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Kristy R.
on 3/18/11 5:42 am - Santa Clara, CA
Topic: RE: Scientific explanation of a stall/plateau
On March 18, 2011 at 11:26 AM Pacific Time, cathimajig wrote:
From http://www.dsfacts.com/weight-loss-stall-or-plateau.html :

The Inevitable StallBy Diana C.

A "stall" a few weeks out is inevitable, and here's why.

Our bodies use glycogen for short term energy storage. Glycogen is not very soluble, but it is stored in our muscles for quick energy -- one pound of glycogen requires 4 lbs of water to keep it soluble, and the average glycogen storage capacity is about 2 lbs. So, when you are not getting in enough food, your body turns first to stored glycogen, which is easy to break down for energy. And when you use up 2 lbs of glycogen, you also lose 8 lbs of water that was used to store it -- voila -- the "easy" 10 lbs that most people lose in the first week of a diet.

As you stay in caloric deficit, however, your body starts to realize that this is not a short term problem. You start mobilizing fat from your adipose tissue and burning fat for energy. But your body also realizes that fat can't be used for short bursts of energy -- like, to outrun a saber tooth tiger. So, it starts converting some of the fat into glycogen, and rebuilding the glycogen stores. And as it puts back the 2 lbs of glycogen into the muscle, 8 lbs of water has to be stored with it to keep it soluble. So, even though you might still be LOSING energy content to your body, your weight will not go down or you might even GAIN for a while as you retain water to dissolve the glycogen that is being reformed and stored.

Breathe, and fuggedaboudit for a few days.

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If you are experiencing a post-op weight loss stall or plateau further out there are a few possible causes. First, check that are you really in a stall. If the scale has stopped moving you may be losing inches, so check your measurements.

Too Many Carbs?
Carbohydrates can start sneaking into your foods without you being aware of how quickly they are adding up. For more information on carbs, see our section on Carbohydrates. If you are struggling with your weight loss you may want to examine your daily carb count. You can try to keep your carbs under 50g a day and see if that makes a difference in your weight loss. Do not eat carbs before bedtime as it triggers insulin and initiates fat storage. There are some great web site resources you can use to keep track of what you are eating.

Fit Day

Spark People
- If you join Spark People also join the DS group.
The Daily Plate

Calorie King

For more tips on keeping a food journal see the Personal Nutrition Guide.

Eating Enough?
If you are under-eating or go more than 4-5 hours without eating, your body will shift into fasting mode, slow your metabolism and conserve your stored energy (fat). This can contribute to a weight loss stall or plateau. Make sure you are eating small meals or small snacks throughout the day and also ensure you meet your daily protein requirements. Try eating some protein with every meal or snack. For more information on protein requirements see our section on Protein.

Drinking Enough?
An adequate level of water in your body aids in the effective breakdown of fat. The daily minimum recommendation is 64 fluid oz of water a day. If you are in ketosis you will need to drink even more water to ensure the ketones are flushed out of your system. You may also need more than the minimum amount of water if you are exercising or live in a warmer or dry environment.

Exercising?
Exercise can increase your metabolism and burn fat. Strength training will build muscles and will boost fat burning. In a stall you can try increasing your volume of exercise or changing up your routine to overcome a weight loss stall or plateau. If you have been doing mainly aerobic activity, try doing a bit of strength training, and if you have been doing mainly strength training, try an aerobic work-out.

 This is awesome info, but I am cracking up on the "outrun a saber tooth tiger" part - haha!  
~Kristy~ VSG 3/29/11 ~ 15 pounds lost pre-op, SW - 240/GW - 150
 
cathimajig
on 3/18/11 4:32 am, edited 3/18/11 4:32 am - Jacksonville, FL
Topic: RE: Confession Time!
I started on my soft foods a few days early too. I still do just liquids for breakfast and most days for lunch as well. But I've got to "eat" for dinner. The swelling in my stomach seems to be going down a lot faster than a lot of people on the message boards. I still can't eat more than a couple tablespoons, but it's still nice to feel somewhat normal again. I'm being super careful to really chew, take tiny bites and not eat too quickly. Seems to work for me.
~Cathi

