Question:
can this tipe of eating keep her healthy

I have a friend that I met when we both were trying to get this operation.She had her surgury one week before I did a year ago, we both had the same doctor and I am doing fine, no problems at all. She almost died from a massive infection, part of her intestines died that was attached to her pouch and gangrene spread into her other organs. She was in the hospital for 3 weeks and she & her family went through hell.They were very upset that the risks werent explained more clearly and are not very supportive of her now.Her start weight was 267 now a year later its 195. She told me today she mostly eats chips and sweets, thats about it.I am not that close to her but have called her as often as I can to share some knowledge and give her encouragement and she is always eager to hear what I have learned here. She listens, but obviously doesnt understand how importent some things are for her health, like eating protien and getting her fluids in. She wont go back to the doctor who did her surgury, she feels even though he has a good track record,that he botched her operation. I am really worried about what this kind of eating will do to her health long term.How can she stay healthy eating like that? There are so many people who try so hard to eat right and take their vitamins and still have problems getting the protien and what they need in to keep them fit, how can these eating habits not ruin her health after awhile? Has anyone known someone that totaly ignored the right way to eat, what happened to them long term when they continued doing so?    — Shelley M. (posted on August 2, 2004)


August 2, 2004
Well there was a study done a few years back and pretty much said that people who refused to follow regimen acquired bone disease and other health complications long term. She could end up paralyzed or so many other things if her B-12 levels go down which could the way You describe I understand it takes almost two years for Your body to deplete but then it is too late she could have to learn to walk again if she even could. I would STRESS to hear this and other facts of NOT taking Vits. You can search the library for information to take to her. She can also get a malpractice lawyer and see if they think her surgery was botched. Obviously she needs support.
   — Shell G

August 2, 2004
Well, probably as bad as it gets. Malnutrition and complete regain. I'm not anti-chips now & then, just not as an entree. Without some good foods and the right vites & protein supps, yes, your guess is right. Anemia, nerve damage, rickets & osteopporosis are about a sure thing. Potentially night blindness and the inability to heal from even small booboos. It doesn't all happen at once. This can happen to people who adhere strictly to a bad regimen, so what happens to someone who doesn't even HAVE a regimen? I'm scared for your buddy.
   — vitalady

August 2, 2004
Im sure its hard to be in your position. Why not send your friend a gift of a monthly subscrption for WLS from beyond change http://www.beyondchange-obesity.com/ its $20. and it covers ALOT of subjects each month - from vitamins to meals. It may not help her but having it come to her house she might read it...
   — star .

August 2, 2004
Yes, her health will suffer long term. She'll most likely end up with anemia and osteoporosis at the least as these are the most common. Without the fuel and vitamins our bodies need to function, her health will gradually decline. Sometimes the damage is irreversable.
   — mom2jtx3

August 2, 2004
I too had a friend who had surgery with my surgeon 3 months before me. She had complications, I had none. She never followed any of the rules from the start and now she's 2 years out and struggles with 30 pounds of 'fluctuation'. She hasn't taken her vitamins in a year, doesn't even drink water, never exercises, eats whatever, whenever. Sadly, I pretty much stopped nagging her about 6 months ago. I just gave up. She thinks it's a joke that she doesn't do anything right. It scares me to think what she faces long term.
   — Yolanda J.

August 2, 2004
I STRONGLY disagree about getting a lawyer. Her surgeon did not fail her, she failed the surgery. You can not be someones food police. Give her the facts all you can do.. hugs
   — Kathy S.

August 4, 2004
I know someone who never eats right and drinks like a fish. She never attained her goal weight and looks awful. She had her surgery 2 years before me, but I look great (even with many post-op complications),achieved my goals, eat right and exercise. Everyone has to find their own way, and some never do. You can't change people.
   — lconrad

August 5, 2004
She is going to have problems in the future. I work with two women, both younger than me, who had WLS long before I . One woman told me she is lucky to get in 8 ounces of water a day - yet I see her with coffee and pop all the time, and she eats fast food everyday for lunch. She wears a size 2 (her goal) after weighing about 350lbs, She doesn't look good, at all. The other woman told me she told her surgeon she was eating chips and whatever, and when he tried to tell her that wasn't the best thing to be eating, she said she told him she would "eat what [she] damned well wanted to eat". I don't know if either woman takes any extra vitamins or supplements, and it/s a good bet that neither uses any protein supplements. As far as your friend's surgery being 'botched', well, sometimes you-know-what happens! Ideally, no one would have any complications, but it sounds like she had a rough time. She is lucky to have a friend like you who shares knowledge, but, like they say, 'You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.' I don't know what will happen to the two women I work with, but my goals were different from theirs. My goal was to lose weight in order to be healthy, not a certian size. I still need to lose aobut 40lbs., but my PCP is very happy with my health status and lifestyle changes. Sounds like you friend was not really propared for surgery in many ways.
   — koogy

August 8, 2004
I think that I would suggest she find a different doctor. I can understand her not trusting the surgeon who did her surgery (since she feels he botched it). At the very least she should go see a PCP and have blood work done. Is there a WLS support group nearby that isn't associated with your surgeon? I also agree with a gift of a WLS magazine. Good luck!
   — SJP




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