Question:
i am still hoping to find encouragement
I have written several times about the frustration and disappointment in my surgery..I know it is my tool to use, and it is my responsibility to take control..I would really like to talk with anyone who is still motivated and driven to do well...I am now to the point where I am so frustrated and sad----and I am only 10 weeks post-op !! I would really like to hear great stories/ideas from encouraging and supportive people...thanks — [Anonymous] (posted on June 5, 2000)
June 5, 2000
Reducing risk of complications
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Rest assured that the surgeons and hospital staff do everything they can
from their end to reduce the occurrence of complications. They stay
abreast of the medical literature and they pay attention to what goes on
with their patients so (unfortunately) All of us have either seen or read
about the vast majority of potential problems. Surgeons use prophylactic
measures (such as antibiotics or anticoagulation therapy) where they
benefit the patient, and remain vigilant for the remainder. Patients also
frequently ask what they can do to reduce their risk, and there actually
are a few important answers.
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<b>No smoking</b> - smoking has a truly significant influence
on your outcome, including the chance of dying around the time of surgery.
Obviously it's best if the patient has never smoked; however, if a patient
does smoke they insist that you abstain from all tobacco products for at
least one month prior to surgery. Following surgery it's best if the
patient never resumes smoking, but that is not a primary issue between the
surgeon and the patient.
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<b>Get out of bed</b> -
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after tobacco freedom, the most important influence a patient has on
outcome is to get moving around the ward as soon as (and as much as)
possible following the surgery. The surgeons will do their best to control
the surgical pain, the nursing staff will assist, and they aim for the
patient to be walking out in the hallway on the afternoon of surgery or as
I did in the ICU 8 hours after surgery. The main important benefit of
this plan is to restore normal circulation in the veins of the legs, but it
also helps lung function, maybe gut function, and overall attitude.
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<b>Mental preparation</b>
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try to approach the surgery as the beginning of a whole new phase in life.
The Gastric Bypass procedure is a watershed event in life; if the patient
approaches it with thorough education and with determination to make the
best of the opportunity, the chances of success are high. If the patient
slides into the operation and aims for it to have minimal impact on his/her
life then the prospects are not as good. One concrete thing that a
prospective patient can do along these lines is actually practice the
gastric bypass diet. I did this few days before..This will give you a
practical idea of what you're getting into, with the side benefit of some
weight loss. Also, there is some "soft" data that suggest that
risks are lower for patients who come into a gastric bypass having lost
5-10 pounds, versus those who have eaten many "last meals" in
preparation for the surgery. I chose not to have the LAST meal I drank
broth two days prior to surgery.. I'm not saying that's why I had no
complications, only that I chose to go this way to maximize my
chances..Another practical suggestion for mental prep is to attend a
monthly gastric bypass support group - much can be learned from other
patients that the surgeons and staff cannot teach. AMOS was an excellent
tool for me..
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Comparison of these risks to no surgery
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Taken as a group, patients who undergo gastric bypass surgery do better
than equally heavy people who work hard on nonsurgical means of weight
loss. Because surgical weight loss tends to be successful and nonsurgical
weight loss tends not to be, the risks of the gastric bypass are outweighed
by the benefits obtained in terms of improvement/resolution of the many
medical problems for patients considered as a group. This has been
statistically demonstrated to be true. This fact is the main reason that
I had this surgery I tried many diets and weight loss programs each time
with some weightloss, however, gaining it back. This yo-yo weight loss is
not only dangerous physically, the mental anguish is crippling.
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I know I'm only 5 months post-op, but, I can truly say this surgery
saved my life with no doubt in my mind.. I have lost 115 pounds as of
June 4th, I feel better than I have in many years.. No longer on any blood
pressure medication, no longer diabetic, no longer in congestive heart
failure, I have not had any more asthma attacks, I no longer have
urinary incontinence, I can go on and on .. The plus side and mind you
this was not my main concern when I decided to have this surgery, is that I
have went from a size 5x to a normal off the rack size large.. :-)
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An excellent source of information on the risks of surgery is on the
website for the American Society for Bariatric Surgery. (www.asbs.com)
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Visit my profile page for more information, links and recipes..
— Victoria B.
June 5, 2000
I am so sorry to hear that you are feeling so down and lost about your
surgery. I don't have a fantastic,way out there story to tell but I can
tell you that this lost fat little girl has been found and is well on her
way to being let go free.
I started out being a fat child. I didn't get that way until I was
molested by my father's brother. I grew up to be a fat teenager, one who
always got picked on, who never had boyfriends and was always tagging along
with my skinny friends and their boyfriends. I grew into a fat woman,
found my wonderful husband who fell in love with me for all of my 200+
pounds. But I had this little girl who was struggling to find some kind of
sanity in her insane world. My world has revolved around food and my
weight for all my life, it had turned me into a miserable woman. I was
such an unhappy person that it was seeping over into other aspects of my
life. Case in point, when someone made me mad, say at a grocery store.
