VSG Maintenance Group
Do you ever get tired?
I'm curious when you say your body wants to be larger. What makes you feel this way?
I am a big believer in the set point. I think our bodies have a set point, a weight they want to be, and they fight to stay at that weight. For me, surgery reset my set point. My body now wants to be the same weight I want it to be. (In fact, it wants to be smaller than I thought I wanted to be. LOL)
This means, once I was able to accept this and trust it, maintenance got a lot easier and there is a lot less fighting involved. I still fight with myself sometimes, but it's all mental. It's not fighting the scale or intense hunger or any of the things I fought pre-op. It's more that I need to trust that just because I feel hungrier today than some online food diary says I should that I can eat and it won't be the start of a slippery slope up the scale to Morbid Obesity when trusting is hard. It's also trusting that if I get off track, like I did at Halloween this year, that all I have to do is think "um, you need to get a grip" and watch what I eat for a few days and the weight comes back off.
I have seen people whose new set point after surgery was still higher than they wanted to be, though. For some, just 1-10 lb. higher but for others a lot higher. Like maybe thei
r body fought to be 350 before but now it fights to be 200 and they really need to be more like 140-150 to be healthy.
Personally, if my set point turned out to be 10 lb. heavier than I am now, I don't think I'd fight it. I'd call that my "happy" weight and move on. But going through all this to still be 50 lb. overweight? That would be a tough one to deal with!
Anyway, I'm curious if you are one whose new set point is still at an overweight point or if it's just that you don't trust yourself yet. If it's the later, then it will get easier and you won't be fighting all the time and hence won't be tired...
I am a big believer in the set point. I think our bodies have a set point, a weight they want to be, and they fight to stay at that weight. For me, surgery reset my set point. My body now wants to be the same weight I want it to be. (In fact, it wants to be smaller than I thought I wanted to be. LOL)
This means, once I was able to accept this and trust it, maintenance got a lot easier and there is a lot less fighting involved. I still fight with myself sometimes, but it's all mental. It's not fighting the scale or intense hunger or any of the things I fought pre-op. It's more that I need to trust that just because I feel hungrier today than some online food diary says I should that I can eat and it won't be the start of a slippery slope up the scale to Morbid Obesity when trusting is hard. It's also trusting that if I get off track, like I did at Halloween this year, that all I have to do is think "um, you need to get a grip" and watch what I eat for a few days and the weight comes back off.
I have seen people whose new set point after surgery was still higher than they wanted to be, though. For some, just 1-10 lb. higher but for others a lot higher. Like maybe thei
r body fought to be 350 before but now it fights to be 200 and they really need to be more like 140-150 to be healthy.
Personally, if my set point turned out to be 10 lb. heavier than I am now, I don't think I'd fight it. I'd call that my "happy" weight and move on. But going through all this to still be 50 lb. overweight? That would be a tough one to deal with!
Anyway, I'm curious if you are one whose new set point is still at an overweight point or if it's just that you don't trust yourself yet. If it's the later, then it will get easier and you won't be fighting all the time and hence won't be tired...
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interesting comments about the set point, M. i sort of think that too and thats why traditional weight loss was such a f-----ing disaster and failing proposition. but we now know about ghrelin and such. not sure how to go about finding that set point. you may have read on the main vsg forum that i had one of those dunk tank body fat tests as well as the resting metabolic test. was really most interested in the metabolic test as i have always suspected i had a really slow one in spite of years of normal thyroid tests. so i reported that my resting caloric need per day was 936 which is considered pretty slow even for my age. nothing to do about it except increase muscle mass. i got this test so i could use it to help determine calories for maintenance. i remember dr. jossart once saying that for many of his patients , 1200 or so calories was about what maintenance was going to be. think i can live with that if my sleeve continues to work as it has and i can maintain some habits. but no wonder i got so fat. what a slug i am. but i really reallly really want to remain in a normal bmi range for life. one day at a time i guess. D
Dr. C says the same thing... that many patients end up in the 1000-1200 calorie range.
So they all need to take up triathlon! Or something...
Seriously, it's a lot easier to maintain on 2000 calories a day than on 1200. Plus all my nice muscles put my base calories around 1550-1650 which is a piece of cake (ahem) for me to maintain.
So they all need to take up triathlon! Or something...
Seriously, it's a lot easier to maintain on 2000 calories a day than on 1200. Plus all my nice muscles put my base calories around 1550-1650 which is a piece of cake (ahem) for me to maintain.
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good point but don't look for me at any triathalons any time soon. more likely to do weight work which is sort of fun. maybe i will get into competitive body building! i will be the one in the g string with all the loose skin hanging over it! and would have to get a spray on tan as i am a paleface. lol, but you are right about the muscle mass. just wi**** came in a bottle or someting. D
I am completely cracking up here ... I have tears in my eyes from laughing so hard.
When I read your post, I had a mental image of me with a g string. I would look just like you said. Eeeewwww! But, maybe the tan would help. LOL
When I read your post, I had a mental image of me with a g string. I would look just like you said. Eeeewwww! But, maybe the tan would help. LOL
Revision from Sleeve to DS (with re-Sleeve) on 10/10/17. Slow and steady ...
glad i made you laugh. made myself laugh too. i am sure if i put on a g string it would completely disappear under skin sags. i would get arrested!
i am just not the sporty type. wish i were but am just not. but i did have a very active day and cleaned house for hours and sorted clothes and picked up weeks of house mess after having been away for 3 weeks,loads of laundry and on and on. i prefer my exercise to result in not just sweat but some completed chores as well. guess thats why I'm a "puddin" as I heard one doctor put it.
and yeah, just think of the outfits those body building chicks wear. not that there is anything wrong with the sport because its great - especially that women get into it too, but with the saggy skin i have now after deflating by 118 lbs, it would be a disservice to humanity to wear any such thing. thats why i had to buy the bathing suit with the "tea length" skirt on it. saggy inner thighs. oh well. tight jeans hold them in and i look pretty hot in them for an old broad. and there ain't enough spray on tan on the planet to make a difference for me. D
i am just not the sporty type. wish i were but am just not. but i did have a very active day and cleaned house for hours and sorted clothes and picked up weeks of house mess after having been away for 3 weeks,loads of laundry and on and on. i prefer my exercise to result in not just sweat but some completed chores as well. guess thats why I'm a "puddin" as I heard one doctor put it.
and yeah, just think of the outfits those body building chicks wear. not that there is anything wrong with the sport because its great - especially that women get into it too, but with the saggy skin i have now after deflating by 118 lbs, it would be a disservice to humanity to wear any such thing. thats why i had to buy the bathing suit with the "tea length" skirt on it. saggy inner thighs. oh well. tight jeans hold them in and i look pretty hot in them for an old broad. and there ain't enough spray on tan on the planet to make a difference for me. D