Question:
Protein Pills - Very Inaccurate Label ????
Protein Pills - Very Inaccurate Label ???? ------------------------------------------------- There has been some interest in protein pills here on OH, so we bought a bottle of Capsule Pro from Nashua Nutrition. ------------------------------------------------- The arithmetic below suggests that Capsul-Pro is overstating the amount of protein you get by over 400%. ------------------------------------------------- You can check the arithmetic yourself ! ------------------------------------------------- Here's how: ------------------------------------------------- The label says you have to take 3 pills per serving, and per serving you get: -- 11 grams of protein -- 1 gram carb -- 1 gram fat ------------------------------------------------- Even if all 3 items were "rounded up" you should be getting at least 11.5 grams of those nutrients combined. ------------------------------------------------- The label says there are 60 servings per bottle (180 pills, 3 pills per serving = 60 servings). ------------------------------------------------- 60 servings, weighing at least 11.5 grams each serving, should weigh at least 690 grams, which is about 1.5 pounds. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Yet the pills and the bottle combined only weight about 0.3 pounds. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Even before shipping, the cost from Nashua Nutrition was $37.95. So based on my arithmetic you are paying roughly $10 per ounce of protein, and that is true only if the composition of the capsules is approximately what is represented. But if the label weights are so grossly wrong, one can only wonder about what is in the capsules. ------------------------------------------------- And just remember, when you buy from web distributors, they are not always looking out for you when they decide what products to offer. ------------------------------------------------- Jerome UNJURY (R) Protein — UNJURY (posted on March 12, 2008)
March 12, 2008
I had the same type of question. In other words, how can a 1 gram capsule
have 3.8 grams of protein? The answer I was given is that the inventor of
the protein uses a patented technique called "enzymatic cleaving"
of the protein chains. This technology effectively concentrates the
protein. The label states "3.8 grams (Mr)" which stands for
molar mass, which is different than physical weight. Therefore, it is not
useful to determine whether the label is correct based on physical weight.
The way it was described to me is that "it's like the difference
between coffee and espresso." I hope this helps to clarify...
— jonedwards
March 12, 2008
Hi Jon
An ounce is an ounce is an ounce. So the arithmetic says the product is
mislabeled. Period.
If you have a 4 feet of chain, and you break it into two parts, you still
only have a total of 4 feet of chain.
Sometimes you will find that supplements that want to distract you from the
truth will offer what I call "scientific mystification"--
complicated scientific-sounding language that you cannot follow.
Always listen to your own common sense. An ounce is still an ounce.
Jerome
UNJURY (R)
— UNJURY
March 12, 2008
It was just too expensive for me...I'll stick to what I can afford-- body
fortress and designer whey...Which by the way, Kroger (a grocery store here
in GA) has started carrying Vanilla Designer Whey and it's over $10 cheaper
than GNC! Wooohoooo! Thank you for the insight, now I can pass this on to
others who want to get the protein "pills." God bless!
— crystalsno
March 12, 2008
Thanks, Jerome. I understand your point. They've been working good for
me, so I'll continue to take them unless I start having problems...
— jonedwards
March 12, 2008
How many pills are you taking per day, Jon?
Jerome
UNJURY (R) Protein
— UNJURY
March 12, 2008
— Danny1less
March 12, 2008
Isn't it against OH policy to advertise your own product here? Just
curious. Are you are post-op Jerome, your profile doesn't say. While I do
agree that the capsules aren't the best source of protein, I find it kind
of disturbing to promote your own product here, meaning it is one you sell.
Blessings,
— ALF
March 12, 2008
Okay, first of all, there is a different between measurements in volume and
measurements in weight. Secondly, it apprears you work for Unjury.
Obviously you are not going to sing the praises of this product that could
be a real blessing to anyone who cannot stomach all those nasty protein
drinks (including unjury) or has trouble eating enough to get in decent
protein.
— [Deactivated Member]
March 13, 2008
When we see something we think is grossly mislabeled,
we post it for OH Members to know. We regularly hear
from OH Members who appreciate this.
The notion that the protein is "supercharged" has no basis
in science. There is no such thing.
The idea of saying it is like espresso
is not scientific and diverts attention from the fact that
the product doesn't deliver what is on the label.
Your body needs protein and you cannot get more than
a gram of protein out of a gram of protein.
If a product says it has 11 grams of protein
in 3 capsules, and it only delivers 2 or 3 total grams of
protein in 3 capsules, then that product is mislabeled
and it misrepresents its contents.
There are not two interpretations of what the word "weight"
means. Further, there is no confusion between weight and volume. Products
must provide their nutrition facts in weight. Human needs for nutrients
are expressed in weight, not volume.
You are of course free to use the product. If you need
70 grams of protein from these capsules, you need to
take at least 80 to 100 capsules each day, and probably more --
depending on what is really in the capsules.
I don't "appear" to work for UNJURY. I DO work for UNJURY.
I clearly sign my posts "Unjury Protein.
Trust me, if OH thought I was misrepresenting this product,
they would pull the post.
Jerome
UNJURY (R) Protein
— UNJURY
March 13, 2008
At the very least, it sounds like the makers of Capsule Pro are deceptive
in their advertising/packaging as Molecular Mass is not a commonly used
measurement and they say nothing about it on their website (ie. there's no
(Mr) I could see). On the internet add, they say that each 1000mg serving
contains 3.8g of concentrated protein. Using the coffee example, this is
the same as saying 1000mg of expresso beans contains 3.8 grams of coffee.
While expresso beans are much stronger than coffee beans, 1000mg beans is
always going to be 1000mg of beans. Even tho expresso is very strong and
it has more "umpf" than coffee, 1000mg of beans are 1000mg of
beans.
Now for some Math: (not for the faint hearted)
In order to determine how much protein is in each serving, we need to know
the strength of the protein concentrate. If the protein concentrate
contained the equivalent of 1 gram of protein per 10mg of protein
concentrate powder, you would have to eat 1000mg of protein concentrate to
get the equivalent of 10 grams of protein.
It's quite possible that what Capsul Pro meant to say (oopsie!) is that
each 1000mg serving has the quivalent of 3.8g of regular non-concentrated
protein.
If you look at their internet ad, the ingredient list says that it contains
600mg of Instantized Concentrate Whey Protein Isolate... and up at the
top, they say that it has 3.8g of concentrated protein (and 3.8g of
concentrated protein weighs the same as 3.8g of unconcentrated protein).
So which is it, 3.8g of concentrated protein (how much regular protein is
in a gram of concentrated protein?) or 600mg of Concentrate Whey Protein
Isolate (again, how much protein is in a gram of concentrate protein?) ???
If Jerome was posting out of the goodness of his heart, that'd be great...
he was posting because he's selling a product that isn't misrepresenting
itself (or at the very least very, very mathematically confused) and he
wants us to know about it...
I appreciate the info and I appreciate his honesty in who he represents.
I believe that this post was done as a courtsey... if his true intention
was to make money off of this, I think he'd probably do a lot more than
just list a product after his name. Thanks!
— mrsidknee
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