Redistribution?
When does redistribution start?
I had a really upsetting weight and measure this morning at the gym and I was wondering if I'm making too big a deal out of it.
I gained inches in my biceps and thighs, since I've been doing Zumba 2x a week in addition to the Curve's circuit 4-5 days a week (the zumba i do works with the curves circuit). I also gained in my bust and butt... seriously?
I lost in my tummy, waist stayed the same.
I've gained 4 pounds.
I don't get it.
My body fat went up 0.1%
Is this redistribution or is something wrong with my diet/exercise?
I've been maintaining near goal for the past month and a half before this happened.
I don't know when my TOM is or if it could be to blame. (I have an IUD and no real periods but last time I had one was in the beginning of the month).
I don't want to make excuses, I just want to understand and fix what I can.
Help?
I had a really upsetting weight and measure this morning at the gym and I was wondering if I'm making too big a deal out of it.
I gained inches in my biceps and thighs, since I've been doing Zumba 2x a week in addition to the Curve's circuit 4-5 days a week (the zumba i do works with the curves circuit). I also gained in my bust and butt... seriously?
I lost in my tummy, waist stayed the same.
I've gained 4 pounds.
I don't get it.
My body fat went up 0.1%
Is this redistribution or is something wrong with my diet/exercise?
I've been maintaining near goal for the past month and a half before this happened.
I don't know when my TOM is or if it could be to blame. (I have an IUD and no real periods but last time I had one was in the beginning of the month).
I don't want to make excuses, I just want to understand and fix what I can.
Help?
7/18/10: 211lbs, 10/16/10: 174 lbs, 1/21/11: 146 lbs, 4/20/11: 131 lbs. Insulin FREE since 7/2010, "normal" BMI since 12/2010. I'm 31, 5'5", happily married, with a fabulous 3 year old boy, and hope to add to our family in the near future 
The intial 1 month at the same weight is definitely not long enough for redistribution, I am surely not thinking.
4 pounds - this is *easily* explained by the fact that if you are breaking down muscle, then those tiny tears in your muscle get filled up with water and that is why folks freak when they start working out and people rush in to share that they "must be gaining muscle"
Its a water fluctuation thing.
Your body fat - we all have way different ideas of what is a good or not a good way to measure, but I dont have any faith in those things they use at Curves (and/or most gyms!!) and can tell you that one day I did an experiement and stopped by at 3 separate times the same day and got TOTALLY different readings.
Hold steady, keep on doing what you are doing, stay hydratred so your body doesnt think it needs to keep every ounce of h2o it has in it.
And no freaking out, cortisol causes you to store fat in your abdominal area! :}
Keep it up girlie!!
4 pounds - this is *easily* explained by the fact that if you are breaking down muscle, then those tiny tears in your muscle get filled up with water and that is why folks freak when they start working out and people rush in to share that they "must be gaining muscle"
Its a water fluctuation thing.
Your body fat - we all have way different ideas of what is a good or not a good way to measure, but I dont have any faith in those things they use at Curves (and/or most gyms!!) and can tell you that one day I did an experiement and stopped by at 3 separate times the same day and got TOTALLY different readings.
Hold steady, keep on doing what you are doing, stay hydratred so your body doesnt think it needs to keep every ounce of h2o it has in it.
And no freaking out, cortisol causes you to store fat in your abdominal area! :}
Keep it up girlie!!
And hormones can have a huge play in it, and I have to remind friends who dont have a period anymore, just because you dont have a period, does *not* mean you dont have hormone fluxes!!
:}
I, just for information's sake, chart my mood cycles like that, to see if I can see a pattern, to know when my beloved's smacking (because he loloooovesss my delicious foods!) is going to make me want to spoon his eyes out and kick sand in his eyeholes, to see when I am going to feel like an empty pit and so to not be surprised and to treat myself with loving kindness! :}
You are welcome girlie! I am excited for you! Its AMAZING how quickly and differently the changes come in our bodies when we arent covered up in our layer of insulation! :}
**also edit to add this..
Tiny tweaks versus major overhauls on the way to optimum health seem to always work best for me. Its like driving and then maybe your wheels slip off the side of the road onto the soft shoulder, if you, in a knee jerk reaction, jerk the wheel way to the left, you now run the risk of running off the road in the opposite direction!!
