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Main VSG Board - Justifications
Man, this is really tough, and is a sensitive subject for me. I want to reach out to help people - I don't mind they aren't using the search function. I do mind the other thing you mention about people looking for permission to justify coming off plan.
This woman today was griping about how surgery was different "for her" and it didn't seem fair - she didn't seem to have the awesome restriction that the rest of us have. She could, for instance, eat an entire box of cookies if she eats through them all slowly all day long. So she wants us to know that not everyone gets this amazing VSG surgery because she didn't.
She said: " I am four months out and have always had very little restriction. I can eat a whole package at 2-3 cookies at a time, if I eat some every 20 mins or so. If you drink (Truly do NOT every drink while you eat) you can consume more. Oreos dissolve in your mouth mostly. Thin mints dissolve. Your saliva increases (at least mine did over time) and then you can dissolve more in your mouth. Its better in my opinion to NOT pu**** and NOT see what you CAN eat and rather make an emotional decision right after surgery as to what you WILL eat. I wish someone had advised me of that.
You will read people post about how they eat "just anything they want" in small amounts and the "weight just falls off." That wasn't my experience. Some people have to work harder at it. That would be moi. " The irony is that she's actually been losing weight at a good clip regardless.
Ugh. UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess people just seem ignorant - like there's no preparation by them OR their medical teams to set expectation and deliver knowledge. It's one thing to know that cookies can be a slider food, it's another to believe that you should have good restriction with them.
Oh yea... so how do I get past this and still stay positive and helpful?
Well, I'm thick-headed, so that helps, and every so often I'm not so positive about my suggestions. But maybe it's the scientist in me too - I'm used to trying things and failing - that's what most research is - trying to move forward and failing most of the time. So maybe I'm a bit more home. Nah, it's that I'm thick-headed.
This woman today was griping about how surgery was different "for her" and it didn't seem fair - she didn't seem to have the awesome restriction that the rest of us have. She could, for instance, eat an entire box of cookies if she eats through them all slowly all day long. So she wants us to know that not everyone gets this amazing VSG surgery because she didn't.
She said: " I am four months out and have always had very little restriction. I can eat a whole package at 2-3 cookies at a time, if I eat some every 20 mins or so. If you drink (Truly do NOT every drink while you eat) you can consume more. Oreos dissolve in your mouth mostly. Thin mints dissolve. Your saliva increases (at least mine did over time) and then you can dissolve more in your mouth. Its better in my opinion to NOT pu**** and NOT see what you CAN eat and rather make an emotional decision right after surgery as to what you WILL eat. I wish someone had advised me of that.
You will read people post about how they eat "just anything they want" in small amounts and the "weight just falls off." That wasn't my experience. Some people have to work harder at it. That would be moi. " The irony is that she's actually been losing weight at a good clip regardless.
Ugh. UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess people just seem ignorant - like there's no preparation by them OR their medical teams to set expectation and deliver knowledge. It's one thing to know that cookies can be a slider food, it's another to believe that you should have good restriction with them.
Oh yea... so how do I get past this and still stay positive and helpful?
Well, I'm thick-headed, so that helps, and every so often I'm not so positive about my suggestions. But maybe it's the scientist in me too - I'm used to trying things and failing - that's what most research is - trying to move forward and failing most of the time. So maybe I'm a bit more home. Nah, it's that I'm thick-headed.
I was having a rough couple of days when I read that post, didn't log on for several days after that b/c I just.could.not.do.it. I knew with the way I was feeling I would probably tell her to buy stock in Nabisco and then she would not have to feel guilty about eating the cookies.
I am not in a positive or helpful place right now, so I choose to just post to people I like.
I am not in a positive or helpful place right now, so I choose to just post to people I like.
I wish i could be like you. I tend to start reading that kind of garbage and push forward with something positive but i'm afraid i will get to the end type out your an idiot and actually hit post reply. I know we are all far from perfect but for the love of god you just had major surgery to lose weight, why would you sabotage that a few months in. Crazy...
