calling dr and telling her to forget the whole thing :(

how much protein and i supposed to consume in one day after the WLS, maybe i could get it in another form instead of the shakes ????

Protein...the only "rule" I've seen is one called 30/60/90. To be at a minimum of 30 grams a day by one month, 60 grams a day by 2 months and 90 grams of protein by 3 months.

Depending on your surgery, you can get some to most of your protein from food later on but not at first. The RNY & DS require more supplimenting for most of us than the non-malabsorbtive surgeries.

As to your list in your first post:
fish  (I only eat this once or twice a year)
cottage cheese (ate my way thru 1/2 a container the first month, haven't had any since)
coleslaw (now this I love, it doesn't like me)
nuts (these make me constipated, really bad)
coffee (I have a big one, reg not decaf, every more and that is ALL)
protein shakes (still working on these myself, the EAS from Sam's is the best but only the chocolate and doctored up)
eggs (Now these I love)
yogurt* i can only eat certain kinds (Only kind I eat is Chobani)
jello (Had this the first two weeks only)
most soups *can only eat chicken noodle and the vegetable soup with the little noodles in it
seafood of any kind Need to stick to broth the first two weeks at least but after that, jus****ch your carbs)

Most of what you are worried about is during the first 2-4 weeks. I'm over 6 months out and eat pretty much how I did pre-op, just a whole lot less!

Liz

i try to get in 100 grams of protein per day.

i eat lots of meat, veggies and fruit!  i can't really tolerate pasta any longer but that's okay...i don't need it anyway.  it took a bit to find a protein drink that i liked post op!  the ones i loved pre-op......well....taste buds changed in the o.r. i guess because when i woke up from surgery.....just didn't taste good to me!  now i have a protein shake every morning for breakfast......it's just a trial and error process. 

it's definately not easy....so don't let anyone tell you it's taking the easy way out.  there's nothing easy about this.......BUT......my only regret is that i didn't do this 20 years ago......i am a compulsive eater....i'm a stress eater....i'm a binge eater and was literally eating myself to death!  i had high blood pressure...high cholesterol...obstructive sleep apnea (on CPAP)....pain in all my joints and my big stomach was causing really bad bladder issues.......now....i'm off the blood pressure meds and my bp is now about 106/58 without meds.  my cholesterol is now 180...no cholesterol meds.  i'm off the CPAP!!  no more joint pain....no more bladder issues..and i'm sitting here in a size 4 jeans as i type this.  i feel better than i have in many years.  i yo yo dieted for 30+ years and i knew that if i didn't have this surgery i would die.

do your research and search your heart.  this surgery is a major deal.  and it's something that only you can decide.  don't do it until you are sure that its what you want because there's no turning back once you wake up in recovery.

sending you the very best wishes and hope you get lots and lots of helpful information to use in making your decision! 

 I never touched vegetables until I was in my 20's and on my first real diet.  I found out that I loved them.
I am just over a year out and have no food intolerances.  I can eat what ever I want except sugar, which I dump on (found out accidently).  I choose not to eat refined carbs because I am addicted to them and when I eat them I crave more, not to mention they make me feel lousy.  My 2 biggies that I avoid are sugar (in any form) and wheat.  When I avoid those I find it easy to stick to a healthy eating plan and the weight falls off.  Every time in the past when I have lost weight it was because I eliminated those things from my diet, as well as ate in moderation.  Along those lines, every time I regained weight in the past it was because I decided I could eat those things in moderation.  I couldn't.
I have a lot of experience, including a failed WLS, to show me what works and how to change my eating habits, but it took a lot of falling down to get where I am at.

Hi!

I'm just a month out, and I kept going back and forth on whether or not I should have surgery. I am so glad I did. I'm already feeling lighter, and starting to get more energy. I'm now on a soft diet until 8/24 when I will be on a regular diet. Right now, the NUT says I need to stick to protein first, then vegetables cooked for now. I have not had any problems with any foods yet. I just feel great! Keep doing your research so when you do decide, you will be happy with your decision.
Lynn

Please don't give up because you don't like those foods.  I hate cottage cheese, cole slaw, nuts, coffee, only eat one type of yogurt, only eat pea soup.  As far as fish - I only eat salmon but I do love seafood.  Everyone has different tastes and as long as you can get your protein in and you don't eat foods high in sugar and junk foods, you will be fine.  As far as protein shakes go - you just have to try different homemade ones after surgery.  Our tastes change and what you like or don't like preop, will be totally different post op.  I drank ones I could barely tolerate at the beginning because Ididn't know about the homemade ones and now I love them.  There are tons of recipes out there.  I make hot chocolate with protein powder in it and I make a chocolate milk shake with bananas and protein powder plus other stuff and they are delicious. I can send you the recipes when it isn't so late if you would like.

