Sleep issues & viamins

MacMadame
on 7/7/11 9:29 am - Northern, CA
Trazadone is technically an anti-depressant (though not a very good one, apparently) so if you are one of those, it's probably a bad idea to be on this one.

Lots of doctors prescribe it for sleep though. It works better to make you sleepy than to make you less depressed and the dosage for sleep is a lot lower than the dosage for treating depression.

The melatonin helps me a lot when I can't fall asleep. But it doesn't keep me asleep. The Trazadone does that.

There are other drugs for sleep though if this particular combination doesn't work out for you.

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southernlady5464
on 7/7/11 9:39 am
Thanks for that...I'll keep an open mind as far as what could work.

The amytriptyline is also an anti-depressant (also not a very good one and a very old medicine in the grand scheme of things)....maybe adding melatonin will make the amytriptyline work better.

Liz.

Duodenal Switch (Lap) 01-24-11 | Surgeon: Stephen Boyce | High weight: 250 in 2002 | Surgery weight: 203 | Lowest weight: 121 | Current weight: 135 | Goal weight: 135






   

aspan
on 7/7/11 8:40 am
You have RLS too don't you Liz? I know that can play a huge issue in not getting to sleep..I sleep just fine until my legs are hurting me then im lucky to get a couple of hours of sleep..which causes a cycle of fatigue during the day which leads to a nap which leads me not being tired at night..I hope you are able to figure it out and start sleeping better!!
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southernlady5464
on 7/7/11 9:04 am
Yes, I have RLS but 95% of the time, the Mirapex works just fine. As long as I take it enough ahead before I head to bed, I am fine. The times I am not, I'm late taking it or forget.

Liz

Duodenal Switch (Lap) 01-24-11 | Surgeon: Stephen Boyce | High weight: 250 in 2002 | Surgery weight: 203 | Lowest weight: 121 | Current weight: 135 | Goal weight: 135






   

italianspice
on 7/7/11 9:47 pm - Eastlake, OH
Liz,
Just a thought. I know you spent some time with Michelle, vitalady, does she have any recommendations or thoughts on the subject?

Going out today to get some melatonin, how mg should I start off with? I was thinking 4mg.

~Maria

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southernlady5464
on 7/7/11 10:50 pm
To be honest, Maria, the subject did not come up at all. But they had a sample in the "goodie bag" they gave us. In my rummaging around the bag, I happened on it and looked to see what it was for, discovered it.

As to how much, it states on the Medline Plus site:

BY MOUTH:
  • For insomnia:
    • 0.3-5 mg at bedtime is a typical dose.
    • In children with insomnia due to delayed sleep onset, melatonin 5 mg at 6:00 PM daily.
    • In children with developmental disorders (including cerebral palsy, autism, and mental retardation), melatonin 5 mg at 8:00 PM daily. Both immediate-release and sustained-release preparations have been used.
  • For jet lag: 0.5-5 mg at bedtime is commonly taken on the arrival day at the destination, continuing for 2-5 days. Low doses of 0.5-3 mg are often used to avoid the hypnotic properties of the higher 4-5 mg doses.
  • For tardive dyskinesia (TD): 10 mg daily of a controlled-release formulation.
  • As treatment for solid tumors in combination with conventional therapy: 10-50 mg along with radiotherapy, chemotherapy, or interleukin 2 (IL-2). Melatonin is typically started 7 days before the start of chemotherapy and continued throughout full treatment course.
  • For treatment of prostate cancer that has spread to other sites (metastatic cancer) and is resistant to triptorelin used alone: 20 mg taken daily has been used in combination with 3.75 mg of triptorelin injected into the muscle every 28 days.
  • For prevention and treatment of lowered clot-forming cells (thrombocytopenia) associated with cancer chemotherapy: 20 mg each evening.
  • For benzodiazepine withdrawal in elderly people with insomnia: 2 mg of controlled-release melatonin taken at bedtime for 6 weeks (the benzodiazepine dosage is reduced 50% during the second week, 75% during weeks 3 and 4, and stopped during weeks 5 and 6) and continued up to 6 months.
  • For prevention of cluster headache: an evening dose of 10 mg.
  • For reducing anxiety before surgery in adults: 0.05 mg/kg under the tongue.
  • For reducing nicotine withdrawal symptoms: 0.3 mg orally 3.5 hours after stopping smoking.

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seaview
on 7/8/11 12:15 am
It comes in 3mg tabs...I took a half a tab a night to start out with and see how I felt....it worked fine..then I worked my way up to the whole tab....it just depends on your constitution and how you metabolize....so try it...SEAVIEW 
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