Question:
I can eat any and everything--suger included--no dumping-Dud I fail at WLS?/

I am 204 11 months post opt-still not losing weight--can eat everything--Lost job-no insurance--never been back to Doctor since having surgery June 11, 2002--start at 294--wanting to lose 40 more pounds--please help me--please!!!! [email protected]    — Felicia S. (posted on May 16, 2003)


May 16, 2003
I'm sorry to hear that you are not doing too well. No, you did not fail at WLS, but you could if you continue or have started on a path of eating everything especially sugar. Just because you can eat everything does not mean that you should, you still know what you should be eating and what you should be not, don't let your current situation dictate your eating especially not if you are trying to still lose more weight-So perk up,meditate, and stop loading your body with all those bad things, you should call your surgeon and let him know your situation as well, maybe he would be willing to see you at no cost, or go to a support group in your area, perhaps you will luck up and be able to talk with the surgeon or the nutrtionists. Best of luck to you, i'm sure everything will work itself out in due time.
   — TotallyTori

May 16, 2003
I have to agree with Jaimee on this one...you need to start following the eating plan for an RNY person...and that does not mean eating anything you want - IF you want to lose weight. You simply cannot get ALL of your nutrients through food - regardless of how many veggies, etc you eat, because we malabsorb foods (which includes those vital nutrients). If you want to be healthy AND lose weight you must MUST MUST make better food choices, take your vitamins and flush your bod with fluids (not sugar-laden ones either). It's a shame your surgeon didn't offer a better follow up program.
   — [Deactivated Member]

May 16, 2003
Your profile mentions exercise, but it's unclear how much or what type you do now. It also says you don't take any vitamins or supplements. No word on limiting carbs and upping protein. Those are the areas I'd be looking to change. I really don't think people succeed with this surgery in the long run if they come up short in not one, not two, but all three of those areas. It's hard to change, but you've done so well so far.
   — Suzy C.

May 16, 2003
Felicia, Didn't your doctor include follow-up in your surgery costs? I haven't had my surgery yet but know that the vitamins are crucial to your good health, as is limiting the things you eat. You deserve to take better care of yourself. Hope you'll get professional help. None of us can do this alone.
   — Good_Courage_Ruth

May 16, 2003
Felicia sweetie, you sound depressed. Is there anyway you can get to a doc. an antidepressant and or therapy will give you the help you need to get back to work as well as back to work losing weight. But, you must follow the rules. I know the initial surgery charge includes a one year check back and the surgeon should be more than willing to write a perscription.
   — faybay

May 16, 2003
I have also read that just because you don't have the classical signs of dumping it doesn't mean you don't dump from sugar. The sugar does have an effect on the body whether you feel it or not, maybe even doing some temporary damage. Some people feel very tired after eating sugary foods as a post-op. Just an FYI.
   — [Deactivated Member]

May 17, 2003
First of all, you have lost 90 lbs and not gained it back - I call that success! You do sound depressed, but I guess I would too if I lost my job and had no insurance! As far as follow up, not to be the bearer of more bad news, but sometimes there are time limits on how long post op care is covered. (With my insurance, I have to pay a co-pay for visits to the surgeon after 90 days, and he requires follow up for a year. That's just the way it is!) I assume you are looking for a job, so I hope you can find something soon. Thrn, hopefully, you will be insured and can see a doctor to treat your depression. Barring that, you can try calling the United Way in your area (our area has a very nice referral number and they have been really helpful in the past) and see if there are any clinics that either offer free treatment or that you can pay on a scale according to income. You need some help with the depression and also some labs to see where you are. And it has been sited here before that there is a statistic from somewhere that 30% of RNY-ers don't dump. I think I am in that 30% myself! I'm six months out and only dumped once (on a sample of sausage at the local grocery store, of al things!) but never on sugar, and I have pushed the limits, believe me! the point is, there are plenty of folks here who are in the same boat. I would like to lose more weight, but if this is what I am meant to weigh, so be it. I'm better than I was before. Do try to find some help. I'll be thinking of you....
   — koogy

May 17, 2003
Ok.. I'm not reading other answers... but I'm sure someone's said it.. but it bears repeating.. because you CAN eat something, doesn't mean eat it... and this is a tool, that will help you lose weight, and hopefully help you keep it off but you will have to work with it -- use it in the right way. I can't imagine why you haven't been back to the doctor, but you can't change that now. Here's a couple of thoughts -- start running, stop making bad food choices, set some limits for yourself, find a job with insurance and get back to your surgeon for follow up. How does that sound? Tough.. yes.. easy for me to say.. yes.. but you really don't have much choice if you want to lose 40 more pounds.. your health is really important. Good luck
   — Lisa C.

May 17, 2003
Some pretty tough advice there. Good advice, but in some caes easier said and done. Have you all forgotten? It's like, for some, once you had the surgery all the old mind sets and food issues just up and disappeared. If this is the case, well, good for you! For some it is not that easy or black and white. I feel blessed this does work right for me. I always had such LOW will power when it came to food. I think I STILL do. It's just that, thankfully, for me it all works in unison. Doesn't sound like it is quite that 'easy' for Felicia. Things are clouded right now. But things can get better. Felicia, I hope you can take some of the good advice that was thrown out there with the best of intentions. We all want and need to support each other. I'm not sure of the preparation you received pre op. It's very important you know the 'rules'. Try following them and see if it works for you. Try doing the protein first, drink your water like it is recommended, and walk or some kind of activity. Take care of yourself and do take your vitamins. If you are doing all this, you should see it all come together for you. Now this is advice, stuff that does work for me, one who is so totally a 'diet' failure with NO will power on food issues. If I can do it, I would bet ANY one could. How about making a commitment for one week of following the four'rules'. Protein first, water, vitamins and exercise. See if there isn't a big time improvement. Good luck.
   — Ginger M.




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