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Food irritation, confussion xpost (thought you vets could help) :-)
I know this goes against other ppl's success on the board and that's fine. Not everything works for everyone.
The only time(s) I have counted calories I've failed at whatever diet I was on.
I do not believe fat is bad for you. It's actually the sugar that turns into fat that clogs our arteries.
I stay away from sugar especially high fructose corn syrup and artificial sweetners.
To get to the weight I am I had many downfalls or slip ups. At least a few a week and by other people's standards maybe 1 a day.
Here are some typical meals I've eaten over the past year repeatedly.
An egg 2 pieces of bacon 1/2 or 1/3 piece of toast w/butter
Eggs/bacon/sausage in a low carb totillia
Chicken wings with blue cheese
chicken shreaded with butter/hot sauce and blue cheese (same as wings pretty much)
Salads with cheese and meat on them
Lots of cheeses, cottage cheese, string, cubes, slices with a couple crackers or cottage cheese with nuts on top.
fish fish and fish...yum fish
beans with cheese or red beans and rice (just about 2 or 3 tbs rice) Btw I make a MEAN rb&r recipe packed with protien
My Dr told me to stay away from sauces, butters, dressings. I don't. My stay away from (unless it's occasional) are sugars (especially HFCS), lots of empty carbs, and I try to stay away from sodas unless I REALLY want one. Then 3-4 sips and Im done and burping.
The only time(s) I have counted calories I've failed at whatever diet I was on.
I do not believe fat is bad for you. It's actually the sugar that turns into fat that clogs our arteries.
I stay away from sugar especially high fructose corn syrup and artificial sweetners.
To get to the weight I am I had many downfalls or slip ups. At least a few a week and by other people's standards maybe 1 a day.
Here are some typical meals I've eaten over the past year repeatedly.
An egg 2 pieces of bacon 1/2 or 1/3 piece of toast w/butter
Eggs/bacon/sausage in a low carb totillia
Chicken wings with blue cheese
chicken shreaded with butter/hot sauce and blue cheese (same as wings pretty much)
Salads with cheese and meat on them
Lots of cheeses, cottage cheese, string, cubes, slices with a couple crackers or cottage cheese with nuts on top.
fish fish and fish...yum fish
beans with cheese or red beans and rice (just about 2 or 3 tbs rice) Btw I make a MEAN rb&r recipe packed with protien
My Dr told me to stay away from sauces, butters, dressings. I don't. My stay away from (unless it's occasional) are sugars (especially HFCS), lots of empty carbs, and I try to stay away from sodas unless I REALLY want one. Then 3-4 sips and Im done and burping.
5'6" Start-276 Goal-150 Weight loss Preop=5 Month 1=25 Month 2=10 Month 3=14 Month 4=3 Month 5=7 Month 6=9 Month 7=7 Month 8=7 Month 9=9 Month 10=7 Month 11=5 Month 12=5 Month 13=3 Month 14=4 
I could not agree more the with above poster.
I speak for myself here, and no one else. I have been low cal, low fat, low carb, and on a diet roller-coaster for most of my life - starting when I was in 6th grade. After surgery, I was determined to NOT get back on that roller coaster. I did my own plan after sugery. Of course I followed my surgeon's guidelines as far as liquids to mushies to solid food, etc - but followed my own logic and experience as far as *what* I was eating. I dropped down to a size 6, and have maintained within 4 lbs for almost 9 months give or take....lost almost all of my weight within a few months of surgery.
I firmly believe after being low carb for so long, that my body became used to it. When I dared go off of it - I ballooned in size. Same thing with low cal and low fat, and exercise to be honest.
What I learned from this is a simple rule that I live by now: Whatever you are doing, you must be prepared to do it for life - because your body will get used to it, and will rebel in some way, shape, or form when you stop doing it.
Because of this, I had decided my "rules" early on (before my surgery actually). I knew that going from "normal" pre-surgery portions to after surgery portions alone would probably be enough for me to lose the weight. I do not deprive myself of anything, nor do I indulge. Take ice cream, for example. If I want it (which only happens like once every few months) I will take a spoon (the regular kind you eat with) and have 1 spoon full of it. I won't even use a bowl, I just slowly eat it off the spoon. I also put it back in the freezer immediately so I don't walk by it and grab another spoon-ful because it happens to be there!It is enough to make me feel as though I had some ice cream. Another rule of mine as well - I take my portion and put the rest way immediately (in fridge or freezer, etc) as I am much less likely to pull it out and re heat. If it happens to be there, I will eat out of bordem.
