Question:
The new atkins candy bar!!!

Hi all Im 8 months post-op -80lbs. Last night for the first time i tried the new atkins chocolate carmel chew, and it was delicious. My question is i see that is has 17g of carbs, but it says only count 2g of carbs because of the sugar alcohol and fiber takes up 15g of carbs. Is that accurate for a person that does not have high blood pressure, and not have diabetes? I wanted to eat another one but it was really sweet, and i didn't want to dump, so i only bought 1. Also has anyone tried the chocolae royale protein shake? Let me know how it taste to u. I always buy the vanilla and they are delicious. Thank u all in advance 260/180/160    — sexysag37 (posted on November 7, 2003)


November 6, 2003
Hi I do not eat the candy but drink the shakes everyday. I love the chocolate royale, chocolate delight and the strawberry supreme, my fav is the royale and the strawberry. I think they taste great as I have tried many shakes and these are the only ones I like and will spend the money on. I have never tried the vanilla but then again I don't much care for vanilla anyway. For the other part of your question I can't really answer it but it sounds like you are doing well. Bonnie Open RNY 11/04/02 284/151/145 -133 pounds
   — Bonnie C.

November 6, 2003
I've tried the candy bar as well and I really enjoyed it. However, I'm quite a ways behind you-I'm not quite 2 months out yet-and can therefore only eat maybe a third of it at once. So I divide the entire amount of carbs (including the sugar alcohols and fiber) by 3 and it's fine that way. I believe you are supposed to count all the carbs, as the ones they list only have an effect on diabetics or maybe it's vice versa. I hope someone can help you more! But you've done great for 8 months post-op, congratulations! By the way, I've tried the chocolate royale shake and don't like it. I buy Le Carb chocolate milk, sweetened with Splenda, and add the unflavored protein to it, and blend it with ice...it's awesome, no protein flavor to it at all!
   — jenn_jenn

November 6, 2003
Hello, I have been following the Atkins plan and if you are following a low carb high protein diet than the amount of carbs you count are the net carb. If you are not following such a plan are probably eating a huge amount of carbs. The net carbs are the carbs that affect sugar levels in your blood. The other carbs are from the ingredients that do not affect the blood sugar.
   — Tammy P.

November 6, 2003
sugar alcohols do not act the same way in you blood stream as sugar. However they do have plenty of calories. They don't make me "dump" but they do give me stomach cramps, diahrea, and really wretched gas. This is a common side effect of sugar alcohols, and really is about as unpleasant as dumping and probably worse for the people around me with the gas..
   — **willow**

November 6, 2003
I meant to add, I find if I eat these things it fires up my desire for other sweets, It may not have the sugar or carbs, but the sweet taste is enough to get me going. I also find my calorie counts are way to high if I eat them, and I fill up and don't get the right protein. since they have little to no nutrition and I am eating for my health and to avoid malnutrition I avoid them as much as possible. (and there is the gas issue, did I mention that?! LOL)
   — **willow**

November 7, 2003
I think Atkins products like the candy are nice for treats once in a while. They satisfy the sweet tooth without doing the sugar damage! The net carbs are what you count. I used to be an Atkins follower pre-surgery. If you counted all the carbs on the label, and not net carbs, it wouldn't be a low-carb diet! I called the Atkins center once about this, and was told that in order to count the total carb content in foods other than Atkins, deduct the fiber grams from the total carbohydrate. This will give you a more realistic picture of your daily carbs. It worked for me pre-surgery, so I can't see why it wouldn't work as well for a post-op. Also, I doubt that you would dump on any of their products as they don't use sugar to sweeten them. Most of them are made with Splenda, which is a great sweetener. I have used it for a while now, and it tastes better than aspartame, and doesn't increase cravings the way aspartame (NutraSweet). Of course, as another poster said, sometimes Atkins products can contribute to diarrhea and cramping. I've never had this happen myself, but have heard of many who have.
   — Carlita

November 7, 2003
I've used the Atkins products too and love the candy bars once in a while. However, the shakes do make me dump. Not always, but sometimes. I think it is the fat content (they do not cut fat in Atkins products). I like the shakes but depends on the day whether they sit well or not. Lisa A 291/185/150 (5/13/03)
   — Happy I.

November 7, 2003
I have used these from time to time and agree that they taste great. For a treat once in a while ... I don't see the harm ... better than the real thing. However, I agree with Willow about the sugar alcohol issue. I can handle a little bit, but if I eat very much at all I have terrible stomach cramps, killer gas, and explosive diarhea (sp). Not worth it.
   — Lynn T.

November 7, 2003
I wouldn't trust the 'net carbs' on those things, everytime I tried items with sugar alchohols when on Low carb diets they always threw me out of ketosis. (thus the sugar alchols acted like REAL FULL BLOWN CARBS to me) Many low carb dieters (atkins, etc) don't trust them and experiece similar results.
   — Patricia T.




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