Question:
I'm not sure if this is normal or not. I'm 5 weeks post-op and I can not

most foods down. I eat slow and chew well, but yet I still end up getting sick. I've even gotten sick of cottage cheese and soup. I don't think I'm eating too much, I stop when I start to feel that lump in my chest. Is this too much? Am I over feeding myself? Today I tried to eat a hamburger patty with cheese and I had 4 bites, not big ones either, and I chewed them very well. All I could think about was chewing well, so I wouldn't get sick and about 20 mins. later, I was in the bathroom. Someone said I might have stonage or something? Is there something wrong? I need all the help I can get.    — Shara L. (posted on June 13, 2002)


June 12, 2002
chew more. You should try to stop before you get that"lump in your throat". Don't worry it get better in time. I had the same feelings at 5 weeks.--- Good Luck
   — Robert L.

June 12, 2002
Try to eat LESS today and see if that helps. Someone posted a little while ago not to eat until you are full, but to eat until you are no longer hungry. That way, after 15 minutes, you will be comfortably full / satisfied. If you are 5 weeks post op, I would suggest 2 Tablespoons of cottage cheese for one meal, 1/4 cup of soup for the other two. If, in those amounts, you can got the day without getting sick, you will have some idea that the quantity, not the food, is getting you sick. I know it's tough to stop at 4 bites. I wish I could tell you your brain adjusts to the smaller serving size... 4 years after my VBG, I would still order too much at restaurants and put too much on my plate. Right now though, measure everything to see what you tolerate. That will help you and your doctor identify what the source of you getting sick is. Good luck!
   — Karen F.

June 13, 2002
Well the other posters are right BUT you are 5 weeks out and that is the perfect time for a stricture...that is the closing of the hole leaving the tummy..you need to call your doc and let him know... you may need an endoscope....... to stretch the hole....... painless procedure.......
   — Sharon F.

June 13, 2002
I don't think it's a stricture but if that comment felt truth for you, follow up on it. I went through the exact same things from about week 6 to week 7 and from asking around, it can be quite normal. I went through a 7-day period where literally nothing except liquids would stay down. I got that same feeling in my chest and I hated it. Do not drink anything as you eat - this helps a lot. I was taking a few sips here and a few sips there and it was tearing me up. One half of an open faced turkey sandwich with a few pickles took me literally 1-hours to get down but it digested well and it stayed down - it was my first meal to keep down. Picked at the turkey and chewed like crazy. A lot of times, there seems to be a lot of worry from other people who frequent these patients - 'have I stretched my pouch' or 'have I ruptured my staples'....I honestly believe that our bodies are stronger than what we imagine. Try different foods - if one doesn't work, try something else. Applebee's Restaurant makes a Santa Fe Salad that I can only eat about 1/8th of but the chicken goes down really easy. It's tender and spicy so it satisfy's the taste buds and it's filling. The lettuce is cut up extremely fine and so are the other vegi's mixed in with it. They have a variety of different types of salads but they all seem to stay down for me - maybe give them a try. Good luck to you -
   — Lisa J.

June 13, 2002
I am totally with you on this. I am six weeks out and I have had a dilitation because I haven't been able to keep anything solid down. When they did the endoscopy they found that the hole was slightly narrowed and that it shouldn't have been causing my problem. As soon as I eat something solid I know immediately that it's going to come up. I am vomiting every day and it's frustrating. My PCP, who is a GI specialist thinks it's possible that during the transection, some nerves were cut and there might be some tempporary paralysis as a result. He said that this happens on occasion when the stomach is transected. I know it's not a stricture because I am able to eat a cheese sandwich without throwing up, yet I am not able to eat egg salad, cottage cheese or tuna, which is much softer and almost pureed. I am just frustrated that I am actually able to tolerate foods less than I couild 2 or 3 weeks ago. I think that our stomachs are still very sensitive to food at this point and that we'll have to continue eating on a "trial and error" basis. I know this probably isn't much help to you but at least know that you aren't alone and that it's nothing you've done. Good luck to you.
   — Michael N.

June 13, 2002
Hi, I am more than 12 weeks post op and I eat less than you. My diet consists mainly of Ensure or Slim Fast shakes,smoothies without those tiny seeds from fruit, crystal light, iced tea, water, no-fat yogurt ,vitamin B-12 under the tongue and for solids, it's usually a protein bar eaten over a period of a few days. (a bite for breakfast and a bite for lunch) If I try to eat solids, I find it makes me throw up. Because I had this frequently I went to my surgeon and had an upper GI series taken. There was no stricture, just a tiny pouch. (which is what I wanted) So now, I relax and try to get the vitamins in I need and take one bite of things instead of two or three. It's hard to change the way you think about eating, but getting sick kind of keeps you aware of how you have to make that change. The last thing I ate and got sick on was 3 raw baby carrots. It was because I didn't chew them properly. After 3 hours of suffering, it finally came up. There as plain as day was a big piece that wasn't chewed. I think everyone is different. So far, I am healthy and lost 75 lbs since my operation in the beginning of March 2002. The solids I can keep down in tiny quantities are health food type vegetables that are baked into chips, olives (don't ask me why?!) saltines, yogurt with granola on top which I chew thoroughly, baked beans, one thin sliced tomato with sour cream dabbed on top, frozen bananas from Trader Joes, etc. [email protected]
   — Joanne G.

June 13, 2002
Tomorrow I will be 6 weeks post op. I have found that I get that pain in my chest/back because I have either eaten too fast or too much and it's almost always followed by throwing up. It's not that I am doing it on purpose, I just need to start measuring my portions instead of "eyeballing" my portions. According to my surgeon's office (the same ones who did Carnie Wilson's surgery), I should only be able to eat 1/2 cup of food (protein) per meal. Do you measure your portions? Also, I am not allowed to eat any red meat or pork until the 5th month. At 5 weeks post op, our tummies are still very tender. Red meat is hard to digest - even when it is chewed very well. Perhaps you could try eating something softer such as deli sliced turkey or grilled shrimp (5 shrimps have 17 grams of protein) instead of hamburger. 41 days post op - 43 pounds lost forever!!!
   — Jennifer A.

June 13, 2002
I would call your Doc. I am 7 weeks post-op today and I just came back from my 4th Endoscopy/Dilation procedure. I get the same exact symptoms as you when my stoma starts to heal closed. I get the tightness in my chest and then I vomit what ever is stuck as well as mucous and foam. I know...GROSS! The Endoscopy is a very simple procedure..don't be nervous. Good Luck!
   — pam29922

June 13, 2002
Shara, try eating mushier foods. Ground beef is hard to digest. Not too much bothered me food wise, but I got sick twice on ground beef at about the 6 week mark. Even now at 4 months, it doesn't digest as easy as other foods, like steamed white fish, refried beans with cheese, stewed chicken or bean soups with meat in them. Try some of those...you should check, too, if you get sick every time to get to your doc. 5 weeks is about the time for strictures to appear if you are going to get them...
   — Cindy R.




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