Atkins and Low Carb Weight Loss

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(deactivated member)
on 1/21/11 1:25 am
VSG on 05/04/09 with
Topic: RE: Total Gym ?
I do medical transcription and yea, spousal abuse abounds, and my job is probably the main reason I had sensitivity to the male spousal thing. 

The dangerous product has probably not been recalled because SOMEWHERE in the instructions it PROBABLY says to check the pin, every time.

Probably.  :} I do not know though, because, well, I am not the instruction reader in this family.  I just fiddle with stuff until it works, or the instruction reader has finished reading, but usually by the time he is through, I already know how to work it.  Whatever it is.  :} 
Whacka Doodle
on 1/21/11 12:57 am
Topic: RE: Total Gym ?
 Cracked his skull????  That is simply terrifying.


(FWIW, decades ago I slashed open my pinky while cutting a potato.  I was pregnant at the time.  Husband rushed me to emergency room, where I was asked a bajillion times how it had happened -- apparently, spousal abuse is more common than we may think, and they wanted to make sure my husband had not done this to me!!!  

Why has this dangerous product NOT been recalled?!?!
Interested in low-carb nutrition?  Thinking of trying Atkins? Want to try high-fat and/or high-protein eating?  Whether or not you have had (or are thinking about) WLS   http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/atkins/   


Whacka Doodle
on 1/21/11 12:53 am
Topic: RE: Friday CARb Accountability Thread
It's very hard to decide the right way to begin adding favorable, limited carbs during Atkins' "Ongoing Weight Loss" phase.    The problem often is, people think that the Induction phase is IT ... and that's all there is to Atkins.  Not true!  The point is to learn how and when to restore certain carbohydrates during the second phase (OWL) ... via the "carbohydrate ladder" -- so that you can find your own maximum and optimal carbohydrate level for losing (as opposded to maintaining).

The carb ladder looks like this:

Phase 1, Induction:

Rung 1: Foundation vegetables: leafy greens and other low-carb vegetables

Rung 2: Dairy foods high in fat and low in carbs: cream, sour cream, and most hard cheeses

Phase 2, Ongoing Weight Loss:

Rung 3: Nuts and seeds (but not chestnuts)

Rung 4: Berries, cherries, and melon (but no****ermelon)

Rung 5: Whole milk yogurt and fresh cheeses, such as cottage cheese and ricotta

Rung 6: Legumes, including chickpeas, lentils, and the like

Rung 7: Tomato and vegetable juice “****tail" (plus more lemon and lime juice)

Phases 3 and 4, Pre-Maintenance and Lifetime Maintenance:

Rung 8: Other fruits (but not fruit juices or dried fruits)

Rung 9: Higher-carb vegetables, such as winter squash, carrots, and peas

Rung 10: Whole grains




Hope this helps!!!


Interested in low-carb nutrition?  Thinking of trying Atkins? Want to try high-fat and/or high-protein eating?  Whether or not you have had (or are thinking about) WLS   http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/atkins/   


MSW will not settle
on 1/21/11 12:46 am
Topic: RE: Thursday CAR?
I'm not yet in ketosos but its too soon for me on induction level carbs.  I have a hard time getting into ketosis at all.  It usually takes meat only for five days or my modified version of atkins fat fast.  I am easeing into it cutting further each week to see how low I have to go to get there. Sunday I will likely move onto modified fat fast. 

I use peanut spread to stretch my peanut butter.  No cal peanut spread is a walden farms zero sugar, carbs, fats, calories etc product.  On its own it is pretty gross and bears no resemblance to peanut butter.  Two parts creamy peanut butter to one part spread tastes like peanut butter but three tbsp for the calories of two. 
Lee ~
on 1/21/11 12:05 am - CA
Topic: RE: Wednesday CARb Accountability!!!

Hi Donna,

Can you post the calories/total carbs/protein on those shakes please?

HW: 249   SW: 229 GW: 149 Age: 63 - Body by Sauceda - 12/2011

Lee ~
on 1/21/11 12:02 am - CA
Topic: RE: Wednesday CARb Accountability!!!
Bravo bravo bravo Paul!  That is exceptional!!  You're really getting healthier by the day!  Kudos for the good job you're doing!

HW: 249   SW: 229 GW: 149 Age: 63 - Body by Sauceda - 12/2011

Lee ~
on 1/20/11 11:58 pm - CA
Topic: RE: Friday CARb Accountability Thread
Hi WD,

Sorry about that 1.5 pounds.  At least it wasn't a surprise!

Not sure yet what I'll be eating today.  Today is a work from home day and I also have a haircut and a 3.5 mile walk planned with friends this afternoon.   I'll keep my carbs below 20 as I'm still in my two week induction phase.  I'll probably just keep staying to around 20 even after Sunday which will finish off my two weeks.

I do have a question.  For those of you that do the Atkins Induction, do you find it helpful to stay at or below 20 carbs longterm, or do you start to up them.  I am in week two but haven't shed any weight this week.  It may be the sodium in the bacon and cheese, not sure. 

What do you find your optimal carb levels for letting go of pounds?

