Question:
second sleep study?

I tried to reschedule my second sleep study because I have stomach bug. they called dr's office and they told me if i didn't get it done today i would have to reschedule. they said i need to be on machine for few weeks prior. I don't understand why. i'm quite sure this will resolve after surgery. i have had 2 open surgeries before this and came out fine. any thoughts?    — bikermama (posted on April 21, 2008)


April 21, 2008
With all due respect, it doesn't really matter what any of "us" think about sleep study, sleep apnea, etc., it's what "THEY" think. It's basically not negotiable. It's just one of the many hoops to jump through...both for insurance and surgeon, in order to get the WLS. The sleep study, for me, was practically worse than the surgery (don't ask me why, it didn't hurt or anything) just a pain in the butt to go through and then get the machine, etc. I had my surgery 3 months ago and I've barely used my c-pap machine since. I may still have sleep apnea but it doesn't wake me up, etc. Also, I didn't even use it during the surgery as they put a breathing tube down my throat (which came out before I came out of anasthesia). Didn't use it in the hospital either. I guess it's for "just in case" scenario.
   — cjjordan

April 21, 2008
My surgeon required the sleep study and I have mild sleep apnea. I was told that he wanted me to sleep with the CPAP for at least 2 weeks before surgery. Even though I only had mild apnea, they said I stopped breathing 12 times per hour. Don't forget that if we have apnea our brains and hearts are being cut off from oxygen. I know what you're saying. It's a lot to go through for something you can ditch after WLS but i think my surgeon is just trying to get me in the best shape possible before surgery. And I will do what he tells me to make this happen. Good luck and I hope you feel better!
   — GlitterGal

April 21, 2008
I'm sorry you're ill, Arden, but I agree with C.J. and Kim. I also had a 2-part sleep study, and was thinking this wasn't a problem. I've had numerous (8, to be exact) surgeries over the last 4 years, and didn't have a problem until last summer. It was a day surgery, and I almost died. Unfortunatley for me I had a sleep study scheduled, but it was for after the surgery. My oxygen levels plummeted to 6p (it should be 90s) and my blood pressure was unreadable. Because of the resusitative efforts I ended up with a partially collapsed lung (which never fully re-expanded) and a severe case of pneumonia complicated with pleurisy. That convinced me to do the sleep study - in my mind just to make sure. The study showed multiple instances of not only not breathing but also several 17-20 second instances where there was no effort to try to breathe. I firmly believe the sleep study saved my life. So, I also think you should listen to your doctors' advice - they get paid the big bucks to know the right thing to do! Good luck!
   — obeseforever

April 21, 2008
I understand your frustration because I too went through the same thing. I actually had my surgery cancelled because I was diagnosed with a very mild case of sleep apnea. They waited all the way until a week before my surgery and told me that I had to have a second sleep study done because I stopped breathing 10 times throughout the night. I was also told that I have to be on the machine for atleast 2 weeks before surgery. I will be starting on the CPAP machine today and will have to use it until the day of surgery 5/22/08. And besides if you don't get the machine the hospital won't even allow you to check in because you have to take it with you. But I know how you feel and I too thought it was a waste of time being as though I have had surgeries without. But hey we have to do what we have to do. I wish you luck with everything.
   — DPURNELL

April 21, 2008
Weight isn't the only reason one can have sleep apnea. Even it weight is your problem I doubt that it will resolve immediately after the surgery. It will take some time to lose enough weight. If I were you I would go through with the study on schedule. Waiting could put your heart at risk, as that is the concern with untreated sleep apnea. Best to take care of your health even if you anticipate changes after the surgery.
   — [Deactivated Member]

April 21, 2008
Don't even get me started on the sleep study and CPAP machine -- both were an absolutely HORRIBLE experience for me. Everything from the meeting with the Cardiologist to the sleep study to getting the CPAP and taking it to the hospital was a pure and total case of ass-covering on the surgeons end. I was "diagnosed" with mild sleep apnea and told that I needed to be on the CPAP for 14 days before surgery. If that was true - it never bothered me before! The sleep study was torture as I got no sleep with that contraption on, suffocating me, and then I had to work the next day. To make matters worse, I was just getting over a small cold, and because of the CPAP, the cough that went with it lingered on until the day of surgery. My doctor almost cancelled the surgery because of the COUGH -- which I insisted was nothing (because it was)! I dragged that stupid thing (it's earned nickname, by the way) to the hospital and it was never even taken out of it's case. I NEVER used it once I got home. At my one month visit, my surgeon said the cardio needed to give the ok to get rid of the machine. Thank god my visit to him was the same day, because I told him that my insurance wasn't covering that machine, and if he didn't write whatever needed to be written to get me off, it would be returned anyway. Sorry, don't mean to show my bitterness on the issue. Just remember....ass covering...and good luck to you.
   — zandeldm

April 21, 2008
Just to throw my 2 cents in... I only had to have 1 sleep study and I too have been placed on a CPAP machine after being told that I have "mild sleep apnea". I ignored the machine for months and then I was told by my surgeon's office that they would not perform the surgery unless I was on it because they would make me use it after the surgery and I needed to be used to using it. Their logic was that the pain medications that they give me (including the morphine and dilaudid) tend to slow respiration and of course make me sleep. They didn't want me to stop breathing while I was on the medications. As for bringing my machine to the hospital, in the literature that my surgeon's office gave me it said to bring it. However, when I went to my very last pre-op visit I was told not to bring it because the hospital would have me use one of their machines. They had my sleep study results in my chart so they knew exactly what settings they needed to use for me. I am 2 months post-op now and I still use the machine. From what I understand, at some point (6 months post-op or so) I will have to have another sleep study and that will determine if I can come off of the machine. By the way, per my daughter, when I take a nap she hasn't heard me snoring any more (I'm down about 46 pounds). Hopefully, I'll be able to come off of the CPAP soon. Good luck to you!
   — dsmuffin

April 22, 2008
Please, get the sleep study done! It would have saved the life of my best friend, Ginger Brewster. The story of her demise is on the memorial page of this website.
   — Hackett

April 22, 2008
It's quite possible that your sleep apnea will resolve after surgery, but you're still going to have it during and for some time afterwards. Untreated sleep apnea increases your risk of high blood pressure, heart attack, and stroke. Any surgery has the potential for complications and so you really want to go into it as healthy as possible. Best wishes.
   — mrsidknee

April 23, 2008
It's not about any hoops you have to jump thru for insurance or the doctor. It's about getting your health to the optimum before surgery. I work in a WLS center and we obtain our patients' sleep study as early as possible in the process because it skyrockets their health! Getting help for sleep apnea (using a C-Pap, Bi-Pap, etc) will bring your oxygen stats up, help you get more rest, and improve your lung functions! What more could one ask for than to have better lung functioning for during and after surgery! It sounds like you have a great surgeon who cares about not only you but your long term health too, and I would do whatever they tell you! Yes, your sleep apnea will most likely be resolved after surgery, but for now, get those lungs in shape. Trust me, it will be best in the long run for you! Best of luck to you!
   — pam2007




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