Question:
Smoking
My Doctor advised me that i should slow -down snoking prior to surgery. I have slowed down but i have not completely stopped. I have 25 days to go and I would like to stop any one out there who can help me? — ~~~Marah~ ~~ (posted on March 30, 2006)
March 30, 2006
wow ..my surgon said STOP NOW ...but i didnt stop that day i have been
smoke free for 11 days ,went to wal-mart and gotthe wal-mart brand nicaret
gum for 25 or more cigs aday its working for me ...it seems like your doc
well still go ahead with your surgery .....my doc said that he would test
me and if i had nicoten in blood he would send me home ..sad face... lol..
good luck hun .with what you do ..
— brenda F.
March 30, 2006
go get the smoking patch it does work I did it.
You must stop smoking prior to surgery it is very important.
Follow your doctor advice immediately please
Dani
— Dani96
March 30, 2006
Beyond all the normal risks of smoking for WLS patients consider this:(
Smokers heal slower get far more leaks and complications.Leakers arent
allowed ANYTHING by mouth, for a long time. Imagine no food or water for
MONTHS:( They get more hernias from coughing, end up on a vent more, and
most surgeons today will not operate on anyone who has smoked in the last
month. They have a bloodtest to check for cheaters. Once your a post op
your chance of getting a ulcer or stricture is greatky increased and these
ulcers are hard to treat, often requiring more surgery. We have a Q&A
poster who has been thru this:( Smoking decreases bloodflow thats why
healing is slower. WLS is all about trying to get your health back, so why
continue smoking? Besides think of the money you can save on tobacco are
redirect it to clothes shopping:)
— bob-haller
March 30, 2006
Boy do I know how you feel. I quit almost 2 months ago and I still have
bad days. The thing that keeps me going is, I know I will be healthier
and I want to be able to heal faster after surgery. Keep your chin up you
will be fine and just keep thinking about how good you are going to feel
when you are healthier. Good luck to you. Tanya
— Tanya1992
March 30, 2006
/sigh....I'm the Q&A poster Bob is talking about. My decreased
bloodflow is from multiple surgeries at the stoma...but smoking will
constrict your capilaries temporarily decreasing bloodflow to your entire
body each time you smoke a cigarette. (this is why most smokers notice cold
fingers a couple of minutes after smoking) Once isn't a big deal, but most
smokers smoke more than one cigarette. It's not just the act of smoking
that can be a problem, but the nicotine in your system. The nicotine is
what causes your capilaries to constrict, not inhaling the smoke. So while
patches are great..you would need to be off them before surgery if you want
to avoid this problem. The other 'bad' thing is actually inhaling the
smoke...this makes it more difficult immediately post op for many people
because the little hairs in your lungs are paralized. Unfortunately it
takes several years of not smoking to regain the use of these buggers. So,
I'm not real sure how much of a benefit not smoking is on this particular
point other than the fact you are no longer adding extra mucous to your
lungs. I quit nicotine prior to my initial WLS, I had no problems
whatsoever after surgery. I did not quit prior to the two surgeries that I
had the following year (No time). I also had no problems following those
two surgeries. However, keep in mind that I'm an exception. Most doctors
and the pulmonologist prior to WLS were surprised to know that I had
smoked. My lungs just didn't show it. Now, having said all of that....the
best way I found to quit are the mints. They give you the hiccups and make
you belch...but you won't want a cigarette! Good luck with your efforts,
it's difficult but can be done.
— RebeccaP
March 30, 2006
Renbecca I have been here over 5 years. You arent the only member to have
trouble from smoking and indeed we had one in our support group too. Its a
sad and has appeared before
— bob-haller
March 30, 2006
~Hi Tamara
I know first hand how hard it is to stop smoking, I started when i was 13
years old and am 32 now (19 years is a long time) When i began my weight
loss journey i was told at my initial consult that i would have to stop
smoking 10 weeks prior to surgery; I thought i could never do it...i
stopped on sept. 30,05 . I used the nicoderm CQ patches and they worked
great for curbing the nicotine craving.You have to want to quit and commit
to stopping by getting rid of everything in the house smoke related, the
worst thing you can do is to just tell yourself your only going to smoke 1
or 2...that will never get you full results. Trust me when i tell you if
you truely want to quit it will be one of the hardest things you'll ever
do. I even still to this day have a boyfriend that smokes right in front of
me and it's difficult, but you just have to keep telling yourself it is for
your health and body. I gained 30 lbs in 5 months, then lost 15 on the
pre-op diet. chew lots of sugar free gum and watch your snacking &
drink loads of water (i did'nt watch my snacking and i almost got my
surgery date cancelled) because my DR. is a stickler for pre-op weight
loss. He told me because of the weight gain i might not be a candidate for
Lap RNY and when they put me under he may have to convert to an open
procedure. I agree with the other posts about all of the damage as far as
healing is concerned, one thing not mention is that w/ the anethesia in
your system if your lungs are not at full capacity you are also opening up
the risk for pneumonia complications as well.....Furthermore, look beyond
just the healing process of the surgery at the outcomes of people who
smoke; you are more likely to have lung cancer, heart disease,
stroke,etc... Just like obesity we are exposing ourselves to the risks of
death. Why would we go through all of this to improve the qualities of our
lives and not take that extra step. I have seen first hand the suffering
that lung cancer can cause, my dad smoked for nearly 30 years. in mid april
of 05' he was healthy, recently retired, and in the best spirits of his
life!!!! @ the end of april he was dizzy and went to see his pcp who ran
tests confirming a brain tumor ( what happens is you get lung cancer and
cancer alway's travels upwards through the blood stream attaching to other
areas of the body) by mid june he had brain surgery,kemo,and could'nt hold
down water. He past july 9th,05. It only took two months to lose his battle
with cancer. Did you know that any damage you have done thus far to your
lungs is reversible?
within ten years of non smoking you will have been able to renew your lungs
to that of being healthy without them ever appearing as if you had smoked.
