The Loser's Bench

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Betty J.
on 3/14/12 5:32 am - Waterville, MN
REALIZE Band on 03/08/12
Topic: hello
 I'm new to the group, just wanted to say hi.

  Heaviest wt. 235- surgery wt-203

(Fallen trying to get back on)      Current wt= 215.
    

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Barbara C.
on 1/4/12 2:39 am - Raleigh, NC
Topic: Getting back on track... you can do it

The following is an excerpt from a response I made to someone who asked about getting back on track. This person has been very successful in her weight loss journey, but has recently experienced some regain. Statistically, her regain is within the norms for 'bounce back' weight, but it was how she regained that distressed her and it was nearly a mirror image of what happened to me a few years ago. I really felt her distress and fear and wanted to reassure her that all is not lost, that we always have our tool and we can get control of it now, even when we couldn't for so many years before. So if you have have arrived at maintenance and are struggling with some unwanted regain or if you are only thinking about WLS or in the process of losing and want to know if you can and will be able to maintain your weight after you lose it, read on...

Okay, so the real question is how to get back on track and if it's a realistic possibility and probability. I'm here to tell you that it is both possible and probable that you can reverse the tides and get back to where you are happy and be able to stay there. I have to tell you that I too was just terrified because I knew from my previous experience that 'diets' just don't work for me. I'm an overgrown 3 yr old and if you tell me I can't have something, then.... I will. That scared the proverbial pants off of me. After mulling it over a bit, I decided to try a new tact. One to get the unwanted extra pounds off and another, related tact to keep my weight where I want it to be.

So, to take off the weight, the two biggest things I did were to log my intake and activity and to cut back on simple carbs... cut back, not cut out. I made sure to 'take care of business' with every meal and snack, making sure I was eating 5 to 6 times a day. When I say 'take care of business' I mean that I made sure that I got in  4 to 6 ounces of protein, then followed that with colorful, complex carbs. I also made sure that I wasn't drinking any fluids within that 30 min window before, during and after my meal so that I could allow my pouch to work for me and help me really regulate my intake to ensure I wasn't taking in more calories than I needed. I maintained a caloric intake of about 1000 to 1200 calories a day when I was working on losing the weight. Logging really helped me think about what I was ingesting and if it was supporting my goals or undermining them. This helped think of things in a positive light. Is this choice going to help get me to where I want to be or submarine my attempt to achieve and maintain a healthy and active life? If not, I often would think twice and let it go without the burden and baggage that comes with feeling deprived. I have to say that I did occasionally indulge while I was losing, but not often because I had my eye on the proverbial prize and I was delighted at the result I was getting; most of the time the 'indulgence' I wanted at the moment faded when I 'weighed' it against my goals. To be honest, the weight came off relatively easily. Much more so than I thought it would.

Now that I've taken the excess weight off, I don't really log anymore unless might weight ticks back up out of it's normal range. If that happens, I start logging again and am able to easily trim off the few pounds.

I honestly think that losing the weight and then maintaining it all comes down to awareness and accountability. If you think about it, I'll bet that you've been playing a bit of 'hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil' as it relates to what you are consuming. You 'know' you are going off track, but tend to not want to see the evidence of it. We all have to find ways to be aware and accountable and to be honest what works when we are losing is not necessarily what works in maintenance and I think that this is one of the main reasons we tend to falter in maintenance. Whatever we did to maintain awareness and accountability in our weight loss phase doesn't really work for us anymore and no one has told us that we need re-evaluate how we are going to remain aware and accountable as we work to maintain or new found weight and it's resulting health and quality of life benefits. It took me a while to find what works for me. It may take you a while to find what works for you, but I'm sure that you can and will.

 

Barbara
ObesityHelp Coach and Support Group Leader
http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/bcumbo_group/
High-264, Current-148, Goal-145

Barbara C.
on 12/18/11 4:43 pm - Raleigh, NC
Topic: Support Group Tues Evening 6:30pm in Raleigh NC

The Over 50 Group

The focus of this Get Together will be the to provide support for those who have or have had a BMI Over 50. While anyone is welcome to join this event, please know that the focus of the discussion at this meeting will deal with the issues and concerns common to those start with higher starting BMIs, such as

-  significant excess skin issues,

-  'the loonnngggg' road home,

-  how much weight can you expect to lose when you start with a very high BMI?

-  etc...

That said, I think you will find that there are many issues that are common to all WLS patients, so please feel free to join us.

We'll be meeting in Brier Creek which is easily accessible from Highways 70, 540, 440 and 40 the third Tuesday of each month at Alladin's Eatery which has a nice selection of affordable, healthful choices. If you'd like to have a look at their menu, please click this link to their website.

To RSVP, please go to www.meetup.com/nc-wls. If you do not currently belong to the group, feel free to join so that you can RSVP and receive information about upcoming events.

Barbara
ObesityHelp Coach and Support Group Leader
http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/bcumbo_group/
High-264, Current-148, Goal-145

Barbara C.
on 11/16/11 11:44 pm - Raleigh, NC
Topic: Being open to change

Someone recently asked me what I thought they needed to do to make sure that they were successful  at losing the excess weight and just, if not more importantly, keeping it off. I think that one of the things is being open to change. What that means to each of us can be very different from one person to another. It is clear that we each have to find what works best for us where we are in our own journey. Not only do we need to realize that what works for one person may not work for another, but what worked for us at one juncture of our journey, may not be as effective in another. I guess I'm saying that we need to be open to change.

