Question:
just how important is protein?????
I have a cousin that had RNY about 18 months. Had the skin removed in Sept and now tells me she doesn't do the protein. Only gets it in what ever she eats that day. I have a sister in law that had it in June 05. She is telling me the same thing she doesn't like any of the proteins and won't do any of them. She has lost over 100lbs. I had my surgery Dec 12, 05. I hate the protein but I am doing it. I want to know what will happen in the long run if they keep this up? I intend to keep choking my protein drinks down. I am going to get the unflavor and see if this helps. But to give it completely can't be good. — pettykash (posted on January 1, 2006)
January 1, 2006
Beverly,
Each surgeon is different. Protein is extremely important, however my
surgeon prefers us to get it through our food intake versus shakes. They
recommend shakes initially because that is your primary source of food. I
stopped protein shakes at 5 months out because I was consistently getting
in 75 gm of protein a day. Keep a record to ensure your getting enough in
through your meals and maybe you can do them every other day or every 3rd
day as you get further out. There is a protein called Any Whey that you
can add to your food that boost the protein. Good luck with you Weight
loss journey.
Denise
— dlryanoates
January 1, 2006
HI, I had surgery on Nov 1st, 2005, I also hated most of the proteins, but
there is one worth trying.. its Advant Edge Carb Control they have 15gms
of protein.. they are premade drinks usually in a 4 pk or a case , they are
in silver packaging.. I also found some granola type bars (for when you can
chew more..) called Q-Smart they are by Quaker, they have 10 gms protein
and can be found near the other granola bars.. you can get both at
Walmarts.. and maybe Sams Club. Best wishes to you, and please just keep
getting in your proteins, if you dont you will experience hair loss, muscle
loss and have a harder time recouping!!! Happy New Year!! April
— April
January 1, 2006
Hi Beverly good for you on getting your protein in south beach has a lot of
foods with protein in them I like the granola bars they have 22 grams in
each one . I also quit my protein because I was just sick of it and about 4
1/2 months out I started to lose my hair I still haven't recovered from it.
I have slowed it down a bit but I'm still losing a lot on a daily basis.
So I work on getting as much as possible in. Good luck
— amygirl
January 1, 2006
Keep up the protien. I have a friend who had her surgery a few years before
mine and she did not keep up with her protein either. The first thing she
did was warn me to make sure I got my protein in because of her mistake she
has lost a lot of muscle tone (her muscles in her arms are extremely
fabby!) Keep track of your protein it is very important. Good Luck and God
Bless.
Laural
— Laural D.
January 1, 2006
beverly I made a mistake about the south beach cereal bars they are 10g of
protein not 22g
— amygirl
January 1, 2006
I am only 2 months out and never did the protein shakes. Infact I'm sure I
don't get the protein I need now. I'm not sure how it will affect me. In
the beginning it was terrible. I was sooo sick and weak but I feel fine
now. I just couldn't stand to drink that stuff.
— jengriggs01
January 1, 2006
Protein is very very important. Make sure you are getting enough. You
need it for hair, nails, energy, muscles and burning fat. I found eating
protein bars is much better then protein shakes. I like the luna bars
which are like 10 or 11g. and zone perfect bars which are like 15 or 16g.
The zone bars have so many flavors. They are really good. I also eat alot
of nuts when I want a snack they are full of protein. Once you can eat
more solid foods you can get protein from many other places not just
shakes. When I do make shakes I use the any whey protein. I make decaf
coffee lattes with it and you can't even taste that it's in there. If you
need any help with anything let me know.
— jjeanniespets1
January 1, 2006
This post is about the posts about The protein bars... Some of these bars
are high in protein but some of them are also high in sugar.. And even
though you need the protein, you need to watch the sugar intake as well..
— mzb2u
January 1, 2006
I posted this to the messageboard, too, but thought I'd slip it in here. I
make my Protein Stack chocolate shake with hot water--it's GOOD! Hot
chocolate! Everything dissolves and I have no problem drinking it.
Protein is important!!!
— Debbie O.
