally, but I've heard about them from other
patients.
Being a self-pay patient has been a huge blessing - yes, it required a lot
of responsibility on my part to study about which surgery was right for me,
choose an outstanding surgeon, and make sure that I'm proactive about
following-up for post-op vitamins and labs, and copying my surgeon on them.
But, I wouldn't have it any other way. It's been one blessing after
another.
Oh yeah - I've lost 210 lbs, a wheelchair, diabetes, hypertension, sleep
apnea, congestive heart failure, GERD, stress incontinence, etc., etc., -
and gained an incredible life.
Please let me know if I can answer any questions, okay?
Blessings,
dina
— Dina McBride
June 2, 2005
I don't know how different the self-pay prices are from the insurance
costs, but my surgery with all the surgeons fees included came to a little
over $69,000.
— dreamy6501
June 2, 2005
SherrieAnn,
Please, please do not get discouraged. I know exactly how you feel.
If you read my profile you will see that I started out four years ago.
However, after getting denied the first time, I gave up for three years and
went into depression and gained 20 more pounds. Howver, if I had been
persistant and appealed and appealed I probably would have had my surgery a
long time ago. Many, many people with my same insurance did and have been
thin for three long years before I even tried again. Click on insurers at
the top of the obesityhelp.com site and then go to the U's and you will see
how many people United Healthcare has helped, some quickly, some more
slowly. The first thing is to find out why you were denied. Call them and
speak to a Case Manager. Oh and to answer you question about self-pay, it
is can be anywhere from $15,000(out of the country) to $100,000. Something
you need to think carefully about is that you may borrow $60,000 on your
home to pay for the surgery and have complications (even non-serious ones)
and end up staying in the hospital or needing more tests..etc and your bill
could be $80,000-$100,000. It could financially ruin your family.
Self-pay is a big risk. But I know how you feel, I was absolutely
desperate and looked into every singly option. My sister also has United
and was denied because of an exclusion (go to Q & A), sometimes it can
be overruled by the employer, sometimes not(in Texas, no). She is going to
get another United policy through AARP (she is 59). DO NOT GIVE UP. ALSO,
PRAYER IS YOUR BEST WEAPON.
— pammatria
June 2, 2005
Hi,
I am in Alabama and right next to Georgia. My insurance has an exclusion
clause in it, so I went on to plan B. I was fortunate that I had enough
equity in my home to borrow the money for my surgery and worked it out so
that my payments did not "strap" me each month. My surgery costs
were as follows (self pay) Surgeon $6000.00 Hospital $7500.00 and
anesthesia $1495.00, plus $100.00 for nutritionist, $100.00 for
consultation and $100.00 for pschoanalyst. I stay 2 nights and 3 days in
the hospital. All of this is in Anniston, AL. I quit crying when I found
Dr. Freeman - freemanandco.com. I checked with 2 other reputable doctors
in Atlanta, GA and Gainesville, GA and they were each about $10,000.00
higher (the hospital cost was higher). All this to say, I am scheduled for
surgery Tuesday, June 7 and I did not need approval from anyone except Dr.
Freeman!! Good luck and God bless you in this journey.
— Teragram
June 3, 2005
1st, don't give up. Capitol One offers health related financing as does GE
Capital. I also found financing available through my credit union on a
signature loan. With that out of the way let me say this--don't give up on
the insurance. I am an insurance agent in Colorado. My surgery is
scheduled for 6/15 and so far my insurance has approved a limited benefit
only. This is still a plus as in Colorado the hospital and doctors can
only charge me what they would charge the insurance company. While this is
not the same as having it covered in full by the insurance it is a
significant savings. I should note I am having and open revision so my
costs would be much higher than someone who could have the procedure done
lapriscopically. I understand the procedure to be approximately $26,000
for self pay in Colorado. My procedure would be about $40,000 self pay.
With the insurance paying $1500 that would leave me with $38,500 from the
$40,000. However, since the facilities can only collect what they are
contracted to collect from the insurance company I have about $16,000 left
to pay if I don't win my appeal. Appeal, Appeal, Appeal. Get letters from
other doctors. Do you see any specialists such as an endicrinologist,
psychologist, counselor, orthopedic surgeon? Get those doctors to write
letters recommending the procedure for you and submit them to your
insurance carrier. Good Luck.
— randytroyer
June 3, 2005
My insurance United Healthcare has a flat out will not cover gastric bypass
and both the surgeon and employer have told me not to even bother fighting.
It's going to cost me about $25k for surgeon, hospital, and
antheologist(sp?). (I live in Southwest Ohio so not as expensive at either
coast). Think of it as a nice car. The first choice of anyone I asked
about financing was 2nd mortgage on house which is fine if you own a home.
I don't. So it is a combination of loans and credit cards because I
couldn't get the whole amount from one financer. In the end its going to
cost more than $25k because of the interest, but I don't want to wait long
enough to save. I suppose that depends on how badly your health and life
is restricted presently. Best of luck.
— Jenny X.
June 4, 2005
I was lucky enough to have my insurance company pay for mine, but a support
group I have attended in the past had people whose insurance wouldn't pay.
One guy negotiated a flat fee with dr and hospital. In these days of
HMO-PPO discounts, I would think drs would be more than willing to get cash
from a patient instead of hasseling with insurance companies.
— lharbison
June 13, 2005
In my humble opinion, I would start looking for another surgeon. I have
read time and time again that surgeons go above and beyond the call of duty
to get their patients approved. You have to remember, it should be THEIR
meal ticket!
As far as the insurance company goes, ask for their policy in black and
white. They will give it to you. Then follow every one of their
requirements to the letter. They shouldn't deny you if you are compatible
with their standard. Unfortunately, not all insurance companies are
alike...
Good luck,
Julie
— Fireweed
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