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Erica Alikchihoo
on 4/6/09 6:51 am - Denver, CO
Topic: RE: What?s your goal weight?
When I first started this journey, I was 5' 7 1/2" and weighed 307.  That was in October 2008.  I had to jump through numerous hoops for my insurance company in order to be approved.... one of which was a physician supervised weight loss program with extensive documentation of diet, exercise, behavior modification, etc.  I was told I had to lose weight prior to the surgery, but not given a specific amount, although a target of 10% was mentioned.  I lost 27 pounds on my own, with the help of my surgeon's registered dietician and my own physician.  When I finally saw my surgeon for the first time, he had me stand up, turn around, he looked through my chart, and said to me that he'd like to see me set my goal between 165 and 170 because I am tall and big-boned.  My hips are naturally wide (my Aunt was so thin that when she turned sideways, if she stuck out her tongue, you would have thought she was a zipper.... but from the back she was just WIDE.  I'm the same way.  Even in my adolesence and early teens before weight was much of a problem, I NEVER had a flat stomach, there was always a little roundness to it.  I thought that his idea of an ideal weight for me was too high.... I really wanted to be at about 145-150.  But I will be happy anywhere in between there.  I haven't weighed 170 since I got married, and I looked good then!  I had my surgery on March 2, and have officially lost 50 pounds since beginning this journey.  I don't feel as if the weight is coming off fast enough since surgery, but keep being told that everyone is different, and that it will happen.  I hope so, because I'm sticking to my program and drinking all I can and getting in all the protein I can and doing all my vitamins....
Erica Alikchihoo    
"She changes everything She touches,
and everything She touches, changes!"


 
                
kilmarlic
on 4/6/09 4:40 am - powells point, NC
Topic: RE: What?s your goal weight?
I know you brought this up Saturday and I've been thinking about it ever since. I honestly don't know. That sounds bad - to me. I've made a transition into more or less black and white thinking and this clearly falls into my gray zone - and I'm not comfortable with that.

My surgeon and I discussed a goal weight - he hasn't given me one. He says that he's gotten to know me well enough that he feels setting a gaol number will end up driving me bonkers (hmmmmm.....he may be on to something there). The reaasons I had my surgery are still the same. I wanted // needed my health back. I've gained that and then some ALREADY and I'm nearly 8 months out. So my surgery has already been successful using that particular measuring standard.

I have a quality of life now that I never imagined existed. If I look back over my life (from childhood til now) and take away the extremes (grief & elation) and look at what was normal for me - I really didn't have much in terms of quality. The obesity also was robbing me of any quantity of life as well.

So to answer your question - I already feel WONDERFUL and I think that spirit and joy that I'm radiating is just about contagious. I feel complete for the first time in my adult life. So what now?

My journey is in no way, shape or form close to finished. I'd like to weigh in between 170 and 150.  I cannot remember a time when the scale was that low. It would definetly be prior to Jr. High school. I also imagine that at that particular weight I'd be wearing probably a size 10 or 12 (?) here again - never bought those before.

I'm in uncharted territory here. As much as that should terrify me - it excites me. It's like a big adventure - I don't want it to end but without having plotted a course how will I know when I've arrived. Will I care? To me it's sorta like retiring with the intent of sailing around the world (which David & I both would love to do). You have a definite starting point and some sailors map out the entire course with a set schedule. When anything comes up (or the wind doesn't blow) your schedule needs to be altered - how flexible am I going to be to change course and enjoy the detours (stalls)?

hmmmmmmm........ OK now I'm thinking even more. Thanks - I think.....
- Iris

Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be bent out of shape.

Highest      Surgery    Lowest      Current                                                                 

 314.5          294          208        258.4

FabBy50 .
on 4/6/09 12:29 am - Everett, WA
Topic: RE: Mourning my husbands shooting death...
Im so sorry to hear about your horrible loss. My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your children.

With many hugs, Bernadette
Barbara C.
on 4/5/09 11:55 pm - Raleigh, NC
Topic: RE: How do you know when you've had enough?

Hi Iris,

Thanks for the input. I think that you made a couple of great points. Using smaller plates and selecting smaller portions when out I think will be a long-term key to your success. I know that plate sizes in general, and especially those when we go out to eat are just enormous... Remember when we would eat all of it?! You are right when you say that it's important to set aside whatever you don't eat in the first 20 minutes or so, because  you can get the 'whole thing in' just by grazing through the meal. I think that is something that people don't quite realize earlier on, so I'm glad you brought it up.

Barbara
ObesityHelp Coach and Support Group Leader
http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/bcumbo_group/
High-264, Current-148, Goal-145

Barbara C.
on 4/5/09 11:46 pm - Raleigh, NC
Topic: RE: Reply to Barbara's Question about what we want

Hi Erica,

Just a quick update response... As Iris said, I do think that the books by Dr. Judith Beck, there are three, would be a great help, but I am also trying to take your input to heart and have been working on trying to load some topics for discussion that might address concerns, tips, etc. I'm hoping for some more interaction among the members of the group. We'll see.

