Back On Track Together

Groups » Back On Track Togeth... » Discussion » Low carb or Low fat...

Low carb or Low fat? article

H.A.L.A B.
on 9/2/14 1:20 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/02/health/low-carb-vs-low-fat -diet.html?_r=0

A Call for a Low-Carb Diet

People who avoid carbohydrates and eat more fat, even saturated fatlose more body fat and have fewer cardiovascular risks than people who follow the low-fat diet that health authorities have favored for decades, a major new study shows.

The findings are unlikely to be the final salvo in what has been a long and often contentious debate about what foods are best to eat for weight loss and overall health. The notion that dietary fat is harmful, particularly saturated fat, arose decades ago from comparisons of disease rates among large national populations.

But more recent clinical studies in which individuals and their diets were assessed over time have produced a more complex picture. Some have provided strong evidence that people can sharply reduce their heart disease risk by eating fewer carbohydrates and more dietary fat, with the exception of trans fats. The new findings suggest that this strategy more effectively reduces body fat and also lowers overall weight.

The new study was financed by the National Institutes of Health and published in the Annals of Internal Medicine. It included a racially diverse group of 150 men and women — a rarity in clinical nutrition studies — who were assigned to follow diets for one year that limited either the amount of carbs or fat that they could eat, but not overall calories. 

People who avoid carbohydrates and eat more fat, even saturated fatlose more body fat and have fewer cardiovascular risks than people who follow the low-fat diet that health authorities have favored for decades, a major new study shows.

The findings are unlikely to be the final salvo in what has been a long and often contentious debate about what foods are best to eat for weight loss and overall health. The notion that dietary fat is harmful, particularly saturated fat, arose decades ago from comparisons of disease rates among large national populations.

But more recent clinical studies in which individuals and their diets were assessed over time have produced a more complex picture. Some have provided strong evidence that people can sharply reduce their heart disease risk by eating fewer carbohydrates and more dietary fat, with the exception of trans fats. The new findings suggest that this strategy more effectively reduces body fat and also lowers overall weight.

(>>)http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/02/health/low-carb-vs-low-fat -diet.html?_r=0

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

Shelia J.
on 9/2/14 5:35 am - Norfolk, VA

This sounds like the same article that Dr. Nancy Snyderman was quoting on the "Today Show" this morning.  She also mentioned higher protein, including whole eggs.  Like you, H.a.l.a., I have increased my good fats and the payoff is great!  Greater satiety for longer periods.

SW: 344  LW: 167  RGW: 238  CW: 160.5  GW: 160

    

    

    

    

H.A.L.A B.
on 9/2/14 5:46 am

right? and stable BS... even if i don't eat a lot and get hungry - my BS stays stable !!! If I have to - I can eat every 4-6 hrs ...as long as I have very few carbs with my meal..(I still need some carbs - but not many..). 

There is another great article about food insulin index-  even meats and pure proteins need insulin - that why lean proteins with no carbs (like whey isolate shake on water) may cause bad RH..

 

An insulin index of foods: the insulin demand generated by 1000-kJ portions of common foods.

Abstract

The aim of this study was to systematically compare postprandial insulin responses to isoenergetic 1000-kJ (240-kcal) portions of several common foods. Correlations with nutrient content were determined. Thirty-eight foods separated into six food categories (fruit, bakery products, snacks, carbohydrate-rich foods, protein-rich foods, and breakfast cereals) were fed to groups of 11-13 healthy subjects. Finger-***** blood samples were obtained every 15 min over 120 min. An insulin score was calculated from the area under the insulin response curve for each food with use of white bread as the reference food (score = 100%). Significant differences in insulin score were found both within and among the food categories and also among foods containing a similar amount of carbohydrate. Overall, glucose and insulin scores were highly correlated (r = 0.70, P < 0.001, n = 38). However, protein-rich foods and bakery products (rich in fat and refined carbohydrate) elicited insulin responses that were disproportionately higher than their glycemic responses. Total carbohydrate (r = 0.39, P < 0.05, n = 36) and sugar (r = 0.36, P < 0.05, n = 36) contents were positively related to the mean insulin scores, whereas fat (r = -0.27, NS, n = 36) and protein (r = -0.24, NS, n = 38) contents were negatively related. Consideration of insulin scores may be relevant to the dietary management and pathogenesis of non-insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus and hyperlipidemia and may help increase the accuracy of estimating preprandial insulin requirements.

