Question:
My Family Doctor said 75% gain all there weight back

I would like to know what you thinks of this, My insurance has just approved my surgery and I am waiting for the doctors office, to contact me. I felt discouraged today when the doctor said 75% would fail this surgery, dose any one know what the % is. Julie    — Julie K. (posted on October 17, 2005)


October 17, 2005
HI, Well IMHO I don't buy that if they did Insurance companies would waste the money to pay for it if the statistics where that high. I know that some do but NOT That many Best Wishes.
   — Shell G

October 17, 2005
YOUR DOCTOR NEEDS TO GET IN ANOTHER LINE OF WORK OR HE NEEDS TO GET FACTS BEFORE HE OPENS HIS MOUTH ON SOMETHING SO MEDICALLY & EMOTIONALLY IMPORTANT. THE OVER ALL STATS SUGGEST THAT 15% WILL FAIL MAINLY BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO ADHERE TO THE RESTRICTIVE DIET. 85% WILL SUCCEED TO LOSE WEIGHT & TO KEEP THAT WEIGHT OFF. OF THE 85% WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL, THE AVERAGE WEIGHT LOSS IS 65% OF THE AMOUNT THEY ARE OVERWEIGHT. SOME WILL LOSE MORE; SOME WILL LOSE LESS, BUT TAKING ALL SUCCESSFUL WLS PATIENTS AS A GROUP, THE AVERAGE % OF WEIGHT LOST & KEPT OFF WAS 65% OF THEIR OVERWEIGHT AMOUNT. WITH THIS AVERAGE ... IF YOU HAD 100 #s TO LOSE ... IF YOU WERE AVERAGE ... YOU'D LOSE & KEEP OFF 65 #s FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. IF YOU WERE ABOVE AVERAGE, YOU'D LOSE & KEEP OFF MORE THAN 65 #s, & IF YOU WERE BELOW AVERAGE, YOU'D LOSE & KEEP OFF LESS THAN 65 #s. BUT, IN ALL 3 SCENERIOS, WEIGHT LOSS WOULD OCCUR & IT WOULD BE MAINTAINED. THIS ISN'T THE EASY WAY OUT. IT IS AN AMAZING "TOOL" TO ALLOW US TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD IN REGARDS TO OVERCOMING HEREDITY, GENETICS, SLOW MOTABALISM, ETC. JUST BECAUSE THE POUCH LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF FOOD ONE CAN INGEST AT ANY SITTING, YOU CAN EXPECT TO LOSE UP TO 100 #s IN 6 MONTHS OR SO IF YOU ARE FAITHFUL WITH YOUR LIQUIDS, DIET, SUPPLEMENTS & EXERCISE. AFTER THAT, THE POUCH HAS DONE IT'S MAIN JOB & IT'S UP TO YOU TO STEP UP THE EXERCISE & ACTIVITY TO LOSE MORE WEIGHT. REMEMBER, THE POUCH IS ONLY A "TOOL". YOU ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR SUCCESS OR FAILURE. YOU CAN "GRAZE" ALL DAY LONG ON CHIPS ONE CHIP AT A TIME & BY THE END OF THE DAY, YOU WILL HAVE EATEN THE WHOLE BAG. YOU CAN GO RIGHT BACK TO THE FAST FOODS, FRIED FOODS, CHIPS & DIP, SODA & ALL THE OTHER FOODS THAT HELPED GET YOU HERE. OR, YOU CAN TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REGAIN YOUR HEALTH, ACTIVE LIFESTYLE & DIGNITY BY FOLLOWING THE "RULES". IT'S YOUR CHOICE ... SUCCESS OR FAILURE.
   — LADY D *

October 17, 2005
What type of surgery was he referring to? That may be true of the old VBG, but not for the RNY (by-pass)
   — mom2jtx3

October 18, 2005
check it out this surgery is not just a quick means of weight loss, It is a tool to help you loose the weight and its up to you to keep it off. He is saying 75% gain it back well its true alot of people do gain (sum) of the weight back as soon as you stop your strict diet. So yes there is some that fail but hey you gotta be strong and not fail and dont let that doctor get you down, I mean most doctors push for this surgery if you need it. whats wrong with your doctor? Or does he just think you need to do it on your own? or go get a second opion.
   — nor_cal_brod

October 18, 2005
Before any statistics should be quoted, the TYPE of wls needs to be determined. VGB has higher weight gain statistics than RNY since there is no malabsorbtion benefit. With either surgery, the pouch can and will stretch..........how much is determined by the quantity of food ingested, as well as liquid ingestion. My understanding is that carbonated beverages can stretch the pouch considerably. My PCP wasn't too enthusiastic about wls, either. I don't believe they (PCP) are really kept abreast of the sucess of these surgeries and they are the ones who treat the problems that may occur, down the road. She mentioned kidney stones and weight gain, but in all the research I have done, most of the problems could have happened with or without wls and there was no proof to support the wls was the cause. Okay, gall bladder problems can and do occur after this surgery for many, but I see that as a hurdle, not a brick wall. I perservered and did all that was required of me, by Kaiser-Permanente. This included six months of nutrition counseling, weight loss classes and gastric bypass classes. I have had a complete health assessment, gall bladder ultrasound (to ascertain if the gall bladder is healthy, now) a thyroid panel and the infamous mental health evaluation. I am an informed patient and understands what this surgery entails and some of the complications that may accompany it, and while I wish it was done YESTERDAY, I am glad to have the knowledge on how to use this tool sucessfully. My suggestion to ANYONE seeking wls is to do your research! Read everything you can find and wls support group and join. Join more than one, even! Talk to people who have had the surgery. Unbeknownst to me, a woman I have known for three years had the surgery almost five years ago and her only regret is not having had it earlier in life. Good luck to you and while getting into an argument with the PCP won't help your case, you can inform the Dr. that you are not jumping into this with blinders on and that you realize it is a TOOL, not the cure. Hope this has been helpful and sorry for being so verbose!
   — LauraA

October 18, 2005
No matter what doctor's say this is a "TOOL" as suggested. If you go into this with the right idea about the surgery and options then you will use it as that. There are those doctors who don't believe in the surgery and that is their right, but for those of us who struggle/struggled with weight loss know that it is a great "TOOL". Those who succeed at this know what needs to be done to get where we want to be. The people who don't succeed are those who have revereted to past behavior and hurt their success and make us look bad. One rotten apple spoils the whole barrel sort of mentality.
   — [Anonymous]

October 18, 2005
My cousins' doc told her (she had RNY) that HALF of those who have the surgery gain it all back. Who knows?? I got the DS and it's got a great track record. Less gain, more lost, etc. I wish you luck on whatever you choose as best for you!!!! We're all in this together and we'll make it!!! Hugs, Tonya
   — T S.

October 18, 2005

   — [Anonymous]

October 18, 2005
read this link http://www.upi.com/HealthBusiness/view.php?StoryID=20051017-110104-7029r
   — walter A.




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