Question:
Eating ALMOST Anything!

I am about 2 1/2 months out from Open RNY surgery. I have lost 71 pounds from my top weight of 301. I feel like I am doing fantastic, but when I read certain posts on this board, I feel discouraged that I am not eating the way I should be. First off, I completely AVOID all sugar and carbonated beverages...haven't even tried them. But everything else: I have definitely had no problem trying. I eat basically normal food like the rest of my family, just in much smaller portions. I can still only get about 1-2 ounces of food in at a meal. But, I have had pizza, tacos, chips & salsa, bacon, almost any type of meat, all fruits,orange juice, all veggies(except for lettuce which upsets my pouch),all dairy products, waffles w/o syrup, butter goes ok,pistasios, peanuts, etc.etc. etc. Besides eating so very little, I can eat anything pretty much. Is this bad? My weight is coming off great, I am exercising, I am pretty sure I am getting enough protein, and I feel really good. I am so confused though about what exact amouts of carbs,fat, calories, protein etc. I should be getting. Being a busy mom with four kids and going to college full time, I just cant count EVERYTHING, and even if I did...I wouldnt know what to make of it! I didn't want this surgery so I COULD NEVER eat what I wanted again. I wanted it to control me from eating TOO much. Is this wrong? So CONFUSED! I dont want to mess thigs up, so should I completely eliminate some stuff from my diet forever? Thanks! (open RNY 7/23/02 -71 pounds)    — Shawnie S. (posted on October 14, 2002)


October 14, 2002
Shawnee, Hun don't be worried, as long as you don't eat what you aren't supposed to a bit of pizza isn't going to kill you. Remember that we aren't on a diet, we are learning to eat normal..so instead of my old normal of 3 or 4 pieces of pizza I nibble on one piece and don't even finish it. I am much more aware of the startch and crap in the crust and bread so I tend to make sure I don't eat all of one piece. Your doing fine, give yourself some credit! I am just about 3 months out with a loss of 70lbs., I work out at least 3xs a week and eat "normally"..I don't eat cake, candy, cookies, etc., but I know that if I have a tiny slice of junk during the holidays my world isn't going to collapse b.c. I am not eating a whole slice or two or three like before...we are doing it and we are going to win this fat battle!!!
   — Trish R.

October 14, 2002
Shawnie, I just noticed after I posted below that you said you've eaten bacon, and a few other things that you shouldn't...Please, please be careful..those are hidden fat traps..a strip of bacon may not seem like a lot, but being that we are on a 600 calorie (or whatever it is what your Dr. put you on) it really is, focus on eating your carbs..b/c you can sabotage your weightloss, slow it down, stop it or gain if you aren't careful.
   — Trish R.

October 14, 2002
Shawnie.... Don't you worry! You are doing fine. I had my Open RNY on August 7th, which puts me at about 9 weeks. I have lost 66 pounds. I started at 297 and am now 230. My surgeon's post op diet is less restrictive than most. He has us on a full diet as soon as we leave the hospital. In fact, we are given soft foods (chicken and roast beef) while we are in the hospital! Needless to say, he encourages us to try as many textured proteins as possible. If we can't tolerate them, then we try them again at a later time. So far I haven't had many foods I haven't been able to eat. I eat a wide variety of foods. Like you, I stay away from all added sugar and junk food. I eat a healthy diet that is filled with meats, vegetables, whole grains and fruit. Some people say that carbs sabotage your weight loss...but I have to say that the carbs they are talking about are the "bad" ones. I am truly enjoying my fruits and veggies!!!! I am eating more healthy now than I ever have...and it is showing! You and I have lost rather quickly... HMMM!!!! Think there is something to be said about a wide variety in our diet????? I say you are doing everything right hon!!!! Keep up the great work!!!! Be the best loser you can be!!!! Hugs with Aloha, Kathie (in Hawaii).........
   — KathieInHawaii

October 14, 2002
I had this surgery to eat like a normal person, which sounds like what you are doing. As long as you try to get in your protein first. And I do try to make healthier choices. I actually prefer the healthier foods now. Oh, they do have a sugar free syrup that you can eat on your pancake mornings! Taste like the regular stuff! I was able to eat almost anything by that point too.
   — Cheri M.

October 14, 2002
Sounds to me like you are doing fine. My doctor released me to eat anything I tolerated at 8 weeks. I too, stay away from sugar. I have never dumped and don't plan on testing my limits. Always get your protein in first and then the other stuff. I don't watch my fat intake that much cause we don't absorb it all anyway. I try to watch out for the bad carbs though. You really sound like you are doing just fine. Don't worry so much. As long as the weight is coming off, you know you are doing ok. Don't freak out when you hiyt a plateau either. It is just part of this process. We all hate them but they pass. You are doing GREAT!
   — Kim B.

