Question:
I am losing weight verly slowly

I need help I am frustrated.I had surgery in nov 03 I have only lost 60lbs.I started at 281 lbs. the surgeon told me I am considered a failure because if the weight is not lost in the first 6-12months the window of opportunity is closed. I try to get my protein in but it feels so heavy so I have switched to soups,cream of wheat and milk. My protein level is 7.2 according to my bloodwork and I have been having dizziness and headaches that gatorade helps.My b-12 is good it was 1500. I would appreciate any help I dont want to see the surgeon again because my weight has still not budged and I am always very tired. When does the weight loss officially end.    — D J. (posted on August 4, 2004)


August 4, 2004
Dear D. I started out 5'3" 230. Only got down to 160 and I'm almost 2 years out. However, I feel good. Please consult another doctor, perhaps an internist, endocrinologist or other bariatric surgeon. You should not be feeling dizzy. This is not normal. In addition, that doctor who called you a failure should rot in hell. I don't blame you for not going back to him. He sounds like a jerk. Your window of opporunity to lose weight is never over. It just will take more effort. The South Beach Diet got me losing again. I'm just concerned that you don't feel well. Best of luck. Hang in there. Hang on to the fact that your -60 and I'm sure that feels better than pre-op.
   — [Deactivated Member]

August 4, 2004
D, at 3 years post-op, I can still lose weight if I put my mind to it. While it's true that you will never lose weight faster than the first year or two, you can still use your tool to lose after that point. Have you read the pouch rules? It mentions in there that if your stoma is too small, it's difficult to eat solid food, and people will eat soft foods which will not help them stay full, and that will damage their weight loss. I think that may be what is happening to you. You need your protein. I would find someone to do a scope and see what the diameter of your stoma is. Your surgeon should be helping you with this! Don't let him intimidate you. Here's the address for the pouch rules if you'd like to check them out: http://www.mehtabariatriccenter.com/pouch_rules_for_dummies.htm
   — mom2jtx3

August 4, 2004
I would think there may be something wrong w/ your mechanics. Are you able to eat too much at one sitting? You should not be able to eat much if your pouch was made correctly and your stoma is not stretched out. <p>The surgeon amazes me in that he doesn't at least have you checked to find out if there are any mechanical problems w/the surgery. Perhaps he is afraid to find out he may have botched the surgery and doesn't want to know, and more importantly--doesn't want YOU to know. If he can make you believe its your fault, then the heat is off him.<p>So, first things first--get your mechanics checked. Secondly, after mechanical failure is ruled out, ask yourself if you are eating correctly. It sounds like you have resorted to high-calorie liquid foods rather than dense proteins, veggies and fruit. Are you grazing all day? <p>If you are doing everything right, then perhaps you should look into getting a revision. If you want maximum weight loss and maximum long-term loss results, look into a DS revision. There are some very skilled DS surgeons who are doing revisions from failed RNYs here in the states as well as overseas. I wish you the best.
   — artistmama

August 4, 2004
I wouldn't worry about the weight as much as the health. The weightloss ends when you want it to. If you are exercising daily, drinking your water and getting in your protein, you can be 5 years out and still lose. I have stopped losing because I developed anemia, which made me tired and I didn't want to workout. But I know I have to get back to working out if I want to lose the rest of this weight. I need to lose at least another 50 lbs.
   — mrsmyranow

August 4, 2004
Oh my gosh! Finally I don't feel alone. I too had surgery on November 3 and I too have only lost 60 lbs. I feel so different than most after this surgery. What a strange thing that we both have the same surgery date and pounds lost.
   — Diane S.