And of course, this isnt me talking about the beginning of our journeys where the difference between our nutrition is day and night pre and post surgery, I am talking after and when we get to the size/place where we want to be and are now adding exercise and stuff in.
Be sweet to you! You are doing GREAT!!
:}
I, just for information's sake, chart my mood cycles like that, to see if I can see a pattern, to know when my beloved's smacking (because he loloooovesss my delicious foods!) is going to make me want to spoon his eyes out and kick sand in his eyeholes, to see when I am going to feel like an empty pit and so to not be surprised and to treat myself with loving kindness! :}
You are welcome girlie! I am excited for you! Its AMAZING how quickly and differently the changes come in our bodies when we arent covered up in our layer of insulation! :}
**also edit to add this..
Tiny tweaks versus major overhauls on the way to optimum health seem to always work best for me. Its like driving and then maybe your wheels slip off the side of the road onto the soft shoulder, if you, in a knee jerk reaction, jerk the wheel way to the left, you now run the risk of running off the road in the opposite direction!!
And of course, this isnt me talking about the beginning of our journeys where the difference between our nutrition is day and night pre and post surgery, I am talking after and when we get to the size/place where we want to be and are now adding exercise and stuff in.
Be sweet to you! You are doing GREAT!!
Oh believe me, I know! Sometimes I wish I did have a period cuz then I'd at least know to expect when the mood swings are coming, if it's diet or water, and at least with a period that's kind of a catharsis in itself. Maybe that's just me.
Another thing is I've noticed (at least noticed yesterday and Monday) I've been drinking A LOT more (water) consuming more at once and drinking all day. I think I averaged about 15 cups each of the last two days... could there be something to that? And why would I be doing it? I should probably check my blood sugar...
I think that not only not having as much insulation but having a new realtionship with the scale. Whereas before I wouldn't get on it, if I didn't see the umbers they weren't real, now I want to see the numbers, they usually keep me in line if not motivate me.
I'm having a lot of trouble finding the right balance for me. I don't know what my calories level ought to be at 10 1/2 months out. I have a sedentary day job, but I work out every day. I started my post op life very low carb and paid for it with chronic constipation screwing up my liver levels. So added back in some carbs with high concentrations of fiber. Then I found my protein is above 130 every day... isn't that a little too high? I don't want to damage my kidneys... My NUT seems to advise things against what RNY patients actually do so color me a mess of confused nerves. I put in my stuff in a calculator to see what i need to be taking in calorie wise and it's up to like 1900 calories, which cannot be right. I average 900-1200 daily, even with unscheduled snacking. I really need to tamp down ont hat but i wonder if i'm snacking because my body needs more calories or if i'm just bein self-induldgent?
Been exercising since 2 1/2 months post op, so that hasn't really changed, just added 2 zumba classes because they teach them at the time I usually go to the gym.
See my frustration?
Any advice is welcome
Thanks for listening and for talking me back from the edge
Another thing is I've noticed (at least noticed yesterday and Monday) I've been drinking A LOT more (water) consuming more at once and drinking all day. I think I averaged about 15 cups each of the last two days... could there be something to that? And why would I be doing it? I should probably check my blood sugar...
I think that not only not having as much insulation but having a new realtionship with the scale. Whereas before I wouldn't get on it, if I didn't see the umbers they weren't real, now I want to see the numbers, they usually keep me in line if not motivate me.
I'm having a lot of trouble finding the right balance for me. I don't know what my calories level ought to be at 10 1/2 months out. I have a sedentary day job, but I work out every day. I started my post op life very low carb and paid for it with chronic constipation screwing up my liver levels. So added back in some carbs with high concentrations of fiber. Then I found my protein is above 130 every day... isn't that a little too high? I don't want to damage my kidneys... My NUT seems to advise things against what RNY patients actually do so color me a mess of confused nerves. I put in my stuff in a calculator to see what i need to be taking in calorie wise and it's up to like 1900 calories, which cannot be right. I average 900-1200 daily, even with unscheduled snacking. I really need to tamp down ont hat but i wonder if i'm snacking because my body needs more calories or if i'm just bein self-induldgent?
Been exercising since 2 1/2 months post op, so that hasn't really changed, just added 2 zumba classes because they teach them at the time I usually go to the gym.
See my frustration?
Any advice is welcome
Thanks for listening and for talking me back from the edge
When did you add zumba? Recentlly? or the 2-1/2 months ago?
