Lab Help Please

MacMadame
on 9/2/11 7:29 am - Northern, CA
 "I would still like to see where you are getting this  information with the vitamin D levels - toxic over 250-280?  are you kidding me? "

Yes, I'm totally kidding you. I pulled those numbers out of my butt... because that's my style. 

As I said previously, the 200-250 number (not 250-280) came from the Vitamin D council. It's right here:

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/what-is-vitamin-d/vitamin-d-toxicity/

They also say:

The large range between 25(OH)D’s upper limit [100] and its threshold value implies a degree of safety at serum levels up to 100 ng/mL (250 nmol/L), since concentrations twice this amount have yet to ever be associated with toxicity.

IOW, while 200-250 is listed as the toxic range, no one has ever seen symptoms of toxicity at 200 ng/mL. This is also reported in a Wikipedia article which says:

Based on the non-observation of toxicity at daily intakes of up to 50,000 IU per day, leading to calcidiol levels of more than 600 nmol/L, and the similar effect of supplementation and whole body exposure to one erythemal dose, some researchers argued in 2007 that 250 micrograms/day (10,000 IU) in healthy adults was guaranteed to be safe and can thus be adopted as the tolerable upper limit.[103] Published cases of toxicity involving hypercalcemia in which the vitamin D dose and the 25-hydroxy-vitamin D levels are known all involve an intake of ≥40,000IU (1000 mcg) per day.[100]

I don't usually quote Wikipedia but the studies referenced are reasonable
.

Also, according to WedMD, the NIH lists 200 ng/mL as "potentially toxic". Not 150. And only "potentially".

So there are a few sources, including the mainstream one of WedMD and the NIH who all dispute >150 as being toxic and they also suggest that while 200-250 is considered toxic that there actually isn't a lot of evidence to support that and actual toxic levels are probably higher, much higher.

VitaLady frequentlyl posts that toxic levels are more like 800. I don't know where she got that number, but I figured I'd stay with the Vitamin D council and the NIH for what I post to be conservative.


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loverofcats
on 8/23/11 4:00 am
I don't see vitamin B-1 (thiamine) or Vitamin A.
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Koko10
on 8/23/11 4:09 am - NC
It says Vit B1 (Thiamine) and Vit K1 will follow but I don't see that they took a Vit A test.
    
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vitalady
on 8/23/11 4:56 am - Puyallup, WA
RNY on 10/05/94
B12 is beautiful
vit D is a disaster

Where's the rest?

Michelle
RNY, distal, 10/5/94 

P.S.  My year + long absence has NOTHING to do with my WLS, or my type of WLS. See my profile.

Koko10
on 8/23/11 5:35 am - NC
Here are the others.......Reults...............Reference
Hematocrit........................37.1..................34.0-44.0
MCH...................................31.4...................27.0-34.0
Platelets.............................200...................140-415
Monocytes..........................7.........................4-13
Eox.......................................3.........................0-7
Basos..................................1........................0-3
Lymphs (Absolute)...........2.1.....................0.7-4.5
Monocytes (Absolute).......0.3...................0.1-1.0
Eos (Absolute)..................0.1....................0.0-0.4
Baso (absolute)................0.0....................0.0-0.2
Immature Granulocytes (abs) 0..............0-2
Vit A & E will follow
BUN.....................................11......................6-24
Creatinine, Serum............0.78................0.57-1.00
eGFR in Non African Am..95....................>59
eGFR If African Am...........109...................>59
BUN/Creatinine Ratio.......14.....................9-23
Sodium, Serum................141....................135-145
Carbon Dioxide, Total.......20.....................20-32
Albumin, Serum.................4.5....................3.5-5.5
Globulin, Total....................2.3....................1.5-4.5
A/G Ratio.............................2.0.....................1.1-2.5
Alkaline Phosphatase......80......................25-150
AST (SGOT)........................15.......................0-40
ALT (SGPT)........................25........................0-40
Folate (Folic Acid), Serum >19.9...................>3.0

That's all that I have on this paper right now. I hope this helps. I still feel tired and I don't know why. I'm getting 7.5-9 hrs sleep most nights. I thought this would help me determine what could be the problem. I'm going to your site to order Vit D3 payday.
Thanks for your help.
MacMadame
on 8/23/11 10:53 pm - Northern, CA
One cause of fatigue is low Vitamin D.

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rbb825
on 8/23/11 8:47 pm - Suffern, NY
First off, I would call your PCP and ask about your low Neutrophils and high Lymphs.  They aren't off by that much but it can be a sign of infection and your WBC are borderline low. The more important of the numbers it the absolute neutrophyls.

Your B12 is perfect - I wouldnt' touch it.  There is no danger in having a high number, just pee out excess but cutting your dose in half, will plummet your number which is not good. Low b12 levels puts you at risk for nerve damage. I Would go with high vs low anytime.

Your vitamin D is very low - go ahead and order the Dry D3 - 50,000  units - take it 2 times per week to start and get retested in 2months to see how you are doing then.

You are missing tons of tests - vitamin A, B1, B6, E, K, copper, zinc, magnesium, selenium, PTH, calcium, folate

 

Koko10
on 8/23/11 10:20 pm - NC
I will call and see if she has them because I had them drawn and sent to the Weight Loss Clinic. I can fax them to her. OK, I will keep taking 2 B12 a day. The RN was the person who said cut back to one a day or take 2 every other day. Some of the test had not been completed. I'm not sure when they will be faxed since I did this test at August 1st at Lab Corp (independent lab). I will try to call them to see when the test that say "will follow" may come in. That was the Vit  A & E, B1, & K1. I'm not sure if they ordered copper, zinc, magnesium, selenium, & PTH. Calcium was 9.6 and Folate is 19.9. These things are confusing for a newby.
    
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