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Tuesday, September 11, 2018

Shel25
on 9/11/18 6:56 am

Good morning,

Liz, I got a close up view of your jeans as I zoomed on your shoes (which I liked a lot!) Your jeans don't look uncomfortably tight but I know exactly what you mean about feeling tight. I like to think it was just humid ;).

Ann, except for present company, I don't like talking about my eating habits with anyone. That group was lucky to have you. As for the others joining you......it is much like the "who wore it best?" in style magazines. I'm sure the audience found your content more compelling.

DianeO, good for you for recognizing old tapes and sticking with best practices.

It is official. I signed up for a Mt Rainier summit attempt in late June. The thought of it freaks me out then I remember that lots of people around here do it. I worry that I might be the only girl in the group -- how middle school is that? A fair amount of guides are women so hopefully they think about gender mix when assigning guides.

Enjoy the day,

Shel

HW:361 SW:304 (VSG 12/04/2014)Mo 1:-32  Mo 2:-13.5  Mo 3: -13.5  Mo 4 -9.5  Mo 5: -15  Mo 6: -15  Mo 7: -13.5  Mo 8: -17  Mo 9: -13  Mo 10: -12.5  11/3/2015 Healthy BMI Reached Mo 11: -9  Mo 12: -8    12/27/2015 Goal Weight Reached!

VSGAnn2014
on 9/11/18 10:51 am
VSG on 08/14/14

YEA!!! MOUNT RAINIER, HERE WE COME!!!

Don't you love my virtual participation. :)

ANN 5'5", AGE 74, HW 235.6 (BMI 39.2), SW 216, GW 150, CW 132, BMI 22

POUNDS LOST: Pre-op -20, M1 -10, M2 -11, M3 -10, M4 -10, M5 -7, M6 -5, M7 -6, M8 -4, M9 -4,
NEXT 10 MOS. -12, TOTAL -100 LBS.

Shel25
on 9/11/18 12:11 pm

The more the merrier!

HW:361 SW:304 (VSG 12/04/2014)Mo 1:-32  Mo 2:-13.5  Mo 3: -13.5  Mo 4 -9.5  Mo 5: -15  Mo 6: -15  Mo 7: -13.5  Mo 8: -17  Mo 9: -13  Mo 10: -12.5  11/3/2015 Healthy BMI Reached Mo 11: -9  Mo 12: -8    12/27/2015 Goal Weight Reached!

brownblonde
on 9/11/18 7:52 am

Wow this thread is hopping today!

Devon-Bright line diet--does that mean some things are off limits? Good list/bad list? I'm torn about this. As I've been struggling, I wonder if maybe I do need something more definite, if only for a short while. But I also know it's only a temporary fix for me. And so often it plays into my worse habit--when I slip up I decide to really light the thing on fire. So no-nos tend to make me go crazy. But it's something I've been contemplating.

Liz-well you certainly don't look heavy!! I hope you're enjoying your time. I have full confidence that you can rein it in when you get back. Just do what Ann does. "WWAD"

Diane O.-I have been weighing daily for almost the entire time post op. It's a huge difference from when I was on WW--but I also knew that I would lose after surgery and then it's been maintenance. Trying to lose weight now I find it a bit more depressing to weigh. However, if I don't, I revert to the old "I'll just eat chicken broth later" mentality...and not weighing makes me more and more fearful to own up to it. ON the other hand, I find daily weighing isn't terribly reliable for numbers, but rather patterns. For example I don't think you could've possibly gained 3lbs. overnight, right?! Knowing that truth is very helpful. And that's why I think ultimately I'll keep weighing. If I weigh every day, the most damage I could've done is one day. If the scale tells me it was 3lbs, I know it's lying. But it may shock me out of my complacency. Or if I keep doing what I've been doing, I'll see a trend emerge and that number will keep popping up, and I know it's time to get honest. Or so I say. Do what I say not what I do right?

Ann-I agree with you that there is a bit of grace in maintenance. I really think it is that commitment to doing better. Don't stop writing. It doesn't mean you can't go on vacations or through major life events like death or birth. What a fun lecture! 23% body fat sounds so low!! I estimate I'm at around 33%. My excuse is 6 months old. I need to get to work on that.

Paula-sounds like things are going so well, scale and life!

Shel-Mt. Rainier sounds awesome! And maybe being a little scared is exciting!

Weight: 166.8. I'll take it. After vowing to get back on the straight and narrow yesterday, I went to cinnamon roll town. Devon is so right--there is never a right time to go on a diet. And as much as I'd like to say "it's not a diet, it's a lifestyle" and yada yada, the reality is I have to eat less. And eating less is hard. For example, I've thought well the fair is coming up and I want to eat there, and it's Becca's baptism and we'll be going to lunch, and my MIL's birthday so I'll eat then, and then we're going to Aspen for the first week in October...and before you know it I can fill out the rest of the year in food obligations.