August 4, 2004
I was 238 when I had surgery on 09/25/04. I am currently at 156. Still have about 12 pounds to go to reach my revised goal but over the last few days, I have found it is VERY easy to eat fruit rather than make myself stick with the protein. I've always been a fast eater and I find that I can eat fruit and veggies very quickly and get on with my life. Eating dense protein takes longer and it doesn't take very much for it to feel VERY heavy in my tummy. I don't think there is a thing wrong with me mechanically, just think it's easier for me to leave off the protein and go with the softer, faster stuff. I've been at the same weight for about a month so today, I started recording everything I eat and I'm going to make sure I take the time to sit down and slowly eat the protein. I know I'd never lose or maintain on soups, cream of wheat, milk, etc. unless they had protein mixed into them. They go down too fast and I'll be hungry, or think I am anyway, in less than an hour. I would agree that the doctor is a jerk for telling you you're a failure. I'd have jumped right on him if he said that to me because, if I'm paying, he's my employee, I don't care how arrogant he/she is. He's probably not going to be too much help to you even if you choose to go back to him though as long as you're not getting your protein, water and exercise in. The key, as I know you've heard, is protein, water, exercise and the right supplements. Headaches and dizziness that are relieved by gatorade sounds like it could be from dehydration or maybe a potassium deficiency. Good luck to you in getting to feel better. You should not always be tired if all your levels are correct.
   — scbabe

August 4, 2004
You need to eat less or exercise more. I would recomend both to pick up the weight loss. I have only been out for 8 wks so I don't know what to tell you other than eat less & exercise more...Good luck.
   — juju524

August 4, 2004
I am also a slow loser. I had surgery septemmber 25, 2002 I started out at 373 and now I qm at 290. I know I do not exercise like I should. But of course I had other issues too like a open sore on bottom of foot (even before surery) and I broke my ankle. And I know I graze a litle too much trying to get protein in. So you are not alone
   — missturtle

August 4, 2004
I have a big problem with that doctor calling you a failure! We are made to feel bad about ourselves most of our lives because of our weight and now you have a person who is suppose to be on "our side", calling you a failure? Where does it end? If he had a little more compassion for your situation and less worried about the statistics, then maybe he could have worked with you on other ways to lose more weight...oh my goodness, what an inconsiderate idiot! You have lost 60 lbs - be happy and now go back to the basics and lose some more - until YOU are happy with what you have lost! We are on your side!! Danette
   — Danette C.

August 5, 2004
I might sound a little harsher than the other posts, but it sounds like you are not giving much info to work with. How is your iron? Are you anemic?<br><br> This is a big one though: "soups, cream of wheat, milk." <br><br> Frankly, at over six months post-op, this is not the best way to be eating. These three items alone have a lot of milk/sugar, and you aren't getting enough protein for your buck. If you don't like the protein you have, get some samples. From one supplier (vitalady.com) I just got 10 different kinds of vanilla alone. There are dozens of brands, and you can try them one at a time. And there are so many food sources that are not filled with milk sugar where you can get some protein.<br><br> Gatorade has kind of a lot of sugar in it too. If that is breaking your dizziness, you need to figure out WHY. What is in it that makes you feel better? Are your blood sugars bottoming out, or is it the hydration? <br><br> Does your surgeon have a nutritionist? I would start with keeping a two-week food journal, and an exercise journal. Then get to a nutritionist and see if you can develop a better plan. <br><br> If nothing else, you should read "The Pouch Rules For Dummies", which gives some really sound advice.<br><br> As someone who was on a 6-month plateau at 18 months post-op, weight loss doesn't HAVE to end, ever. It can be as simple as finding a balance between when you input (food) and what you output (exercise).<br><br> I wish you well.
   — kultgirl

August 9, 2004
I do not agree that should not ingest cream of wheat and soups, and I do agree that you are NOT a failure. Some people lose slow, which my doctor predicted might happen to me. Therefore a full Thyroid function work up was done and I was put on Synthroid (this has to be given in small doses until they find the does that is right for you). If this hormone is not the "culprit" then go to a endocrinologist, they are usually good at figuring out what and how your metobolic rate is working or not working. And POOH on your doctor - sorry
   — Anna M.




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