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Maureen K.
on 6/12/12 1:49 am
 I dont think I dump but I do have a reaction to sugar when I eat it my stomach goes crazy it is like massive amounts of acid immediately form in there and my stomach starts talking and churning and turning. Especially with ice cream good thing I don't really like ice cream occasionally I will eat one bite of hubbys and there it goes. 

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(deactivated member)
on 6/12/12 2:09 am
Thank you everyone.  There is an interesting discussion of the research into this on the VSG main forum if you are interested.  It seems that the consensus is that in most cases, it is not real dumping, but possible RH or just plain old hypoglycemic reaction to faster gastric emptying.  I find this nerdy stuff fascinating. 
(deactivated member)
on 6/12/12 3:18 am, edited 6/12/12 3:23 am
I had to look up exactly what dumping is, in order to answer.  The answer is no for me.  Except for fats, I have been  dumping fats since my gallbladder was taken out in April of 2011 (6 months post-op). I wonder if this is the reason my cholesterol finally came down.  6 months ago, it was still 244, now, a year after the gallbladder was removed, it's at 184, and I have not taken any cholesterol meds.

Here's the definition of dumping if anyone else needs it:


Gastric dumping syndrome, or rapid gastric emptying, happens when the lower end of the small intestine, the jejunum, fills too quickly with undigested food from the stomach. "Early" dumping begins during or right after a meal. Symptoms of early dumping include nausea, vomiting, bloating, cramping, diarrhea, dizziness and fatigue. "Late" dumping happens 1 to 3 hours after eating. Symptoms of late dumping include weakness, sweating, and dizziness. Many people have both types.

It is speculated that "early" dumping is associated with difficulty digesting fats while "late" dumping is associated with carbohydrates.

In addition, people with this syndrome often suffer from low blood sugar, or Hypoglycemia , because the rapid "dumping" of food triggers the The Pancreas to release excessive amounts of insulin into the bloodstream. This type of hypoglycemia is referred to as "alimentary hypoglycemia".

Causes
Dumping syndrome is most common in patients with certain types of stomach surgery, such as a gastrectomy or gastric bypass surgery, that allow the stomach to empty rapidly. Dumping syndrome can also occur as a result of complications after a Cholecystectomy (gallbladder removal).[1]

source:
http://gdumping.blogspot.com/
debk21
on 6/12/12 10:43 am - Mansfield, TX
I did have one dumping episode when I put mandarin sauce on some chicken meatballs after being cleared for solid food.  I put the sauce on the meat to moisten it and within 15 minutes of eating it, I was dizzy, sweating and felt just horrible for about a 1/2 hour.  I had not overdone my portion and didn't really think that a tablespoon of that sauce would induce such a reaction but I do feel sure that it was the carbs in the sauce that did it.  I steered clear of it for at least a month before trying it again (you know, gotta experiment...) and have had no issues since that day with anything I've put in my tummy.  I'm not sure why that occurred that day, but it hasn't happened since, so I don't worry about it.  Interesting post on LapBand forum and ya just gotta love USAWife for letting her opinion be known.

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MacMadame
on 6/12/12 12:54 pm - Northern, CA
I never considered the sleeve to be 'restrictive only' because it's very metabolically active.

I do consider NanaB to be bat**** crazy though. She runs around looking for anything bad about the sleeve she can find in order to justify her choice to have a band. 

No, I don't dump and my reaction to sugar is the same as it always was. But even if it wasn't....

This "study" looked at reaction to sugar SIX WEEKS after surgery. At that time most of us aren't eating a lot of solid food and our systems are all screwed up. Oh and there were only 31 people in this so-called study. To conclude anything about any surgery using a handful of patients who are just 6 weeks out is just ludicrous. 

Which is not to say that no one dumps after VSG. Just that this study doesn't really prove anything one way or the other.

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tripmom02
on 6/12/12 1:28 pm - NJ
 I do consider NanaB to be bat**** crazy though. 

 
Glad I am not the only one LOL


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(deactivated member)
on 6/12/12 3:24 pm, edited 6/12/12 3:24 am
As always, a great assessment of the situation.
sassyscorpio
on 6/12/12 5:26 pm
I have definitely dumped. I find it insulting when someone with another WLS tells me that VSG does not cause dumping.

The first time it happened to me, I had tasted some wedding cake, and got really sick. I didn't know what was  happening to me. My daughter, who has had RNY said "Mom, you're dumping"


The first time I had ever eaten at a Cheesecake Factory, after having a few bites of cheese cake, I had to lay down for an hour on a couch. I felt lucky I  was able to find a couch at an unfamiliar mall in another city .

For me, it happens with foods high in fat AND sugar. But I've learned my lesson.

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loverofcats
on 6/12/12 11:38 pm

Foods high in fat and sugar are the foods that cause dumping or RH. Always have some protein with those type of foods and of course, in small amounts.

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LeahBea
on 6/12/12 9:03 pm
VSG on 05/31/11 with
I've dumped once. It was 6 or 7 months out from my surgery and I decided I was going to try a tbsp of peanut butter in my protein shake. I got, maybe, through 1/4 of the shake before I thought I was dying, lol. I got dizzy, confused and felt like I needed to lay down immediately and sleep for a thousand years. I laid down on the couch and slept for about 3 hours, when I woke up I still felt like trash... But less like death was around the corner.

I was terrified of peanut butter for months!

I can happily report that I can now tolerate peanut butter! I just try to be more mindful of how I'm feeling as I eat. But that applies to all food, not just the peanut butter.

Leah
    
                                            

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