Instead of keeping a cool head, I felt the need to berate the person and
try and make them feel as small and miserable as I felt. I honestly
believed I was "done wrong" because I was obese. When in all
reality, it probably didn't have a thing in the world to do with my weight.
I thought I could push someone around with my weight, and by being loud
and obnoxious, I thought it would work they would listen to me because I
was big and loud. NOPE was I seriously wrong. When I reflect back on this
time in my life, I was so miserable, I was trying to make everyone else as
miserable as I felt. If that meant being a bully then so be it, I thought
it worked like that. Since having surgery, things that would have made me
"furious" a year ago, tend to roll off my back now. I am so
happy!! Emotionally, I cannot tell you all of the improvements I have
made. I am totally convinced that my happiness stems from the fact that I
am not carrying around that scared little girl anymore. She weighed 113
pounds and I have lost her forever. I am a confident beautiful 135 pound,
size 12 woman, who has a wonderful loving SUPPORTIVE husband and 2 very
handsome little boys. I was on the verge of losing all of that had it not
been for my surgery. Not only did surgery save my life physically, it
saved my life emotionally. It saved a marriage that was being torn apart
by my hands, due to all the hurt and frustration I felt as a 251 pound
woman. Please don't feel too discouraged, you are in a period of mourning.
You are mourning the loss of a coping mechanism you have had for so very
long. It's very natural to mourn the loss of our ability to eat our way
through a tough time, and this is a very tough time. Understand that no
matter what, you are loved and supported here. We may not be able to be
with you physically, but we are here, virtually. I can email you and
encourage you and be your support person, that I can promise. No matter
what, someone will be more than willing to walk with you through this rough
and tumble time you are having. Good Luck Sweetie, and please feel free to
email me anytime, I will get back to you the same day generally. My email
is [email protected] Hugs and loves... =)
— Marni
June 5, 2000
Hi. I have very little to add to the great words already expressed to you,
except to let you know that I am feeling compassion for you, and can relate
to your depression. It is very common to have feelings of wonder if you
did the right thing, post op. These feelings will subside as you begin to
see the drama of the weight loss, and the realization that you can be
satisfied from so little food, rather than the point of missing the
amounts, still. Also, as you begin to regain your stamina it will be a
huge difference for you. You are still very early n your journey. Please
don't give up. It will get better. It will. Above all else, know that
you are never truly alone. I can promise you that much.
— lisadiehl
June 5, 2000
At only 10 weeks out please hang in there, I promise it does get better. I
am over 7 months post from a Lap proximal RNY. The first few months were
tough for me since I had trouble eating and my energy seemed to stay fairly
low. I had read all these posts of folks feeling great and I just wasn't
having that experience. Now at 7 months I do feel great. I have lost 97
lbs (started at 235) and wear a size 8-10. Last Saturday night I went out
to dinner with friends and we walked to the resturant. The old part of me
was concerned that I wouldn't be able to keep up on the way back up the
hill. Guess what? I not only could walk at their pace, I made it up the
hill with out even breathing heavy. As time goes on you will begin to
notice the little things such as how you can see more of your thigh when
sitting and can easily cross your legs.
One helpful hint that did make me feel better immediately was getting all
the water in me and then some. I found being slightly dehydrated can make
you feel awful.
You will get past this bump in the road. Do not forget to do nice things
for yourself. One good piece of advice my clinic gave me was when you
reach a milestone like dropping below 200lbs give yourself a treat. Just
make sure the treat has nothing to do with your size (such as no food
goodies, clothes etc.) Celebrate every step. This really is a grand
adventure toward a new life.
— Jilda H.
June 5, 2000
Hello, I am really sorry to hear you are so discouraged. I had VBG 3/27/00.
I have done well so far. I have lost 46 lbs. I am in much better shape! I
am riding my bike 2-3 miles for the first time in 20 years. Before surgery
I could not even ride to the end of my street and back. I can walk 2-3
miles which I could not do before. All of this just amazes me because I
never thought I would be here again and I am only 33 years old. I am
encouraged that it will only get better!! I hope this helps! We have to
make an effort and it is not easy no matter how many surgeries you have!
— Laura P.
June 6, 2000
I don't know your situation because I am not sure sure if I have read your
other postings, but I wanted to say please hang in there. Why are you sad
- do you know? Is it because you haven't lost as much as you had hoped?