I decided a few healthy things that are "must haves" on a daily basis, which are: greek yogurt, string cheese, and a scoop of protein powder at least once a day. This is the only way I've found to get my protein in. Things that I eat on a regular basis - I find a way to make them "lighter" if you will. Sugar-free syrup in my espresso & full fat heavy cream (no carbs) as opposed to skim or regular milk.
I do not count calories, fats, or carbs - but am so used to counting from my 'previous' life - I make healthy choices almost by default. I will always be high protein/lower carb because I believe that's the way our bodies are supposed to be - not because I feel that I must do it to maintain weight loss like I used to.
It sounds to me like your surgeon advocates for a 'lower fat' plan, as opposed to a 'lower carb'. You will have to do some research and decide for yourself if you want to be low carb or low fat. Only 3 things make up ANY food we eat. Carbs, Fat, and Protein. You cannot remove both and only have protein, so it's a choice that you must make. If you are only eating lean meats - I can only assume he/she is doing it due to the fat content - unless he's afraid of caloric content, but I can't imagine you are able to eat that much this early out.
Here are my reasons for choosing low carb:
I have PCOS, and if there is anything I have learned on THAT journey is that fat is not bad for you, it is sugar that is the enemy. I have researched weight, diabetes, blood sugar, GI Index, cancer, effects of fats & carbs on the body & brain in general, and this is what I've learned.
-sugar (carbs) is what cancer feeds on. Studies are starting to show that extreme low carb can stop or slow cancer's progression.
-sugar causes us to have high cholesterol - NOT FAT (Read protein power by the Eades). Multiple studies have been done on this.
-sugar gives a reaction in the brain similar to nicotine or street drugs, creating a high that we will ultimately need more and more to get again.
-our bodies need minimal carbs to survive. Carbs didn't exist back in the old days - and the ones that did were from berries & fruits, which have lower carbs & GI indexes than our breads & pastas of today. Grains, corn, bread, etc - all of these were created (by man) in order to supply the food demand of the world.
-carbs have historically been used to 'fatten up' people - in times of hunger or depression, etc. It is also why formula & breast milk have such high sugar contents. It is to fatten up babies, as it is a fact that babies that have some weight behind them have a far better chance of survival through the age of 5.
-the best thing for our bodies is to be in homostasis. Protein and fats have minimal impact on blood sugar. Carbs have a horrible effect. The reason for the sugar high and then crash is because with that much sugar in our blood, we can die - so the body kicks it into panic mode to get rid of the sugar at any cost. It is a bad thing for our bodies to be up and down like that, and after time, we can't do it - hence when Diabetes comes into the picture. Protein & fat create a steady and slow incline and decline that our bodies actually desire.
- sorry. I'm very passionate about diabetes/carbs and the horrible things they do to our bodies. If I can recommend one book, it's the Protein Power Lifeplan by the Eades (husband & wife team, by Mary & Michael Eades). They are cardiologists who got sick of seeing patients die of heart attacks after being so compliant with the low fat lifestyle. The began putting ALL of their money into research, trials, and studies to find out what was going on. Their books are all about the science and studies behind their words - unlike Atkins who just sort of said, "do this to avoid being fat". His plan was genious - but I need the science in order to believe!!!
I speak for myself here, and no one else. I have been low cal, low fat, low carb, and on a diet roller-coaster for most of my life - starting when I was in 6th grade. After surgery, I was determined to NOT get back on that roller coaster. I did my own plan after sugery. Of course I followed my surgeon's guidelines as far as liquids to mushies to solid food, etc - but followed my own logic and experience as far as *what* I was eating. I dropped down to a size 6, and have maintained within 4 lbs for almost 9 months give or take....lost almost all of my weight within a few months of surgery.
I firmly believe after being low carb for so long, that my body became used to it. When I dared go off of it - I ballooned in size. Same thing with low cal and low fat, and exercise to be honest.
What I learned from this is a simple rule that I live by now: Whatever you are doing, you must be prepared to do it for life - because your body will get used to it, and will rebel in some way, shape, or form when you stop doing it.