I'm in the middle-ground still, most days.. I read on the main forum daily, not opening all posts, just some. Some I entirely skip over when I see who posted it, some I read the first line.. I skip past a lot now, and I tend to only offer advice when I feel like I have some shared experience to expound on. I have chatty days where I'll post a lot on multiple threads, and days where my patience is sorely tested where I sit on my hands instead of typing in how I really feel..
I admit, I do it to both pay it forward to those I feel like are actually listening and absorbing it- and also for me to stay in the loop myself.
I had to take a break from there for quite some time, and probably will on and off.. it gets frustrating, and I don't need to increase stress by reading about people I don't even know posting wonky stuff on an online forum and receiving equally wonky advice.. when I start seeing/feeling that.. I back away slowly and unplug. So, I only tend to post when I'm in a centered and happy mood.
I also find I spend waaaay too much time on the internet, and that is one thing I need to start moderating myself! So, I may be gone more often than I'm here in the coming weeks.
I admit, I do it to both pay it forward to those I feel like are actually listening and absorbing it- and also for me to stay in the loop myself.
I had to take a break from there for quite some time, and probably will on and off.. it gets frustrating, and I don't need to increase stress by reading about people I don't even know posting wonky stuff on an online forum and receiving equally wonky advice.. when I start seeing/feeling that.. I back away slowly and unplug. So, I only tend to post when I'm in a centered and happy mood.
I also find I spend waaaay too much time on the internet, and that is one thing I need to start moderating myself! So, I may be gone more often than I'm here in the coming weeks.
Hi guys!
interesting thread, though not surprising. i think one of the reasons people migrate over here is that they can't take it anymore on the main forum. i sometimes feel like ii should be over here, but i'm still in losing mode, so is that maintenance??? i'm also kind of scared of y'all snce i'm not as strict as many. i still battle with my thinking a lot (therapy, monthly NUT appt) since i didn't get a new brain with my new tummy, so that makes me feel behind the maintenance curve sometimes.
i'm kind of like jo. i don't answer every post (unless i feel wild and crazy) but i like to answer things like people getting ins approval or about to have surgery, or, i don't know. i do know that i valued experienced people answering my early questions and that i miss a lot of those people!!! i also try to put up the FAQs that someone put together way back for newbies and they seem very grateful.
still paying it forward. for some reason, the idiots don't bother me. at all. i just ignore it!
hugs to all. miss you guys!!! will come around more!! (((((((((hugs))))))))))))
interesting thread, though not surprising. i think one of the reasons people migrate over here is that they can't take it anymore on the main forum. i sometimes feel like ii should be over here, but i'm still in losing mode, so is that maintenance??? i'm also kind of scared of y'all snce i'm not as strict as many. i still battle with my thinking a lot (therapy, monthly NUT appt) since i didn't get a new brain with my new tummy, so that makes me feel behind the maintenance curve sometimes.
i'm kind of like jo. i don't answer every post (unless i feel wild and crazy) but i like to answer things like people getting ins approval or about to have surgery, or, i don't know. i do know that i valued experienced people answering my early questions and that i miss a lot of those people!!! i also try to put up the FAQs that someone put together way back for newbies and they seem very grateful.
still paying it forward. for some reason, the idiots don't bother me. at all. i just ignore it!
hugs to all. miss you guys!!! will come around more!! (((((((((hugs))))))))))))
OMG someone actually posted that they have no restriction with oreos???? sheesh
Anyway I stopped going on vsg board because I was bored there. I actually stopped coming on OH a lot period. I think that is what we are supposed to do at some point because we have to get out there and be active. Since there is no OH app for my droid I have to actually sit in front of my laptop...no thanks unless im not feeling well or something. I have freinds that I have in my life that are going through the process so that is my give back.
I think its a natural process the board will take care of itself..
Anyway I stopped going on vsg board because I was bored there. I actually stopped coming on OH a lot period. I think that is what we are supposed to do at some point because we have to get out there and be active. Since there is no OH app for my droid I have to actually sit in front of my laptop...no thanks unless im not feeling well or something. I have freinds that I have in my life that are going through the process so that is my give back.
I think its a natural process the board will take care of itself..