October 15, 2002
hiya! sounds like you are doing fine...i too can eat just about anything i want - just in much smaller portions. one slice of pizza as opposed to an entire pizza - seriously!! regarding the bacon: i wouldn't worry about eating one slice of bacon. yes it has fat but it is also protein. our bodies still need some fats/sugars/carbs - just not the excessive amounts like we ate pre op. i center my meals around protein and i don't worry much about the fats/carbs since we malabsorb and i've lost more than i'd planned on losing and all my blood levels are normal. i eat regular cheese - i don't like the low/non fat cheeses and i figure that i don't eat much at a time. i didn't have the surgery to deny myself foods i like, i did it so i could eat like a "normal" person. i do that now. i don't crave sugar like pre op. if i want something sweet i can have a little and that more than satisfies me. something i could never have done pre op. i facilitate a wls support group and if you ever have any questions or need some info, you're more than welcome to email me. [email protected] take care! kate open rny 6-14-01 pre op: 268lbs goal: 135lbs current: 126lbs
   — jkb

October 15, 2002
I, too, can (and do) eat just about anything. I think it is a bonus. My portions are limited and I do tend to eat a lot healthier now than I did in the past. But I am not fanatical about it. The fact that I keep it simple and loose makes maintenance a breeze. I stick to the "protein first" rule and try to minimize white carbs. Beyond that, I only monitor or spot check when I feel like my caloric intake may be getting out of control. I use www.fitday.com to do that (it's free). I don't feel guilty for anything I eat unless I eat it "wrong" (grazing or using liquids to eat more of it). It is not the food itself that is bad, but the circumvention of my tool. Hope this helps. Oh and I don't care for bacon anymore, but if I wanted some I would have it. You can look at my profile for samples of what I ate at 4.5 and 9 months out.
   — ctyst

October 15, 2002
I don't eat sugar, pop and very little bread. Everything else, however, is fair game for me. I tolorate everything with the exception of rice very well. I think we are lucky to be able to do this. There are people who can't tolorate much of anything. I am 9 moths post-op and down 162 pounds (starting weight 338 now 176). This surgery did for me exactly what i wanted it to, I can eat like a regular person. I don't obsess over food choices or how much i can eat. I eat when i am hungry I do not feel deprived of anything and therefore I have very little cravings. My advice--RELAXE AND ENJOY THE RIDE--
   — Angela A.

October 15, 2002
Hi Shawnie - I tell people all the time that this is the first time I haven't had to diet since I'm a little kid. I can pretty much eat anything I want - I just don't eat as much. The best thing is that I can do it totally guilt-free. The only thing that I have difficulty with is bread, which doesn't feel right in my pouch. You should be very proud of your weight loss! - Mike
   — Michael N.

October 15, 2002
Shawnie, you sound just like me. I too, eat anything I want...I was lucky, like you apparently, that my weight just melted off of me without much effort after the surgery. I had this surgery to be 'normal' and that to me means that I eat what I want, what my family is eating, just in smaller portions. I have recently gotten to the point where I had to up my carbs a little bit because I had gotten down to where I was literally 1 lb away from being a bmi of "underweight"...I recently put back on 4 lbs and am back to my "ideal" weight for my height. If you are doing well with your weight loss, then all the more power to you and good luck!!! ~CAE~
   — Mustang

October 15, 2002
I'm sure someone has already said some of what I will say... but I didn't read all the answers so here goes. <br><br>Just because you can eat anything, doesn't necessarily mean you should, or that its good for you. You don't have to diet, how you treat your pouch and your long term nutritional intake is up to you... that said... my guess is that long term success will mean that you will have to have some control in the future. For me, and this is for ME... it makes the most sense to develop the best habits I can right now when eating or not is easy, and to lose the most weight I can right now by limiting my carbs and fat... and maximizing the use of my tool. When I have to maintain my weight, hopefully, I'll have a few good habits down pat.. and it will help me. <br><br> I think losing weight in the beginning is very easy because it takes a lot of calories to maintain the larger body... and we really don't eat much volume and total calorie wise after surgery. I believe that WHAT you eat will eventually become important... its less so early on.. but for me, I want to count and do the very best I can. <br><br>Did you doctor give you any guidelines, if so, I'd suggest following them to the extent that you can.... and in the end, you must do what works best for you and your lifestyle. We're all certainly busy people.. although I don't have four kids and I'm not going to college full time. Good luck.
   — Lisa C.

October 15, 2002
Thanks for all the responses! I feel the same as most of you...that I didn't have this surgery to "diet" and deprive myself for the rest of my life. I did it to be NORMAL again. I don't think just because I CAN eat anything I want that I actually do. I don't think that a piece of bacon or bite of a cheese puff ever made an obese person. It was a pound of bacon and the whole bag of cheese puffs that did it. I think that it is healthy to eat these things once in awhile, at least for our "mental" well being. Power to those who have the awesome will power to say no to ALL of the "bad" food the rest of their lives. That just doesn't work for me! I do however, with this great tool now have the power to say, "One bite is enough!" and that is perfect for me. At least I can still enjoy things. I have dieted for 26 years of my life and I am sick of saying "I can't have this or that!" It never worked for me before. I would always deprive myself, yet I just got fatter and fatter because of my binges. I dont feel the need to binge anymore, because I feel satisfied with that one bite! I appreciate all your comments...I feel so much better! THANK YOU!
   — Shawnie S.

October 15, 2002
Shawnee thanks for this post it helped me a lot. When I thought about this surgery and the eventual outcome for my life I thought I know skinny healthy people who work out and eat properly but they have their days every so often where they eat something they really want and then resume with the health conscious eating. that is what I wanted for myself to eat to be healthy and have my few indescretions (sp?) That sounds like what you are doing and I am happy to hear that it is okay to do that and be successful. Good Luck Peggy 9/20 -30#'s
   — Peggy A.




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