I would just keep on keeping on, and if you are thirstier than usual and have diabetic issues, keep on those babies! But you know that.
I do see your frustration - and here is just *me* about calories. I have an EXTREMELY sedentary job, I transcribe for a living. I SIT HERE until I have enough lines in for the day, or until we arent running out of turn around time. My work hours can be from 8 to 15 hours in the day, there is no jumping up to do files, etc., time away from here is MORE time I ultimately have to spend here, so I *get* the sedentary job thing.
I cant intuatively eat. I use a program called dietpower.com I put in my foods and my exercise, and it tells me *based on what it knows about ME, my weights that I have put in and my cals in and my exercise out, not Josephine Random Blough* the cals I need to sustain me where I am, and then when I add exercise, it gives me cals to eat, to maintain. I like that it takes all the information I gave it about ME, not just spits out numbers based on elelventy jillion normies who never had metabolic issues.
So, that's just how *I* have to do it, for *me,* if somebody has been stealing money from me for years - I can forgive them, but they wont ever go without checks and balances, not ever again.
And that's how it is with the chick in my head (trixybich is her name :}) I was led around by her whispers and had food amnesia and justified way too much crap, and being at goal for 1 year, 2 years, 5 years doesnt keep me from having the same hangups, sensitivities, triggers, or brand new chicks in my head that only whisper *really* helpful and good things to me :}
I dig that some folks can do the intutive eating thing and I am proud on them! I am just not going to even pretend to joke myself about it, not even a little bit.
And for me, its not really a big deal! I mean, its not good, or bad, its just how I am! And for me - this works!
And too, you have tricky malabsorption math stuff! Oy! I cant even imagine ever changing needs depending on malabsorption math!
I am always glad to listen, and am waaay too familiar with the ledge. :} It takes a while to learn the helpful conversations to have with yourself and not just have knee jerk freakouts.
You could ask me how I know, but I suspect you already know.
And too, maybe Mac will come and say a wise thing that will click and shift perception, or someone else who understands your tricky malabsorption math!!
I love the diversity!
Oh, and a few more words about the scale - it just cant show you composition, which is more important (to me) than weight.
I get dunked in a tank for hydrostatic weighing every 6 months. From October to April, I gained 4 lbs on that guy's scale (which I knew I would be heavier, cuz my spring party was the saturday before that Tuesday and I ATE CRAP BABY!!), but the day before my crap eating party, I was the same "scale weight" that I had been in October -
So, for his measurements,
Plus 4 pounds dry weight (on the scale)
Composition - I gained 8 pounds of MUSCLE, and LOST 3 pounds of FAT.
So, you can see, if I were only a scale person (and even if I had weight 4 more pounds on *my* scale) you can see that the 4 pounds of DRY WEIGHT equalled ASS KICKING changes! Huge metabolic PLUS changes!!
But *my* scale cant tell me that, cuz I just have a number scale, not a body fat scale (I think Mac does have a body fat scale).
so anyway, that about the scale. I use it as something that helps, but I cant let how I *feel* about me b based on it, because I am purposely making changes to my body that are going to look different *on me* than if those weight changes were accidental, KWIM?
So there's my mini docudrama about that! :}
I would just keep on keeping on, and if you are thirstier than usual and have diabetic issues, keep on those babies! But you know that.
I do see your frustration - and here is just *me* about calories. I have an EXTREMELY sedentary job, I transcribe for a living. I SIT HERE until I have enough lines in for the day, or until we arent running out of turn around time. My work hours can be from 8 to 15 hours in the day, there is no jumping up to do files, etc., time away from here is MORE time I ultimately have to spend here, so I *get* the sedentary job thing.
I cant intuatively eat. I use a program called dietpower.com I put in my foods and my exercise, and it tells me *based on what it knows about ME, my weights that I have put in and my cals in and my exercise out, not Josephine Random Blough* the cals I need to sustain me where I am, and then when I add exercise, it gives me cals to eat, to maintain. I like that it takes all the information I gave it about ME, not just spits out numbers based on elelventy jillion normies who never had metabolic issues.
So, that's just how *I* have to do it, for *me,* if somebody has been stealing money from me for years - I can forgive them, but they wont ever go without checks and balances, not ever again.