Maybe I need a new approach. Like I want to see 164 on the scale and then hold it. That's all. Hmmm

9/11. It was a Tuesday then too. Having grown up in Oklahoma City, terrorism was not new to us, not even as a child. I remember the Murrah Bombing here, but it was 9/11 that forever changed this country. May we never, ever forget.

        
Peps
on 9/11/18 1:04 pm

Oh yeah, restrictions, indeed! I doubt it's the food plan for you, but for me with my high addiction susceptibility, it is probably a very good option.

Essentially there are 4 Bright Lines:

  1. No sugar (no added sugar to any foods, but fruit, berries are okay)
  2. No Flour (no refined grain products, but whole grains are okay)
  3. 3 meals per day - No other eating unless one has physical limitations that inhibit one from getting all required foods in in 3 meals (e.g. bariatric surgery).
  4. Finite quantities of food. No more, never any less. When you are done for the day, you are done. Bright line. Boom!

One thing the author mentions in her writing is if these lines really trigger resistance and strong emotional reaction, it's most likely an addictive response to having one's fix taken away or limited.

It's been an interesting read, for sure!

brownblonde
on 9/11/18 1:09 pm

I definitely have a bratty reaction to being told (by myself, usually) to not eat sugar or to only eat 3x a day. "Because I SAID SO." But not sure it quite approaches emotional

But I also like what you say in the realm of "food training" that I had mentioned earlier. And it wouldn't have to be forever. Hmmm

Well I definitely hope that it's your ticket!

        
diane S.
on 9/11/18 10:51 am

Greetings Maintenance Peeps

151 again today. We ate the rest of the pizza last night (1/4 of a 12 inch veggie pizza) so I hardly expected any weight loss. Ahi tonight so back to healthy. I was cruising for Persian cucumbers yesterday at the health food store but none to be found. Wish we had Trader Joes.

Looks like a fun last night in Ireland Liz. On to Paris where you will likely walk your little feeties off. Enjoy.

RMR is interesting. I think I have every single thing that leads to a low RMR, the worst of which is a personality predisposition to slugdom. And I didn't know there was such a thing as sarcopenia but I am sure I have that too. Move it or lose it indeed. I can't do much with upper body weights but I guess I can just do the leg machines at the gym.

A man showed up early this morning to estimate gutter repairs. Turns out he thinks we need a new roof too. His company does not do them so I think he is right. I have had the same thought looking at the roof. Oh goodie. Now we have to look for contractors and estimates.

Shel, climbing Mt. Ranier is awesome! But isn't there snow up there year round? Do you get to ski down?

Ann, 23% body fat is great. Years ago mine was tested after reaching goal weight and it was 30% and Dr. Cirangle actually thought that was pretty good for my age. I shudder to think what it is now.

And Ann, what a pain at the wls intro group. I am sure the observers could tell who was the more successful wls patient and who they should listen too. I agree - why waste your time if others counteract your efforts.

Diane O, those 3 pounds will fade. I bet its fluid.

We live near the airport and plane sounds remind me of today's anniversary. Our law firm closed and sent everyone home as all our offices were in taller buildings. I remember it like it was yesterday. Today is also my great nephew's 4th birthday. Life goes on.

Studio work today and some final estate banking chores. Have a peaceful day all. Diane S


      
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Shel25
on 9/11/18 12:10 pm

I had never heard of sarcopenia, either and find it interesting that neither had you or Ann. Women are so worried about osteopenia/porsis. I can't help but feel that drug companies (which have bone building drugs but not muscle building drugs) have driven the focus on osteoporosis.

Mt Rainier has the most glaciers of any mtn in the lower 48. Yup, there is snow up there. We just plod thru it, trying not to fall into a crevasse. (see pic below) Once we get further down in just snow field, one can "glissade" on one's butt. That requires not picking up too much speed. There will be one day of mountaineering school where we learn skills like how to use an ax to self arrest. Also, look at use of ladders below.....so, if that is me and I fall into crevasse, I'll pull my team in, too, because we are roped together. Poor team.

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diane S.
on 9/11/18 12:14 pm

Yikes, makes me nervous to look at this picture. And yeah drug companies don't work on a muscle loss drug because there is another sure fire cure - weight lifting. ds


      
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Peps
on 9/11/18 12:55 pm

So, is it weird that I know what sacropenia is?

The Mt. Ranier trek sounded like a lot of fun until I saw this picture. No thanks!

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