Question:
URGENT WARNING: You WILL start to absorb the bad stuff again!
— j_coulter (posted on March 17, 2006)
March 17, 2006
This is good to know, I am 2 1/2 years post op, and I have been eating much
more, and can handle almost every food-which really scares me! I feel like
I'm going but to old habits. I feel like I need help to get back to how
things were the perious 2 years!
~Cindy
— chicky
March 17, 2006
You are absolutely correct. Building good eating habits, discipline and a
regiment in taking your vitamin supplements daily will help stay on tract
and will pay off in a long term success. I hope many people get what you
are posting. Thank you for sharing.
Danielle
— Dani96
March 17, 2006
Hi,
I'm very interested in this. Could you please cite the published
scientific research that was done to support this theory so I can look it
up? Thanks.
Karen
— Karen W.
March 17, 2006
I found a reference to this from March of 2003. From this information
perhaps you can find the study results somewhere. If you do, it would
probably be helpful to post them: "There is actually a study going on
right now at Mt. Sinai in New York City that is looking at post-WLS
absorption after the RNY and the BPD-DS. This is similar to the results of
the 1998 Scopinaro report on the BPD."
— j_coulter
March 17, 2006
Thanks for the info. I'll look it up and be happy to post what I find. My
surgeon told me none of this but it makes sense. By the way, I looked at
your profile and read about your surgery. You have a great sense of
humour. I guess you got that from your dad.
— Karen W.
March 17, 2006
Not getting in your vitamins and protein and supplements will NOT make you
gain - it will just make your LABS bad. Overeating will make you gain -
which makes the rest of your post right - your body becomes 'normal'.
— star .
March 17, 2006
the consumption of proton pump inhibitors has the effect of causing the
villi to grow and multiply in the colon , it is used to enhance weight gain
in pancreatic cancer patients, but for some unknow reason our doctors ignor
that detail and prescribe like candy to wls patients, its contridictory.
read the lable,off use ,
— walter A.
March 18, 2006
I can not believe that you have come here and actually stated that our
bodies, because of surgical alteration, are growing longer intestines and
that our pouches are growing so that it can be the same size as it was
before. I want to see the scientific study that backs your claim.
However, since you have already skated around the answer when asked to
produce such information, I will only take your opinion as OPINION, nothing
more. I do this at the same time as I form my OPINION that this is bunk
based on the fact that I am over 4 years out and still have a restricted
food intake...and that my mother, who is 30 years (yes, 30 YEARS) post
op(mason shunt) and still has food restriction. If your theory was
accurate, she would have a 'normal' sized stomach and fully functional
(absorbtion) intestines....of which she does not. I appreciate your input
on such subjects, but in the future if you wish your posts to have any
credibility, you might consider quoting your sources.
— RebeccaP
March 18, 2006
— j_coulter
March 18, 2006
Jennifer, I'm not angry...just trying to make sure the truth is clear. The
article you quoted is in reference to study done on certain genes, in
particuar the proglucagon gene (regulator of blood glucose homeostasis), in
an effort to, as you stated, help patients with 'short bowel syndrom'.
However, it is important that you understand that the model these doctors
are using is of someone lacking 70-80% of their small intestine. The
average adult has 20feet of small intestine. In order for this information
to apply, one would need to have 16 feet removed. In general, most RNY
patients have 150cm (4.88 feet) bypassed during surgery. This is 25%, not
80%. While I do agree that our bodies make adjustments over time to what
we have done to them, they in no way 'replace' what has been removed or
bypassed. It would also lend to the belief that the amount of adjustment
would be in direct relation to the amount 'missing'. Is there a certain
threshold the body must meet before undergoing some sort of adjutment? I
understand you are researching this information for your own benefit, and I
applaud you for this effort. I am a HUGE supporter of people educating
themselves about their own bodies and what is happening to them. However,
when dealing with medical information, you must be certain you are
comparing apples to apples and oranges to oranges or the information you
aquire may be worthless. What you have posted is not clear ....to the
casual reader, all it says is .....' medical jargon...intestines
regrow...medical jargon'. (super oversimplified) There are many
half-truths, non truth, and old wives tales that are perpetuated as truth
on these forums, so when someone comes in with beliveable medical
information, I fear too many will accept it as fact and not validate the
info on their own. Something I'm sure you would have issue with. This is
why I stated that if you want your post to be credible, you need to quote
your source. This way your readers can research your source and see if it
applies to them. Since I still have 75% of my intestine...your source does
not apply to me and I can search out other sources that would.
— RebeccaP
March 18, 2006
It all sounds good, but I personally think it is much too complex of an
answer to the way it works. First, our surgery serves one purpose and that
is to re-teach us how to eat. But, we are not amphibions that can lose a
foot and a new one grows... we adapt to new things, that is how our bodies
work. Yes, if we continue to eat protein and limit calories, and avoid the
bad things... we will still lose and maintain our weight loss. But, if we
revert back to our old eating habits..., even only slightly, we will begin
to gain and feel crappy. Thats the way my doctor explains it and it seems
logical to me.
— septembergirl73
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