            

             High Weight: 417.5  Surgery Weight: 403.4  Current Weight: 361.4    
cathimajig
on 3/18/11 4:29 am - Jacksonville, FL
Topic: RE: Will March 22 ever get here?
For me, the days leading up to my surgery took FOREVER! And now, the time is just flying by. One thing that might help speed the time up between now and Tuesday...get everything ready. Clean your house, do all of your laundry, go shopping for supplies, etc. Believe me, you're not going to be up to doing any of that after you come home from the hospital. Two birds with one stone.
~Cathi

            

             High Weight: 417.5  Surgery Weight: 403.4  Current Weight: 361.4    
cathimajig
on 3/18/11 4:26 am - Jacksonville, FL
Topic: Scientific explanation of a stall/plateau
From http://www.dsfacts.com/weight-loss-stall-or-plateau.html :

The Inevitable StallBy Diana C.

A "stall" a few weeks out is inevitable, and here's why.

Our bodies use glycogen for short term energy storage. Glycogen is not very soluble, but it is stored in our muscles for quick energy -- one pound of glycogen requires 4 lbs of water to keep it soluble, and the average glycogen storage capacity is about 2 lbs. So, when you are not getting in enough food, your body turns first to stored glycogen, which is easy to break down for energy. And when you use up 2 lbs of glycogen, you also lose 8 lbs of water that was used to store it -- voila -- the "easy" 10 lbs that most people lose in the first week of a diet.

As you stay in caloric deficit, however, your body starts to realize that this is not a short term problem. You start mobilizing fat from your adipose tissue and burning fat for energy. But your body also realizes that fat can't be used for short bursts of energy -- like, to outrun a saber tooth tiger. So, it starts converting some of the fat into glycogen, and rebuilding the glycogen stores. And as it puts back the 2 lbs of glycogen into the muscle, 8 lbs of water has to be stored with it to keep it soluble. So, even though you might still be LOSING energy content to your body, your weight will not go down or you might even GAIN for a while as you retain water to dissolve the glycogen that is being reformed and stored.

Breathe, and fuggedaboudit for a few days.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you are experiencing a post-op weight loss stall or plateau further out there are a few possible causes. First, check that are you really in a stall. If the scale has stopped moving you may be losing inches, so check your measurements.

Too Many Carbs?
Carbohydrates can start sneaking into your foods without you being aware of how quickly they are adding up. For more information on carbs, see our section on Carbohydrates. If you are struggling with your weight loss you may want to examine your daily carb count. You can try to keep your carbs under 50g a day and see if that makes a difference in your weight loss. Do not eat carbs before bedtime as it triggers insulin and initiates fat storage. There are some great web site resources you can use to keep track of what you are eating.

Fit Day

Spark People
- If you join Spark People also join the DS group.
The Daily Plate

Calorie King

For more tips on keeping a food journal see the Personal Nutrition Guide.

Eating Enough?
If you are under-eating or go more than 4-5 hours without eating, your body will shift into fasting mode, slow your metabolism and conserve your stored energy (fat). This can contribute to a weight loss stall or plateau. Make sure you are eating small meals or small snacks throughout the day and also ensure you meet your daily protein requirements. Try eating some protein with every meal or snack. For more information on protein requirements see our section on Protein.

Drinking Enough?
An adequate level of water in your body aids in the effective breakdown of fat. The daily minimum recommendation is 64 fluid oz of water a day. If you are in ketosis you will need to drink even more water to ensure the ketones are flushed out of your system. You may also need more than the minimum amount of water if you are exercising or live in a warmer or dry environment.

Exercising?
Exercise can increase your metabolism and burn fat. Strength training will build muscles and will boost fat burning. In a stall you can try increasing your volume of exercise or changing up your routine to overcome a weight loss stall or plateau. If you have been doing mainly aerobic activity, try doing a bit of strength training, and if you have been doing mainly strength training, try an aerobic work-out.