January 1, 2006
I had surgery on 3-25-05 and have lost over 125lbs. I started out taking
the protein supplements, but I couldn't handle them and I tried a host of
different products. I haven't taken them since April 05 and haven't had any
problems. I get regular blood draws to check all my levels (nutrition
levels) and they always come back perfect. I think it mostly up to the
person who has to "choke down" the stuff. My doctor insisted on
protein supplements, and I just told him I COULDN'T handle it, so I don't
take it. There's plenty of protein in the food we eat. Good Luck
— Zimpo
January 1, 2006
— **willow**
January 2, 2006
You didn't say when the bad effects might hit, but thing you would look for
after 2 years might be: loss of hair (not replaced), lack of energy, loss
of muscle and skin tone, inability to absorb oral supplementation, regain,
uncontrollable cravings, lack of resistance to disease.. and of course,the
ultimate would be full malnutrition, which can happen to even those with
the most conservative surgeries. Talk to people who are 3+ years out and
see how they did without protein supplementation. The Grad list is for
people 1+ years out, so you cannot speak, but can read.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG
— vitalady
January 2, 2006
The first year while you are loosing your initial excess weight, protein is
a very important part of your diet. Doctors recomends protein drinks
and/or bars because they are balanced with other nutrients and your body
will profit from all the minerals and the Vitamins in them.
I don't do protein drinks/bars anymore unless I am traveling and I am not
able to have a decent/balance meal loaded with protein and other goodies.
After all these years I get my protein from the food I eat: meat, poultry,
dairy .......
However I always have protein bars at home and in my cars for emergency
and/or I am not able to choose a healthy balance meal loaded with protein,
veggie and carbs.
— Dani96
January 2, 2006
Another thing to take into consideration is where protein is absorbed. If
you had RNY surgery, you have lost the area where we absorb proteins, which
is the duodenum. Theoretically, we get a maximum of 10% of "food
protein" due to the fact that it needs to be digested before it can be
assimilated at all and we have broken our protein digester. The protein
shakes are "predigested" thus ready to go to work immediately on
consumption. I don't do them based on the taste. I view them as my
medicine, and what is going to keep me healthy. There are hundreds of
flavors out there, and you are bound to find one you like, rather than
choking them down. Try samples of different kinds. Whey protein is the
most absorbable of the proteins, thus the best for "us." There
is no way a person can keep their protein levels up *long term* by
depending on food alone. Think of the amounts you'd have to consume, if
you are even getting that 10%! You can eat 100 grams of protein....and end
up with 10 grams that you MIGHT have absorbed. I'm 5 1/2 years out now,
and yes, at times I really wish I didn't have to have a protein shake, but
I knew this going into surgery that it was a must for me. So, on the days
I hate them, I term them my medicine, and not mouth entertainment.
Regards~
Jacque
— Statuesque
January 2, 2006
Proteiin is very important, because if you do not take it, you lose lean
muscle instead of fat! The only one I can keep down is isopure Dutch
choclate, which I mix with Carb Countdown Dairy Beverage, because the Carb
Copuntdown has fewer carbs and more protein than milk.
If they are getting enough protein from their food, they do not need
supplements. I find it difficult to eat enough to get all my protein in,
but my niece, who had the surgery a year before I did (she had it two years
ago), eats enough to get it from her diet.
— Novashannon
January 2, 2006
most nutrients are absorbed in the small intestine (6 meters = aprox 18
feet)
1. The small intestine consists of three sections: duodenum
(first 25 cm=10 inches), jejunum and ileum, absorption takes place in all
three sections
I have aproximately 2 feet or 60 cm bypassed.
after that 2 feet, my digestive juices meet up with my food further
breaking down nutrients and enhancing absorption.
If your jejunum and illeum are fully bypassed, you will not absorb much.
But., Isn't the jejuno-illeal bypass an outdated surgery no longer done
because of the absorption issues? and damage to the health of those
recieving it. It certainly is not the same as my RNY.
Any one who follows poor nutrition is going to be sick and to be honest I
was on a track to an early death preop and irrespective of supps of any
kind I would be healthier now and in the long term than I would have been
continueing on the fat track I was on. I went thru Barix (with 26,000
surgeries performed, over 1500 by my surgeon alone) I was not recommended
to use protein supps for any kind of long term use.
— **willow**
January 19, 2006
Better late than never they say. Just some info for you. I only did the
protein shakes for 2 months and then the surgeon told me to stop and eat
"real" food, which I totally love a whole lot better than protein
shakes or bars. As long as you are able to eat real food, and get enough
in, shakes are not necessary.
Kare
— KRWaters
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