I think you are freaking out about having surgery and obessing over unimportant things as a result. I say that for two reasons:

(1) It's really, really common to do that. A lot of people obess about dying, but some people obess about other things and the second most obessed about item is food (what you can and can't eat).

(2) What you are obessing about isn't remotely true. In fact, of your list of things that you seem to think WLS people MUST consume, I don't consume about half of them (ew, coffee) and some of them (like nuts) can actually derail weight loss if you aren't careful while others (coleslaw) are problematic for some post-ops (they can't do raw veggies well).

Hence, my suspicion that it's nerves. (Notice I didn't say "just" nerves. Surgery is scary. Changing your anatomy forever is scary too.)

Just know that it's normal to have them (nerves), take a deep breath and relax. Think about all the cool things you'll be able to do when you lose weight and remember there are tons of foods out there and as long as you are willing to watch the carbs and get in your protein, you should do fine.

ETA Oh, I didn't see those other posts where you said you though the soft food phase was how we have to eat for life. I though you'd been reading Roz's Menus &  Miles and were freaking out over all the protein coffee the people who post in there consume. LOL

This is what my program recommends during the weight loss phase:

< 800 calories
< 40 g carbs
< 30 g fats
> 70 g protein

Notice there is nothing in there about WHAT to eat to meet those goals. They give suggestions, but they are just suggestions. There are plenty of foods that you can consume to meet these goals. And, during maintenance you'll up the calories and hence the carbs and fats giving you even more choices.

The only thing I'd say about what you eat is to be open to your tastes changing and to liking stuff you hated before. And vice versa.

 Tanya  my take on the surgery is that  its a lot less invasive and  life  interrupting ( and menu-interrupting )  than everyone told me it would be lol ...

As a matter of fact I PERSONALLY  definitely wish for MORE lol.  

U have to choose the right surgery for Ur eating habits .  If Ure a n unregenerate fast food eater  then U NEED  a DS  because  nothing else is gonna do it for ya .   If you goto the buffet and dip Ur crab legs in butter .. ditto .   

If  you  have a history  of eating very healthily and its a QUANTITY issue ,  ora grazing issue between meals  with sugar largely as the culprit (  plain sugar not  fatty sugary carbs )   then U might  be a good candidate for an RNY .  But thats what I had  and  for me personally it wasnt enough .

I  could eat pretty much everything a  few months  post op in smaller quantities .   I was  GLAD to make the  menu changes .  There  were many new  interestingfoods i DISCOVERED along the way too ... 

most importantly this surgery was a major decision  by me to have  the LIFE I wanted not to bury myself  in a plate of  excessfood  any longer  and  finally get out of my prison of fat  that I had been carrying around with me  for  so many years .   I  was given a once -in -a lifetime change at PAROLE!!!  .   

Honestly  when I put it  that way ...  Im willing to live on protein shakes FOREVER  to stay free  if I have to lol  ... ( but thank God i DONT have to  ) 

Yes its a bit frightening in the  beginning when the eating addiction stops ,   Ure still fat  and  U cant overat to comfort Urself back into  denial .   But the GOOD news is Uve  takena  HUGE MAJOR step in the RIGHT direction !  Then U see the scale  go down ,  exercise becomes POSSIBLE  and  Ur friend ,   U start feeling  more energetic, looking great ...  shopping for smaller clothes ..   Ur life totally changes .

I hope U don't deny Urself this wonderful opportunity  so many people  would do anything   to be in Ur shoes for ...  

thanks ladies for all the input once again , i need to look further into some homemade protein shakes and recipes for them .  i understand this is a whole life changing event and i don't want to go into it with even one regret or one question unanswered  no matter how silly the question may seem, i don't want any what if's or any if i had only known !


i am leaning towards the DS as of now but when i get further into this whole journey it might change once i meet with the NUT and the surgeon which won't be until late september sometime maybe early october. reason being is that i am on the 1200 calorie diet right now and they want to see how i can do with it and the diet restrictions before they do the surgery, just one of the many hurdles i'll have to jump before they do the WLS, a royal pain in the ass but i'm wiling to do it though so i can be healthier and pain free....