I'm in small ketones on the ketostix.  Regardless of how few carbs I eat, I never really go above that very often.  I've heard that it doesn't matter how dark the stix are, just so that it shows ketosis.  Also heard that being well hydrated keeps the color lighter.   Opinions?  Wisdom?  Always appreciated.  :)

Wishing you all a fun day!

HW: 249   SW: 229 GW: 149 Age: 63 - Body by Sauceda - 12/2011

Lee ~
on 1/20/11 11:52 pm - CA
Topic: RE: Low Carb???/
Hi Donna,

I think you're asking great questions which means that you're trying to figure out how to make this work for "you".  That's great because we all know that if a plan doesn't fit, we won't do it.

The thing about low fat items is that they generally add sugar and other fillers to make up in taste what we lose from the fat.  I mean salad dressings and mayo here.  If I want salad dressing I go for Blue Cheese.  I do eat Hellman's Lite Mayo, only because I can't stand the full mayo taste.

Now about those products, if you look at the label on an Atkins bar, you'll see that there are lots of carbs.  Some people subtract sugar alchohol and fiber.  I just count the full carbs because I have a very tricky mind and can then start changing the carbs on everything that I'd like to eat.  If it's a carb, I call it a carb regardless of where it came from.  It's my way of keeping me honest.  I'm one that always thought that if I ate in the closet, it didn't count and if the cookie was broken it didn't count and if at the end of the day I had too many calories, I just altered them.  Then years in OA and WLS allowed me to come out of the closet, count the cookie and accept that the calorie counts in myfitnesspal .com, or on the label are probably very accurate.

For me, the cravings for flour and sugar leave almost immediately.  I love how I feel in the morning when I wake up.  I love how my tummy feels when I'm on the Pilates mat.  I love that I can connect more easily to my body and what it's experiencing when I'm not processing flour and fruit sugars.  Do I miss them?  Well, when I see everyone sitting around slurping on a mango or a burrito, I might have some longing for those things, but the reality is that I love how my body feels when I'm burning fat and protein for energy.  I love that I can walk faster and swing my arms more freely when I'm walking.  I love the spark in my step.

So we each get to chose whether we want the products in our food plan.  I'd say experiment.  You're worth a week of detox.  Once you get all those carbs out of your system (which I hear takes 7 days to detox food) you may not want to go back.  Seeing the scale move is a mighty prompter for doing something different.

Do come to our daily CAR.  I like seeing what everyone is eating.  I like when people put down the calories etc because it's a good monitor for me, particularly when it's others who are still in the losing stage. 

I like that you're jumping right in.  I'm glad you're here!  :)

HW: 249   SW: 229 GW: 149 Age: 63 - Body by Sauceda - 12/2011

(deactivated member)
on 1/20/11 11:18 pm
VSG on 05/04/09 with
Topic: RE: Low Carb???/
I am incredibly sensitive to carbs, so in my regular breathing in and out life, I am a low carb eating human.

I eat full fat things.  I actually have a higher fat, moderate protein, low carb diet.  Higher fat is more satisfying to me, lower fat things typically have more sugars.  I try and stay away from frankenfoods too, as a general rule (foods created in a lab).

I do not do the low carb candies. I have a plan for foods that are possible danger foods for me (candies, chips, breads, et cetera) and I have a one INCIDENT a month policy, where its an anything goes MEAL (not day, meal).  And then I deal with the next 3 days of the decarb jonesing.  Some stuff you may find is worth the trouble, some stuff you may find is not.

For my sweet tooth, I make a peanutbutter/cocoa/cheese thing.  I mix Naturally More Peanut Butter 32 g (which has flax and wheat germ and egg whites, so it has higher protein and more fiber than typical peanut butter - they also have almond butter now. Its sweetened with cane sugar, but that does not seem to make me bingey) with 1 T of Hershey dark special unsweetened cocoa and roll it up in a slice of havarti.  It tastes like a reeces Peanut butter cup to me, and the nutritional stats are so much better.  NOW, that said, I am at goal and consume fairly high calories typically to maintain, and for the person in the losing phase, the calories for one may essentially be a meal, so you have to weigh whether its worth it.

I have at least one a day, more if I have little time in my day and need to make up calories. 

Some folks fuss they get fuzzy headed, cannot think, cannot function on low carb, and that may well be true for them, but for me, I am much more clear headed, more energized, wake up more alert, less time to get my ****e in a pile than when I am carb comatose.

The first little bit of decarbing some folks feel puny, I never did - my body really prefers to run this way, and I can tell the difference between regular days and the day after an anything goes meal. 

Good luck!  this is a great place for ideas and information. 
Whacka Doodle
on 1/20/11 10:50 pm
Topic: RE: Low Carb???/
The Atkins plan is avaiable online at www.atkins.com

Here is the Atkins Acceptable Foods List:  http://atkins.com/Files/AcceptableFoodsPhase1_0818.pdf


Hope this helps!


Interested in low-carb nutrition?  Thinking of trying Atkins? Want to try high-fat and/or high-protein eating?  Whether or not you have had (or are thinking about) WLS   http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/atkins/   


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