Question:
I have a BMI of 40.5 with no comorbs, Will I still qualify?

I am 5'6" and 251.6 lbs. My BMI is 40.5. Do I qualify under the guidelines set by the bariatric associations? I do not have definite comorbs only aches and complaints. Have done Physical Therapy for many of these. I have seen the surgeon and my paperwork is being submitted. I just recieved a copy of it and I was not too impressed. I guess I am hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.My inusrance is tricare. Any knowledge on this would be greatly appreciated. I have searched the library. I am getting mighty discouraged as I am still scared of a denial- will be horrible. I know I will have a hard time overcoming that. Sorry this is so long. Thanks in advance.    — Jan S. (posted on February 7, 2003)


February 7, 2003
Hey there- I was 266 and 5'7" and the same BMI as you and also no real comorbidities. My insurance approved me on the first try. I believe it has most to do with your insuance company's guidelines for surgery. It is usually in your handbook or if you want you can call and ask. Also many companies have web sites. Good Luck!!
   — Carol S.

February 7, 2003
I have the same situation you are going through.. except Im about 2 steps behind you. My consult is on the 25th of Feb and I am also scared. I have tricare.. and you and I both know what a pain that can be. But They cleared me for the consult so quickly.. I dont think you will have a problem either.. Just know that if you are denied the first time not to let it fret you.. they usually do.. the doc will submit it again and it should get approved. btw.. I have no comorbs either.. just lack of energy and general achiness. dont give up. We are all in this together.
   — heather L.

February 7, 2003
If you have a BMI of 40 or more and need to lose 100 lbs or more, you don't need any co-midities.
   — Leslie E.

February 7, 2003
Like an earlier poster said, most insurance that covers WLS will do so if your BMI is 40; almost all will do it if you have to lose at least 100 pounds. (The others still may make you jump through some hoops.) Still, co-morbids just make your case stronger-- and perhaps you do have some. If your aches and pains are so bad that you have needed physical therapy, then maybe you actually do have co-morbids. Back, knee, shoulder problems all may qualify as co-morbids. If you've seen an orthopedist, get the official names of your problems. For example, I have degenerative disc disease in my back. My rheumotologist (for fibromyalgia) told me it is very common in heavy people. Well, for many insurance companies this is a co-morbidity. Good Luck, Beth
   — Beth S.

February 7, 2003
my BMI is 64 and i have too many comorbidites to list and my insuracne company denied me wls. some insurances will deny becuase they do not want to pay for it, simple, has little to do with wheither a person needs it or not! i think part of the problem is the popularity of wls now.
   — janetc00

February 7, 2003
My daughter has started the beginning steps toward WLS. The surgeon told her some insurance companies are raising the requirement to a BMI of 45 if you have few comorbidities. Mine was 56.4 so had no problems 13.5 months ago.
   — grammie5

February 7, 2003
My BMI was just 40, exactly. I didn't have any major co-morbids besides depression. I had a family history of diabetes and hypertension, but they never checked (how could they?)
   — jengrz

February 8, 2003
Hi there, I also have Tricare and I was approved with a BMI of 40.2. I sent in copies of my records of ANYTHING that could possibly have been weight-related and I sent a letter to the review board stating the reasons why I thought I would make a good candidate for this surgery and a detailed family history chart, which seems to play a role in Tricare decisions as well, although they don't come right out and say it. In all, I guess I prepared a packet of about 30 pages. You said that your paperwork had already been submitted, but the real question is what did you submit? Oh, also since you are on Tricare I wanted to ask if you had tried for a referral to a military hospital. If you get the referral directly to the hospital you don't go through the insurance company at all. The hospital does the approval and tends to have more lenient guidelines for approval. I was first referred to Madigan MTF in Tacoma, WA and approved almost immediately, BUT the waiting list was two years long. So I would have eventually had the surgery, but I didn't want to wait two years (as I'm sure you can understand). I decided instead to go to a private surgeon and actually used the fact that Madigan had approved me, but had such a long waiting list, in my favor. I was approved within five days of submitting my paperwork to Tricare. Make sure that you call them. Don't wait for them to send you a letter (which could take weeks for you to receice once they make their decision). Call the service center and ask every day if they have a status for you. I wish you the best of luck and would be happy to help out in any way that I can. Please feel free to email me and I will send you a rough copy of the letter that I sent along with anything else that might help.
   — Nikki L.

January 6, 2004
I'm right with ya. I to am at the mercy of the Tricare system.I have a BMI of 41.6 and I'm 5'3". I have comorbids but none of the major ones that they seem to be looking for. Although I may have sleep apnea. I met with the surgeon yesterday and he said he would send off his reccomendation to Tricare but it's really up to them. I gave him my letter to submit with his reccomendation but he said they don't need it. Everything I have read on the net said the letter was vital. So I guess I'm now confused more than ever. I too am on pins and needles waiting. I'm bracing myself for a denial, it's hard to stay positive, I know. I wish you the best of luck. I hope we both get good news....soon.
   — Jillisa R.




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