Question:
protein powder vs bullet protein

I have been taking the bullet (new whey liquid) for the last several months and no problem with them. I did try the powder forms and they all make me sick or taste gross. Last week at my meeting the specialist said that I should not be taking them, as they are pre digesed. I thought we wanted that kind. I am really confused and not sure if I should be taking these now or not. does anyone really know if they are good for us or not? I take 2 a day, but I still have my meals and take all my vitames. Thank you, Cynthia    — babesintoyland (posted on March 28, 2008)


March 27, 2008
Please let me know also... I just ordered 12 Bullets and they are not cheap!
   — Dale Elaine S.

March 27, 2008
I take them and my DR. has no problem with them. Like you, I couldn't tolorate the protein powders. However, there is 42 g of protein in each bullet and I am told you can only absorb 25g at a time. I am only required 80 g of protein a day. If you are eating in addition to drinking the 2 bullets you are getting above your required amount. (At least that's what I was taught) There are also calories in the bullets - so it would depend on how much and what you are eating besides the protein, I would think. Good luck and God bless. C Garber
   — Caroline Garber

March 27, 2008
My doctor approves of the liquid protein bullets. However, I only take about 1/2 of it at a time (morning and afternoon) for maximum absorbtion.
   — AngelaC.

March 27, 2008
I have found the new Proteinex online, and they come in 1 oz servings and have 18g of protein. I was able to buy a 2 month supply from CWIMedical.com and with shipping they average $1.35 each. My doctor has no problem with them.
   — jaxjennings

March 27, 2008
My Doctor wants me to only use predigested protien. I guess you just need to ask your doc as they are the ones that we have to answer to when things are going wrong. Best of success to you.
   — William (Bill) wmil

March 28, 2008

   — UNJURY

March 28, 2008
I was told recently that there is no definite study that states that if you ingest 45 grams of protein that your body can use all of it at that time. I use ISOLATE Protein Powder. 100% Whey Protein. Jennycad
   — jennycad

March 28, 2008
Hi Cynthia, I am getting ready to purchase bullets on the recommendation from my Dr. I'm 20 pounds below my ideal weight and therefore need the extra protein. I'm guessing, like with a lot of differences, it depends on your surgeon. Stephanie
   — Shatcher

March 28, 2008
I too have purchase several 12 packs of the New Whey thinking for less than 3 oz I could get 42gram of protein. I began researching the protein bullets on this Web Site. There is a forum for user to question nutrionist on this web site. I found this information. Check this link http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/nutrition/a,messageboard/action,replies/board_id,5389/cat_id,4989/topic_id,3554041/ Hope this helps.
   — jmatteol

March 29, 2008
your body can only absorb 30gms at a time and the rest the kidneys take care of which in turn can cause kidney damage with prolonged over use/dosaging of protein just be careful and split the bullets into only 1/2 in am and 1/2 in pm. I work with post surgical pts and thats the advice they are given ... hope this helps
   — HelloKittyDawn

March 29, 2008
your doc may be of the belief that you need to get all your protein from food. None of that makes any sense...since your surgery made it so you cannot absorb...but since you force it to...it will regrow those parts so that you will start to absorb again...and the best part of your surgery is overruled. Predigested is the protein that we utilize the best since it doesn't require hours of churning around in a normal stomach with acid and juices. I'm 8 years out...and I'm sure I've grown some intestine back from my distal bypass...but it is probably minimal, because I still get all my protein from shakes. Not that I don't eat protein...I just don't count it. I assume I don't absorb it, because that's why I had the surgery in the first place...that's why it's called a "bypass"....we are supposed to malabsorb...so why force it to absorb, I ask? Makes no sense at all to me. Regards~
   — Statuesque