When I was losing weight I developed a whole set of skills and tools that helped me to take off the excess weight. Of course, my surgery did a great deal of the work for me. More than I think I acknowledged. That said, I too worked hard; I followed my program's dietary plan. It also meant that logged my intake and activity on a daily basis. This helped me develop an awareness of my intake and the value of that intake. All of these things helped me get the weight off, but they were not enough to help me keep it off.

As I got closer to maintenance, I thought that I understood what I needed to do to maintain my weight loss. While I had developed some skills that helped me be more aware of the value of my intake and activity, I didn't really fully appreciate weight of understanding the correlation of food and emotion. Learning to identify and more importantly for me, acknowledge dangerous behavior patterns have been key to my long term success in keeping the weight off. The tools and skills I use now to keep the weight off, are related to, but different than the skills I used to get the off

Barbara
ObesityHelp Coach and Support Group Leader
http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/bcumbo_group/
High-264, Current-148, Goal-145

Barbara C.
on 11/10/11 5:09 am - Raleigh, NC
Topic: I have been soooo tired...
I've been soooo tired, having headaches all of the time, feeling achy as though I had the flu, my hands and feet hurt, and my legs feel like they always wont to be on the move, to say that I'm fatigued is the understatement of the decade and I'm having much more problems with depression...  and now I know why. I went to my PCP with my laundry list of complaints and he ran very comprehensive labs. The long and the short of it is that my iron levels are off:

Serum Ferritin is low at 5, 
% Saturation is low normal at 16, 
Iron Binding Capacity is slightly high at 473
TIBC is okay at 78

I'm being scheduled for an iron infusion with my Hematologist that followed me for my Hemachromatosis. When I first broached having RNY we discussed that this was a possibilitly. I am hoping that an infusion will help me feel a little more like me again. 
 

Barbara
ObesityHelp Coach and Support Group Leader
http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/bcumbo_group/
High-264, Current-148, Goal-145

Barbara C.
on 10/12/11 4:56 am - Raleigh, NC
Topic: RE: Protein Requirements after Weight Loss Surgery

My pleasure! You might want to run those numbers past your Dr or RD before you make any changes.

See you soon, 

Barbara
ObesityHelp Coach and Support Group Leader
http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/bcumbo_group/
High-264, Current-148, Goal-145

Gail T.
on 10/12/11 4:51 am - Louisburg, NC
Topic: RE: Protein Requirements after Weight Loss Surgery
 Thanks, Barb!

Looks like I should be taking in closer to 70g a day even at 1.0g/kg IBW/day.  Guess I'd better start logging!

Gail in NC


Barbara C.
on 10/11/11 1:43 am - Raleigh, NC
Topic: Protein Requirements after Weight Loss Surgery
There are often a lot of questions and concerns about how much protein we need after bariatric surgery. This is a link to a paper that appeared in Bariatric Times. This paper titled Protein and the Bariatric Patient by Laura Frank, PhD, MPH, RD, CD, October 2008 appeared in the Bariatric Times (http://bariatrictimes.com/2008/10/07/protein-and-the-bariatr ic-patient-2/)

The conclusion of this discussion appears below: 

Protein Prescription for the Bariatric Patient 
Usual protein recommendations for the post-bariatric surgery patient are anywhere from 1 to 2g protein per kg of adjusted body weight—calculated as current body weight (CBW) minus ideal body weight (IBW) multiplied by 25 percent plus IBW [CBW-IBW x 25% + IBW]).25 A minimum of 60 to 70g of protein per day should be ingested.13 Many programs recommend a range of 60 to 80 grams total protein intake per day or 1.0 to 1.5g/kg IBW, although exact needs have yet to be defined. The use of 1.5g/kg IBW/day beyond the early post-surgical phase is probably above metabolic requirements for non-complicated patients and may prevent the consumption of other macronutrients in the context of volume restrictions. An analysis of the RYGB patient’s typical nutrient intake at one year postoperative found no significant changes in albumin with daily protein consumption at 1.1g/kg IBW.12 Following BPD/DS procedures, the amount of protein should be increased by approximately 30 percent to accommodate for malabsorption, making the average protein requirement for these patients approximately 90g/day.30

Here is a link to a Pound to KG conversion calculator you can use to determine your weight in KGs if you want to use the formulas above to determine the amount of protein necessary to support a healthy body post op.   Please make sure to check with your Dr. or Nutritionist before making any changes to the protein levels in your diet. 

Barbara
ObesityHelp Coach and Support Group Leader
http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/bcumbo_group/
High-264, Current-148, Goal-145

NanaRose142
on 10/3/11 12:05 pm - TX
Topic: RE: Vitamin D3 10K UI available at local Walgreens 2 for 1 Sale
How do you know which supplements will be absorbed?  I am waiting on insurance approval for the RNY.
Barbara C.
on 9/7/11 2:51 am - Raleigh, NC
Topic: Vitamin D3 10K UI available at local Walgreens 2 for 1 Sale

Just FYI -- If you need to take dry Vitamin D3, Walgreens stocks Natrol 10K UI Vitamin D3 tablets in their stores and has it online. It is regularly 9.99 for 60 tablets, but right now they are having 2 for 1 sale. I'm going to head over to my local Walgreens and pick some up. 

BTW, not all Vitamin D3 you find at the local drug store is equal. If you have had a malabsorbtive procedure you can't absorb it using the gel caps and need the dry, tablet version. Here is the URL the online information for this product so that you can order online or know what to look for if you go into your local store. http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/natrol-vitamin-d3-10%2c000- iu-dietary-supplement-tablets/ID=prod6063891-product

Barbara
ObesityHelp Coach and Support Group Leader
http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/bcumbo_group/
High-264, Current-148, Goal-145

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