~Cathi

            

             High Weight: 417.5  Surgery Weight: 403.4  Current Weight: 361.4    
cathimajig
on 3/18/11 4:08 am - Jacksonville, FL
Topic: RE: 8days out
I lost 13.4 lbs the first week after surgery. I just swung by my doctor's office to get (unofficially) weighed today, and for week two: ZERO lbs lost! I left the doc office and sat and cried in my car. But stalls happen to everyone...believe me, I've been reading every post on OH regarding stalls to make myself feel better. Just make sure you're getting in all your liquids and protein, and stay the course. The weight will start coming off again soon. I found a post that explained all the technical stuff going on in the body during a stall...I'm going to see if I can find it again and I'll post it for everyone to reference.

Let's both of us hang in there!
~Cathi

            

             High Weight: 417.5  Surgery Weight: 403.4  Current Weight: 361.4    
cathimajig
on 3/18/11 4:05 am - Jacksonville, FL
Topic: Sorry I've been out of touch...

...but my mom fell and broke her hip the night of my surgery. She has osteoporosis, and the bone completely shattered, so she had hip replacement surgery. My dad called me very early Friday morning while I was still in the hospital to let me know what had happened. My poor dad...the two of us were in separate hospitals and he was seriously stressed.

They moved my mom to a rehab facility after the surgery, and I've been spending every spare moment there with her so I've had very little time for anything else. She's finally home, and I'm trying to catch up and focus on me again!

So 2 weeks after my surgery, how am I feeling? Soooooo tired! And I'm getting cold sometimes, when I never used to. It's much easier to drink now, and I can take a drink like a "normal" person. I can't gulp or anything, but considering for the first week and a half I could only take a teeny tiny sip, this is major improvement. I'm eating soft foods as well, though I can only eat about 2-3 tablespoons of something over about 30-40 minutes.

I lost 13.4 lbs my first week...and nothing the second week. Yes, ZERO lbs. From everything I've read, this is a normal stall as my body is adjusting to the severely reduced calories. Nevertheless, I had a mini-breakdown and sobbed for about 20 minutes this morning. It's so discouraging to be eating practically nothing and struggling so hard just to drink enough per day, only to see no results. I gave myself a pep talk, and while I'm not exactly in great spirits, I'm dealing. I'm just reminding myself that I've lost 27 lbs in less than a month, and that's no small feat.

I'm so happy to see that everyone kept posting during my absense...I'm going to start browsing through those older posts and start commenting. So glad to be back!

~Cathi

            

             High Weight: 417.5  Surgery Weight: 403.4  Current Weight: 361.4    
Kati M.
on 3/18/11 2:40 am - TN
WLS on 03/08/11
Topic: RE: Surgery tomorrow.....Very excited
Sorry, I missed you before your surgery. But I do hope all went well. Take care and I hope to see ya soon on the forum.

Kati

        
Kati M.
on 3/18/11 2:36 am - TN
WLS on 03/08/11
Topic: RE: Tomorrow
Sorry I missed your post before surgery. This has been a difficult week for me, but anyway. I hope your surgery went well and welcome to the loser's bench. Keep us up to date on your recovery.

Kati

        
chinasl45
on 3/18/11 1:10 am - Harrisburg, PA
Topic: RE: Will March 22 ever get here?
Yes, the 22nd will be here in a minute just like the 23rd will be here for me....I slept fitully last night. I was thinking about the surgery and did I ask everything that I needed to, did I get the correct supplies, etc but I never questioned myself about getting this surgery because of this I have no doubt. We will be fine and will be on the losers bench in a hot minute!!!!
PSW 268 and Height is 5'10, SW was 241.6, GW is 170, CW is 160   
                
Kim_M
on 3/18/11 12:27 am - LaPorte, TX
Topic: 8days out
I lost 12ibs really fast now nothing the last 4 days I am not eatting what gives
                                                                                                                                                           
  First month since VSG 33  2nd 14 lbs 3rd12lbs 4th10lbs 5th10lbs 6th 9lbs 7th 13lbs 8th 13 lbs  9th 2 10th 6 11th bounced 175-180 12th  bounced  13th 2 lb cw(164)      
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