March 30, 2008
Ok, I have heard several opinions for and against "NEW WHEY PROTEIN BULLETS". Some have been saying that they are collagen protein which isn't bio-available or "useable" by our bodies. I did a little reasearch...they are PRE_DIGESTED collagenic protein which IS bio-available and rapidly digested. Whatta y'all think? I love the protein bullets. I mix one in a 32oz water bottle with some strawberry propel, it tastes like juice, and I just sip away on it. I can't handle most protein shakes. I would never get my protein in without them. PLEASE READ BELOW from Nutritionist, Dr. Bernd Friedlander worked with the 1984 Olympic Team, and professional athletes with the Los Angeles Rams, and the Oakland Raiders. He is well known for his intuitive chiropractic work as well as his nutritional formulas. He is a frequent speaker at the annual New Living EXPO in San Francisco. www.friedlandergroup.org The Uses of Hydrolyzed Collagen Overview Protein Hydrate is a Hydrolyzed Collagen that helps regulate the body's metabolic state by providing enzymatically digested collagen of a low molecular weight that is rapidly absorbed in the digestive tract. It provides important amino acids often missing in most diets. Normal food sources provide significant amounts of trytophan, cysteine, methionine, and histidine, however the Protein Hydrate formula has high amounts of glycine, lysine, and proline that are often found in low amounts or are even missing in other food sources or supplements. Protein Hydrate becomes important as a dietary supplement (along with a normal diet of other proteins) since age induced wear and tear of the connective tissues increases as we age. This Protein Hydrate contains high levels of the amino acid glycine, which helps the Liver detoxify stored chemicals. It has also been helpful in speeding recovery from injuries. This formula is an animal based Hydrolyzed Collagen protein powder from grass fed cows which contains biologically active peptides. This protein formula works best when taken on an empty stomach away from food, and then waiting 20-30 minutes before eating anything. It can be mixed with juice or warm tea, and it is absorbed fastest when it's not mixed with other fluids that contain proteins or amino acids. Hydrolyzed Collagen is exceptional because it has a molecular weight less than 1000, and this low weight results in extremely rapid absorption from the intestinal tract. The rapid speed of absorption and the distinctive spectrum of amino acids in this formula has a positive impact on a large number of metabolic pathways. It has been found that many people will experience immediate positive effects within 5-18 minutes of consumption when taken on an empty stomach. For example, tests have been done with a number of individuals using 2 tablespoons of the proprietary formula mixed in juice, and some of the effects noticed within 15 minutes of consumption include: improved mental alertness, mental clarity, concentration, and energy. Some people have experienced a short period of dizziness of 3-5 minutes because it causes a sudden release of brain neurotransmitters, however it is not dangerous and passes quickly. Long term effects : supports repair of musculoskeletal injuries, reduces inflammation, improves hydration of the connective tissues of the body, improves joint flexibility, improves signal induction, improves sleep, reduces pain, improves cellular calcium uptake, increases metabolic rate, and improves the quality of hair and nails. Many athletes and body builders take protein supplements regularly to support muscle repair and growth, however most protein supplements do not contain the raw materials needed by the body to repair corresponding connective tissue damage. Protein Hydrate Hydrolyzed Collagen taken as a food supplement provides the proper ratios of amino acids needed for collagen production. In addition, hydrolyzed collagen contains naturally occurring glucosamine and hyaluronic acid which supports connective tissue repair as well as providing hydrating and volumizing effects due to the natural ability of connective tissues to hold water. Roland Moskowitz, M.D., notes that partially hydrolyzed collagen has been used as a food for at least a millenium. Collagen hydrolysate products are considered GRAS i.e., Generally Regarded as Safe, by the Food and Drug Administration. Collagen hydrolysate is now being used in the treatment of osteoarthritis, and osteoporosis. The fact that it is considered to be a food with a high level of safety makes it useful for long term use. What is the function of Collagen and why do we need Hydrolyzed Collagen? Due to the limited food choices in our diets and the wear and tear that occurs with strenuous activity and aging, many people become depleted of the important amino acids needed to make Collagen. This can be a significant problem in individuals involved in strenuous physical activity such as athletes and construction workers. Collagen is the most abundant fibrous protein found in the body, but in a dietary supplement unprocessed collagen is not digestible. Protein Hydrate provides predigested collagen that contains both free amino acids as well as peptide fragments (smaller chains of amino acids) that are rapidly absorbed through the walls of the intestine into the blood stream. These components are used by the body to build structures and to regulate the functions of the cells. Up to 30% of all the protein in the body is collagen, and up to 70% of the proteins in the connective tissues are composed of collagen. In the body, collagen is made by specialized cells in the skin, ligaments, bones and cartilage. The protein Hydrate formula also provides additional amounts of the amino acids glycine and glutamine. Glucine supports detoxification and glutamine helps the cells increase their levels of the energy storage molecule creatine. How does it work? The body's natural ability to repair supporting connective tissue (bone, joints, cartilage, tendons, ligaments, skin, hair and nails), an maintain hydration of the cells diminishes after age 25. Hydrolyzed collagen provides the missing link in supplying additional amounts of amino acids like glycine, lysine, and proline which are specifically needed by the body to build connective tissue structures, and to regulate the functions of the cells. Therefore, free amino acids and small peptides in Protein Hydrate provide the advantages of easy digestion, rapid absorption, as well as metabolic regulatory effects. What are the benefits? In addition to providing certain missing nutritional links lacking in most dietary supplements, it provides the specific amino acid building blocks needed to build and repair collagen. For Athletes and Body Builders: it supports muscle growth, increases metabolism, and provides structural material and nutrients needed for the repair of injuries (cartilage, ligaments, tendons, bones and discs). Anti-Aging: it provides a positive nitrogen balance which is important in the nutritional support of age relayed degeneration like collagen loss and cartilage damage. It is an excellent food product for individuals with a sedentary lifestyle, as well as the very active. Inflammation: it provides nutritional support for individuals predisposed to repetitive joint injury, pain and joint discomfort. Arthritis, osteoarthritis, osteoporosis: it contains amino acids needed for bone and joint health. Skin tone: it provides critical nutrients, and helps support skin strength, texture, as well as thickness. Healthy skin retains moisture better, and is more elastic, and less prone to develop fine lines and wrinkles. Hair: it provides nutritional support for healthy hair. Nails: it provides nutritional building blocks for strong nails. Weight loss: many users have more energy which promotes a more active lifestyle, thereby promoting weight loss. Muscle tone and Strength are supported. Exposure to Toxic substances: the high glycine content of the formula assists the detoxification process of the liver. Tissue hydration is supported. In addition many users report feeling more alert with improved concentration, balanced mood, improved energy and an increased sense of well-being. Article Source: http://www.ApprovedArticles.com California Nutritionist, Dr. Bernd Friedlander worked with the 1984 Olympic Team, and professional athletes with the Los Angeles Rams, and the Oakland Raiders. He is well known for his intuitive chiropractic work as well as his nutritional formulas. He is a frequent speaker at the annual New Living EXPO in San Francisco. www.friedlandergroup.org
   — Tomi D.

March 30, 2008
Itook these a couple of time and they are expensive but they work.. My girlfriend took them longer then me and she has shrunk all over she was 280 now at 130 in months ...crazy but she did alot of those bullets
   — JULIAP




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