Please let me know if there are topics or concerns you'd like addressed... I don't know if I'll have the information, but we could work on trying to get it.

Thanks,

Barbara
ObesityHelp Coach and Support Group Leader
http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/bcumbo_group/
High-264, Current-148, Goal-145

Barbara C.
on 4/5/09 11:41 pm - Raleigh, NC
Topic: RE: Reply to Barbara's Question about what we want

Thanks Iris!

 

Barbara
ObesityHelp Coach and Support Group Leader
http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/bcumbo_group/
High-264, Current-148, Goal-145

Barbara C.
on 4/5/09 11:38 pm - Raleigh, NC
Topic: What?s your goal weight?

 

 

I know that when I started this journey, the program I’m with asked me to articulate where I wanted to be in terms of size and weight. What would be the highest acceptable, what would be comfortable, what would be my ‘dream’ weight and size? This helped me try to look at my expectations and try to level them some. I have to admit my actual weight is not what I had anticipated. It’s actually lower. My husband is in the midst of his own journey and he’s not shooting for the ‘normal’ BMI range, because he’s been that small before and to be honest, it’s just too small for him… he really does have big bones and a muscled physique.

  

I think that when looking at what your goal weight should be, you need to work with your Dr and take a number of things into account: your starting weight/bmi, your bone structure, your build, your age, etc…

  

I also think that it’s important to realize the number on the scale, while important as a point of reference, is not the end all when determining if you are at a weight that is good for you. Do you feel wonderful? Are you able to do the things that you want and need to do to enjoy a fulfilled life? Are your vital signs where you need them to be to live long and healthfully? If these things are in line and the number on your scale is not where you had imagined, you might have reached your goal weight without knowing it.

  

So how do you think you will know when you have arrived at goal weight?

 

Please take a moment to post your thoughts on this topic to the Loser's Bench Discussion Forum.

 

Thanks,

Barbara
ObesityHelp Coach and Support Group Leader
http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/bcumbo_group/
High-264, Current-148, Goal-145

kilmarlic
on 4/5/09 11:34 pm - powells point, NC
Topic: RE: Reply to Barbara's Question about what we want
I think I understand what you're going for - simple interaction. Regardless of the stage a person is in with WLS - we're all seeking something. I read everything I could get my hands on prior to surgery (actually - I still do). I wanted to know what to expect. I guess I'm more of a controll person than I ever realized. Being on the forums and interacting with others - gives me that control over my situation. I still seek my doctor's guidance but I honestly put a higher value on the experiences of those who've been there and done it.

There are so many emotional aspects to this journey and our transformations - some I expected others have sorta blind sided me. We need to keep talking about those issues. The struggles and relationships that we had with food prior to surgery still exist. We had WLS surgery not lobotomies. Stress and exercise related issues are always going to exist - we need to develop a plan.

Not sure if you're doing this on here or not but what about using the Beck workbook as an ongoing challenge of sorts?

Barb -Thanks for all you do on here. I know you've got lots going on and it would be easy to get weighted down in everyday life BUT you've shown just how committed you are to your weightloss success as well as the success of others. You Rock!!!

- Iris

Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be bent out of shape.

Highest      Surgery    Lowest      Current                                                                 

 314.5          294          208        258.4

kilmarlic
on 4/5/09 11:20 pm - powells point, NC
Topic: RE: How do you know when you've had enough?
This was something that I was really worried about as a pre-op. Since WLS there have been a few occassions where I felt like I overdid it but they've been few and far between. I try and measure my food. Having said that I'll also admit to having become less strick about that the further out I get. I still use my small plates at home, my Mom's and at church functions. At work I eat most everything from a coffee cup - it makes it almost brainless for me.

When I eat too fast - I get the hiccups. Very loud and painful hiccups. The kids and David think it's quite entertaining - me, not so much.

For me, getting a to go box very early into the meal when eating out is a must. If I don't then I tend to keep picking at the food. Also ordering smaller portions has become second nature. Take Saturday for example. MacAllister's portions are huge. I purposely ordered a cup of soup but when they bring it out surrounded by tortilla chips - it's still way to much. So I tried to focus on what I was eating (which is hard when there's such great company around). After I ate about half of the serving I asked Ginny to put it on the other side of her - if not I would have continued to eat until the soup and the chips were gone - then misery would have set in.

Not drinking with my meals was probably harder for me than limiting portion size or slowing down to chew. Prior to WLS I would easily go through 2 - 3 glasses of tea per meal. Lots of times when I'm in a restaurant I simply won't order a beverage now. It still feels strange to do that but it eliminates the urge to drink with my meal.

Hope this helps someone out there.
- Iris

Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be bent out of shape.

Highest      Surgery    Lowest      Current                                                                 

 314.5          294          208        258.4

REDKAT42025
on 4/5/09 2:58 pm - BENTON, KY
Topic: RE: A Little Non-Scale Victory (NSV)!
Congrats...those little victories that only we know can be so thrilling...little milestones along the path to health and better living that we are traveling.  My feet shrunk and I was able to get  in a fairly normal pair of shoes.  Thrilling

 
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