Think about it ! ( i don't mean to lecture/sorry if it appeared that way :)
I wish you the best in all that you do and good luck, my prayers will be
with you as your surgery date approaches....See you on the losing side (i
am having RNY 4/5/06) feel free to email me if you need support or just
someone to talk to
SMILES :)
— tiffany E.
March 30, 2006
you sound just like me I asked the same question about 3 months ago! :) I
am post op now 1 week and 3 days and I will tell you my surgeon told me he
would not operate if I had nicatine in my blood as well then I ound out it
is impossible to test !! So then I kept smoking I did cut back to three a
day but still smoke my 3 a day but I have been a smoker almost all of my
adult life and I am a usual pack and a 1/2 a day smoker. Dont worry so much
about it jut dont smke the day of the pre op visit or the morning of
surgery.
— TRISCHV
March 30, 2006
Vanessa they can test for Cotine a byproduct of smoking. Members here who
didnt follow their surgeons orders have had their surgery cancelled the
morning of surgery. Sad theres some questionable info these days:( Like
they cant test for smoking or drinking just one alcoholic drink would raise
the blood level enough to show as intoxicated. Such bad info can cause lots
of troubles:(
— bob-haller
March 30, 2006
I just had surgery on March 23, 2006. I interviewed three surgeons. Two
said they absolutely would not operate if I were a smoker. The third (the
one I chose, of course) said I needed to stop and explained why. He didn't
say he wouldn't operate, but he didn't say he would. I used to smoke 1 1/2
-2 packs a day for over 30 years. Ten days pre-op, I got the courage to
put on the patch and come home without having any cigarettes around to fall
back on. It was tough the first week, but I knew I needed to get through
it. My boyfriend was an incredible source of strength (he still smokes)
and my kids were so happy that I had finally done it. I probably gained 10
pounds that last 10 days pre-op, but I didn't care. I needed to stay off
the nicotine. I used the NicoDerm CQ patch and even went into surgery with
the patch on. My doctor, anesthesiologist and others said it was okay to
do so. I still wear the patch (17 days post-quitting) and still need it.
I still have moments when I want one very badly, and if they were around, I
would probably take a drag or try having just one. But I know that, like
dieting, once I cheated, I'd be right back on them again. Try your
hardest, Tamara! Get the patch, enlist your friends support and
encouragement, and pray. Let me know how you do!
— rcgirl0209
March 30, 2006
One of the reasons why they try to get you out of bed and moving around
quickly after surgery is to minimize the chance of getting blood clots
after the surgery - they may also give you a blood thinner such as Heparin.
As is widely known, smoking not only increases your chance of getting
blood clots but also slows healing after surgery. You are having this
surgery to improve your health - you might as well go cold turkey on all
your vices at once. (I smoked for 23 years before my surgery and I ASSURE
you, your sense of pride in losing weight AND being able to quit will be a
feeling unlike anything you've experienced before.) I wish you the best.
Look into Zyban (my drug plan didn't cover smoking cessation aides but a
way around this is to have your doctor prescribe you an anti-depressant
called Wellbutrin, which is EXACTLY the same medication as Zyban, and is
generally covered). Good luck!!! Jennifer
— j_coulter
March 30, 2006
I thank you for all of your responses they were greatly needed. I know
that I must stop I must admit i have slowed down I use to smoke 2 Packs a
day. Now I am down to 3/4 which is great to me. Since tomorrow is the
first I feel this is the best time to start.
— ~~~Marah~ ~~
March 30, 2006
I thank you for all of your responses they were greatly needed. I know
that I must stop I must admit i have slowed down I use to smoke 2 Packs a
day. Now I am down to 3/4 which is great to me. Since tomorrow is the
first I feel this is the best time to start.
— ~~~Marah~ ~~
April 1, 2006
At the time i had surgery in 2001, i had quit smoking for a few years
already. however, it was a requirement to quit before my surgeon would do
the surgery. I had to also walk 2 miles a day, which probably saved my
life because i almost got pneumonia after surgery......... If you cannot
quit smoking, i would strongly recommend doing lung excersizes so that you
build up lung and breathing strength before surgery to help eliminate the
chances of pneumonia and breathing complications. Get one of those
breathing excersizers from a health supply store? the one where you blow
the balls up in the machine? hope this helps. PS: I do smoke now..... :(
— Kimberly Felan
April 2, 2006
my boyfriend and i quit smoking the day i went in for my first consult. I
was told bring in a letter from your pcp, a psych, and quit smoking before
you come back. that was a month ago. I was a regular newport smoker since
i was 9 ( i know that sucks) The best thing i can tell you to help
yourself quit is guilt and mints. Thats how i did it. every time i get a
craving i remind myself that if i cant do this i wont be able to handle the
surgery , i am weak if i dont do this, i lack self control if i light one
up, then after telling myself these things i pop a mint. Works great for
me.
— Shelly M.
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