 

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

Shelia J.
on 9/2/14 10:59 am - Norfolk, VA

Right!  And the stable blood sugar is the reason for the satiety.  Carbs beget carbs, beget carbs...

I have RH also, and I can tell you almost to the "T", exactly which foods will cause it.  Good thing about mine is I always get an "aura" about a minute before the shakes start, and my knees turn to jelly.  It begins EVERY TIME with 2 large floating white globs in my field of vision...looks just like the blobs in a lava lamp.  And I can see them with my eyes open or closed.  Weird!!!

SW: 344  LW: 167  RGW: 238  CW: 160.5  GW: 160

    

    

    

    

H.A.L.A B.
on 9/2/14 1:08 pm

O yea....the RH aura...i get it also....i get rather restless just before the aura -need to clean my kitchen RIGT now restless...lol.

I used to get really hungry with RH..but lately i get the low BS and i know i have to stuff my face, but i really don't want to, food makes me gag... 

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

zestyrelic
on 9/2/14 1:16 pm

Google "Butter makes your pants fall off", Very interesting/informative video...

Lessoflinda
on 9/2/14 6:55 pm - NY

Thanks for the info.  I also have rh and don't have it all figured out yet.  Had an episode on Saturday. (Ate some "bad" stuff, but I think it was the carbs that did it..) bs was 39...  Have had readings that low before, but this time I had some confusion with it...then, of course, I was wiped out and had to sleep after I got my bs up.

Linda, Endwell, NY RNY 11/5/12

    
H.A.L.A B.
on 9/2/14 10:02 pm

I am a perfect example of " knowing what you need to do and eat to avoid RH but not doing it 100% of the time".

Alond the way (6 years 5 with severe RH) i learned what foods are no-no for me.  Some foods that i thought would be ok, were really not. Sweet potato - i can have some with proteins and fat, but same qty of normal potato with the same type meal - and I would crash.  I had to experiment with foods and initially i had to test my BS every 30 min to know how different foods affected my BS.   I still do stupid things. Just not as often, and i know what i am doing will cause a crash.  And sometimes i can avoid a crash by eating more - grazing - when i start that 30- 40 min after the offending "meal".  But that makes me gain weight very fast. 

 

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

Tri_harder
on 9/2/14 9:56 pm, edited 9/2/14 10:02 pm

Wisconsin is the butter capitol of the world.  I think the cold weather makes our cows "fatten up".  Our farmers will be happy.  I personally have butter in the house all the time, I eat grass fed red meat and reduced fat cheese is a staple.  I also use a lot of fat free ricotta, cream cheese and dry curd cottage cheese and sometimes regular cheese.  The Wisconsin Organic Valley whole fat cheese is to dye for...seriously!  I agree with the healthy fats and no trans fats too.  I wish they were clearer on the diet.  30% of their calories came from fat.  What about the other 70%.  They said they ate fruits and veggies and beans.  Those are complex carbs.  Did they ever eat whole grain starches?  I aim for (limiting myself) to 3 servings of whole grains.  I bought some whole wheat flat bread wraps and they really filled me up for a long time.  It ends up they had 7 gms of fiber in one wrap.  They also referred to the fat free chocolate milk with sugar which is given out in schools is not good.  Were the low fat diets eating a ton of sugar and simple carbs?  As a diabetic I can't eat sugar or my blood sugar goes nuts.  Even refined grains cause problems for me. I am looking for the actual diet or percentages and when I find them I will let you know.  If you find it in the many articles that are on the internet in the past 3 days, let me know.  Interesting article...thanks Hala  

×