Because of this, I had decided my "rules" early on (before my surgery actually). I knew that going from "normal" pre-surgery portions to after surgery portions alone would probably be enough for me to lose the weight. I do not deprive myself of anything, nor do I indulge. Take ice cream, for example. If I want it (which only happens like once every few months) I will take a spoon (the regular kind you eat with) and have 1 spoon full of it. I won't even use a bowl, I just slowly eat it off the spoon. I also put it back in the freezer immediately so I don't walk by it and grab another spoon-ful because it happens to be there!It is enough to make me feel as though I had some ice cream. Another rule of mine as well - I take my portion and put the rest way immediately (in fridge or freezer, etc) as I am much less likely to pull it out and re heat. If it happens to be there, I will eat out of bordem.
I decided a few healthy things that are "must haves" on a daily basis, which are: greek yogurt, string cheese, and a scoop of protein powder at least once a day. This is the only way I've found to get my protein in. Things that I eat on a regular basis - I find a way to make them "lighter" if you will. Sugar-free syrup in my espresso & full fat heavy cream (no carbs) as opposed to skim or regular milk.
I do not count calories, fats, or carbs - but am so used to counting from my 'previous' life - I make healthy choices almost by default. I will always be high protein/lower carb because I believe that's the way our bodies are supposed to be - not because I feel that I must do it to maintain weight loss like I used to.
It sounds to me like your surgeon advocates for a 'lower fat' plan, as opposed to a 'lower carb'. You will have to do some research and decide for yourself if you want to be low carb or low fat. Only 3 things make up ANY food we eat. Carbs, Fat, and Protein. You cannot remove both and only have protein, so it's a choice that you must make. If you are only eating lean meats - I can only assume he/she is doing it due to the fat content - unless he's afraid of caloric content, but I can't imagine you are able to eat that much this early out.
Here are my reasons for choosing low carb:
I have PCOS, and if there is anything I have learned on THAT journey is that fat is not bad for you, it is sugar that is the enemy. I have researched weight, diabetes, blood sugar, GI Index, cancer, effects of fats & carbs on the body & brain in general, and this is what I've learned.
-sugar (carbs) is what cancer feeds on. Studies are starting to show that extreme low carb can stop or slow cancer's progression.
-sugar causes us to have high cholesterol - NOT FAT (Read protein power by the Eades). Multiple studies have been done on this.
-sugar gives a reaction in the brain similar to nicotine or street drugs, creating a high that we will ultimately need more and more to get again.
-our bodies need minimal carbs to survive. Carbs didn't exist back in the old days - and the ones that did were from berries & fruits, which have lower carbs & GI indexes than our breads & pastas of today. Grains, corn, bread, etc - all of these were created (by man) in order to supply the food demand of the world.
-carbs have historically been used to 'fatten up' people - in times of hunger or depression, etc. It is also why formula & breast milk have such high sugar contents. It is to fatten up babies, as it is a fact that babies that have some weight behind them have a far better chance of survival through the age of 5.
-the best thing for our bodies is to be in homostasis. Protein and fats have minimal impact on blood sugar. Carbs have a horrible effect. The reason for the sugar high and then crash is because with that much sugar in our blood, we can die - so the body kicks it into panic mode to get rid of the sugar at any cost. It is a bad thing for our bodies to be up and down like that, and after time, we can't do it - hence when Diabetes comes into the picture. Protein & fat create a steady and slow incline and decline that our bodies actually desire.
- sorry. I'm very passionate about diabetes/carbs and the horrible things they do to our bodies. If I can recommend one book, it's the Protein Power Lifeplan by the Eades (husband & wife team, by Mary & Michael Eades). They are cardiologists who got sick of seeing patients die of heart attacks after being so compliant with the low fat lifestyle. The began putting ALL of their money into research, trials, and studies to find out what was going on. Their books are all about the science and studies behind their words - unlike Atkins who just sort of said, "do this to avoid being fat". His plan was genious - but I need the science in order to believe!!!
History: Highest:259 Surgery Day:227 Current:151 Goal:145 Surgeon Goal: 160
Size 6 & loving it ~ My sleeve has given me my life back~ 
Size 6 & loving it ~ My sleeve has given me my life back~ 