Or are you mourning food? I am only 4 weeks post-op, and understand you
feeling blue. Just a few days ago I finished a week long bout of it. No
particular reason - it just happened. I do know that I was getting down on
myself for not being able to do enough water or protein, and finding food I
could handle was a bit frustrating. I kept trying to give myself pep talks
to snap out of the blues, and that didn't work. I started reading through
previous posts about post-op depression which is VERY normal, and I also
read of other's experiences with getting all the nutrients in. I realized
I was not alone, and that everything I was feeling was so normal. At that
point i decided to give myself a break and not fret over every little
thing. When I made that decision, the blues went away. I have also found
it good to get back into the swing of things of what I was doing before all
my surgery preparation. For 2 months prior all I could focus on was the
surgery. I was pretty obsessed (but in a positive way). All of my other
activities were mostly put aside. Then when I had the surgery, all of a
sudden I found myself very bored. I knew it was time to resume all those
busy things I am involved with. Also, now I do not always want to think
about my surgery. This site is wonderful, and I love the info and support,
but at the same time, there is a big world out there and many things for me
to experience. So now I busy myself with other things. I have no regrets,
and love the changes that have happened, even in the short time since my
surgery. I don't know exactly how much weight I have lost because I see my
surgeon next week, but I am guessing at least 20 pounds. (I refuse to
obsess about my weight by getting on a scale every week.) But I see it
already in my face, tummy, fingers, chest, feet, and butt. My necklace
that I stopped wearing at night because it was too tight is now hanging low
around my neck. My clothes fit better. I can't feel my heart beating out
of my chest any more. And soon I will be talking to my PCP about
discontinuing my diabetes meds. Even with a few bumps here and there, I
believe things are going well, and I look forward to even more great
changes coming. Please feel free to e-mail me privately if you would like
to chat further. Just hang in there, and try to keep a positive outlook.
We are here to support you. [email protected] :):):)
— Paula G.
June 6, 2000
We have so many posters gals and guys on here to show you the proof is
in the pud..Read all the success stories on each profile page..
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Below is some excellent information from a surgeon that does open
divided RNY and Lap RNY..
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Gastric Bypass, Roux en-Y
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http://www.electriciti.com/acswc
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We consider <b>Gastric Bypass to be the premium operation, offering
the best combination of maximum weight control, and minimum nutritional
risk. </b>
<b>The Gastric Bypass, Roux en-Y is considered the "gold
standard" of modern obesity surgery</b>- the benchmark to which
other operations are compared, for evaluation of their quality and
effectiveness. Our group has experience with over 3500 of these procedures,
and we have striven to refine our techniques and methods to produce the
maximum sustained weight loss achievable. ( I can sure attest to that I
have lost 115 pounds in less than 6 months ;-)
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This operation achieves its effects by creating a very small stomach pouch
(thumb-sized, actually), from which the rest of the stomach is permanently
divided and separated. The small intestine is cut about 18 inches below the
stomach, and is re-arranged so as to provide an outlet to the small
stomach, while maintaining the flow of digestive juices at the same time.
The lower part of the stomach is bypassed, and food enters the second part
of the small bowel within about 10 minutes of beginning the meal.
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There is <b>very little interference with normal absorption of
food</b> - the operation works by reducing food intake, and reducing
the feeling of hunger. The result is a very early sense of fullness,
followed by a very profound sense of satisfaction. Even though the portion
size may be small, there is no hunger, and no feeling of having been
deprived: when truly satisfied, you feel indifferent to even the choicest
of foods. Patients continue to enjoy eating - but they enjoy eating a lot
less. (I have the same mind-set satisfaction at eating 3-4 ozs of food
as others do eating pounds of food)..
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The Gastric Bypass provides an <b>excellent tool for gaining
long-term control of weight, </b>without the hunger or craving
usually associated with small portions, or with dieting. <b>Weight
loss of 80 - 100% of excess body weight is achievable for most patients,
and long-term maintenance of weight loss is very successful </b>--
but does require adherence to a simple and straightforward behavioral
regimen. (which is what I wanted but didn't have the tool to do it
until RNY)
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I'm an Open Divided Proximal RNY on 12/8/99: Beginning weight 367 Now
252 that's 115 pounds gone forever and proud to say RNY is the GOLD
STANDARD in my books as well as the NIH consensus report.... I don't
have to worry about malabsorption or vitamin deficiencies.. All my blood
work has been perfect!!!! Surgery type is your choice. Do your research
and be wary of a candy coated world some discribe.. all surgeries have
pros & cons.. it makes me nervouse when we don't hear the good,
bad and the ugly.. I think this site does very well informing you of
all the pit falls and risks as well as the MANY PLUSES on RNY.. I guess
it's up to you to dig out the pitfalls and risks on all other surgery
types if they don't seem readily available.. People do your REASEARCH
there is a multitude of information out there..Here on AMOS go to Keyword
and type in a search word for what ever you're looking for.. also tons
of links on my profile page.. If you have any questions please feel free
to email me any time..
— Victoria B.
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