Question:
held hostage by my cpap machine....

I finally received my prescription for the cpap machine when the company informed me that my insurance co. us health care aetna doesnt cover the machine . i have only a couple of options one. call the company and request special coverage for the machine or try to see if my veteran status will get the machine thru the va or pay for it out of pocket which im not in a position to pay for at this time . my tentative date is july 29th and i cannot get a clearance letter from my pulmonary dr. with out having been on the machine for a week or two can any body help me .signed trying to get a date of surgery before the end of the month.before my surgeon goes on vacation.    — curt P. (posted on July 5, 2002)


July 5, 2002
I just got a new BiPap and it cost 1800.00! Luckily it was covered. You must be so stressed! I'd do both if I was you. Request coverage and try thru VA. Good luck! :) Sandi
   — goodgal

July 5, 2002
From the Aetna US Healthcare Site (http://www.aetna.com/cpb/data/CPBA0004.html - Coverage Policy Bulletin 4 - Obstructive Sleep Apnea & Treatment) CPAP is covered as DME [durable medical equipment] for the treatment of OSA when either of the following criteria are met: Sleep Study Results: Patient's Apnea-Hypopnea Index (AHI) (also called the Respiratory Disturbance Index or RDI) is greater than 15; OR AHI > 5 and < 14 and one or more of the following are met: 1) Excessive daytime sleepiness (documented by either Epworth >10 or Multiple Sleep Latency Test (MSLT) <6); 2) Documented symptoms of impaired cognition, mood disorders, or insomnia; 3) Documented hypertension (systolic blood pressure > 140 mmHg and/or diastolic blood pressure > 90 mmHg); 4) Documented ischemic heart disease; 5) Documented history of stroke; 6) Greater than 20 episodes of oxygen desaturation < 85% during a full night sleep study, or any one episode of oxygen desaturation < 70%. Note: The AHI (Apnea-Hypopnea Index) is equal to the average number of episodes of apnea and hypopnea per hour and must be based on a minimum of 2 hours of sleep recorded by polysomnotraphy using actual recorded hours of sleep (i.e., the AHI may not be extrapolated or projected). For purposes of this policy, apnea is defined as a cessation of airflow for at least 10 seconds. Hypopnea is defined as an abnormal respiratory event lasting at least 10 seconds with at least a 30 percent reduction in thoracoabdominal movement or airflow as compared to baseline, and with at least a 4 percent oxygen desaturation. BiPAP, DPAP, VPAP, and AutoPAP are covered as DME for patients who are intolerant to CPAP. These alternatives to CPAP may also be covered for OSA patients with concomitant breathing disorders, which include restrictive thoracic disorders, COPD, and nocturnal hypoventilation. Aetna covers humidifiers for positive airway pressure devices. However, heaters for these devices have not been shown to be of clinical benefit and are considered not medically necessary and are not covered. Consistent with Medicare Part B guidelines, supplies (e.g., mask, hose, rings, and seals) are covered that are necessary for the effective use of a covered positive airway pressure device. Aetna covers replacements, repairs and maintenance of durable medical equipment that is not provided for under a manufacturer's warranty or purchase agreement when it is functionally necessary and appropriate. Upon individual review, positive airway pressure devices may be covered as a form of noninvasive ventilation for patients with lung disease without OSA. Requests for these devices for noninvasive ventilation of patients with lung disease should be forwarded to the medical director for review. **********So, what I would do is find out WHY Aetna-USHC won't cover the machine (did you not meet one of the criteria). If you met the criteria as listed, then I would appeal the decision - quoting their own CPB. Hope this helps. PS - I had BC/BS at the time I got the CPAP machine. My doctor at the time documented that this was going to be a long-term condition, so BC/BS bought the machine for me vs renting it. Maybe while you are working the insurance issue, you may be be to rent a CPAP machine for a month or two. You'll have to pay for the supplies like tubing and nose plugs/mask, though.
   — John Rushton

July 5, 2002
Curt - I work for a DME company that supplies CPAP machines - if your insurance denied, it was most likely due to the results of the sleep study. If you met Aetna's criteria and they still denied then it is possible the company that submitted the authorization request did something wrong. The usual ins co criteria is 30 episodes of apnea in 6-7 hours of recorded study time. Medicare just changed their rules on that to allow for an apnea-hypopnea index or RDI of 15 or greater which is MUCH more lenient. Call and ask Aetna if they go by MEDICARE guidelines - most insurance companies base their rules on those guidelines - if they say yes then you stand a better chance if/when you decide to appeal the denial - which you most certainly should do. I have had our patients get denied in the past when they didn't meet the medical necessity criteria and then they end up getting approved when they appeal - you need to have your physician write you a letter to submit to them and you also need to write your own appeal letter - one that tells them of all the problems you are having pre-CPAP, and all the benefits you will have if you are able to use the device. Make sure you get a copy of your sleep study to submit also - you also might be interested just to read it - it might shed some light on some of your sleep problems and let you know how severe you really are. As a last resort -you could ask for private pay arrangements - we do them for our patients and we give them a great discount as long as they don't forget to make the payments. You might be able to buy a machine on the internet fairly cheaply also - but then you won't have the benefit of a company to set the pressure for you and to properly fit your mask (and masks can cost up to $200 each!) Ask the DME company if they have any "demo" masks to sell you - we sometimes have to open 3 mask packages to do a fitting on a patient - and once the package is opened we can't sell that mask as "new" anymore. Also ask them if they have any used machines they can sell you - CPAP's can last for as long as 5-7 years if you take care of them - and most returns are from short-term patients who became non-compliant and gave up. If you need any more help, feel free to e-mail me - I'll do what I can. Good Luck!
   — Kim A.

July 5, 2002
I am not sure why Aetna would do that. If you have had a sleep study and you are defenitly diagnosed I don't get it. I have Aetna and I was approved and they bought and paid for the entire machine. If you are going to have surgery by the end of the month do you still need the cpap machine? I have mine, rarely use it. I am tired still during the day but I am having surgery on Aug 13 and that stupid machine bugs me so I always rip it off in the middle of the night without even noticing it. Anyways, call Aetna and find out what the heck is going on!!! Good Luck...hugs
   — Michelle J.

July 6, 2002
Curt, if the insurance company refuses to pay for your c-pap, which sounds crazy in the first place, then please contact your local VA office. They may be able to help you in many other ways too. That's what they are for, and I am a firm supporter of our nation's veterans, no matter when or how they served. As a matter of fact, I would just go ahead and contact them now! Good luck! Ginger
   — Ginger N.

July 6, 2002
This answer is to Kim who posted below about CPAP machines lasting 5-7 years if you take care of them. I must take *extra* good care of mine since I got it back in 1993 and it's working just fine...
   — John Rushton

July 6, 2002
I had to rent my cpap because my Kaiser insurance did not have DME (durable medical equipment) coverage. The cost was $66.00 a month. I rented the machine from January 2002 until just about a month after my surgery (May 2nd 2002). My sleep apnea was GONE after I lost the first 30 lbs. If you end up having to rent, I hope you'll be this lucky. But I also agree, check with your VA first. It would be so helpful if they could cover it. $66.00 a month isn't cheap. Hugs, Joy
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