And that's how it is with the chick in my head (trixybich is her name :}) I was led around by her whispers and had food amnesia and justified way too much crap, and being at goal for 1 year, 2 years, 5 years doesnt keep me from having the same hangups, sensitivities, triggers, or brand new chicks in my head that only whisper *really* helpful and good things to me :}
I dig that some folks can do the intutive eating thing and I am proud on them! I am just not going to even pretend to joke myself about it, not even a little bit.
And for me, its not really a big deal! I mean, its not good, or bad, its just how I am! And for me - this works!
And too, you have tricky malabsorption math stuff! Oy! I cant even imagine ever changing needs depending on malabsorption math!
I am always glad to listen, and am waaay too familiar with the ledge. :} It takes a while to learn the helpful conversations to have with yourself and not just have knee jerk freakouts.
You could ask me how I know, but I suspect you already know.
And too, maybe Mac will come and say a wise thing that will click and shift perception, or someone else who understands your tricky malabsorption math!!
I love the diversity!
Oh, and a few more words about the scale - it just cant show you composition, which is more important (to me) than weight.
I get dunked in a tank for hydrostatic weighing every 6 months. From October to April, I gained 4 lbs on that guy's scale (which I knew I would be heavier, cuz my spring party was the saturday before that Tuesday and I ATE CRAP BABY!!), but the day before my crap eating party, I was the same "scale weight" that I had been in October -
So, for his measurements,
Plus 4 pounds dry weight (on the scale)
Composition - I gained 8 pounds of MUSCLE, and LOST 3 pounds of FAT.
So, you can see, if I were only a scale person (and even if I had weight 4 more pounds on *my* scale) you can see that the 4 pounds of DRY WEIGHT equalled ASS KICKING changes! Huge metabolic PLUS changes!!
But *my* scale cant tell me that, cuz I just have a number scale, not a body fat scale (I think Mac does have a body fat scale).
so anyway, that about the scale. I use it as something that helps, but I cant let how I *feel* about me b based on it, because I am purposely making changes to my body that are going to look different *on me* than if those weight changes were accidental, KWIM?
So there's my mini docudrama about that! :}
I just so happened to write it down (they have punch cards for the classes so i am keeping track of the classes I go to since someone bought me a 30 class card and I want to make sure I'm tracking my actual participation days) I started May 3rd. So less than a month ago.
Allegedly I'm in remission, my A1C is 0.1 points away from not diabetic, or it was 2 months ago, so I think I've been a little laxer than usual in checking. I'm not as paranoid, maybe I should be, maybe paranoia is healthy.
This is all so new to me, I have not weighed in the 130's since half my life ago, same with not having to deal with diabetes. The head games are different, instead of my mom telling me I'm fat when I'm really not, I've got the tape measure and that little voice asking if that snack was really necessary.
I'm a purchasing agent, I also sit at my desk most of the day. I think part of the reason I drink so much is so that I have an excuse to A- get up and go refill my cup, B- get up and go to the bathroom. Frequently.
Does dietpower charge? does it account for WLS?
I play other head games with myself. I create my menu with scheduled snacks, and then after I'm happy with the food, I log it, and I'm usually right in where I think i ought to be but if my frame of reference is off, well, I'm screwed, aren't i?
it sounds like you've really got it together for yoruself and know what works for you, i'm very proud and excited for you. I just hope i can get there some day soon. darn this non cookie cutter world some times
Allegedly I'm in remission, my A1C is 0.1 points away from not diabetic, or it was 2 months ago, so I think I've been a little laxer than usual in checking. I'm not as paranoid, maybe I should be, maybe paranoia is healthy.
This is all so new to me, I have not weighed in the 130's since half my life ago, same with not having to deal with diabetes. The head games are different, instead of my mom telling me I'm fat when I'm really not, I've got the tape measure and that little voice asking if that snack was really necessary.
I'm a purchasing agent, I also sit at my desk most of the day. I think part of the reason I drink so much is so that I have an excuse to A- get up and go refill my cup, B- get up and go to the bathroom. Frequently.
Does dietpower charge? does it account for WLS?
I play other head games with myself. I create my menu with scheduled snacks, and then after I'm happy with the food, I log it, and I'm usually right in where I think i ought to be but if my frame of reference is off, well, I'm screwed, aren't i?
it sounds like you've really got it together for yoruself and know what works for you, i'm very proud and excited for you. I just hope i can get there some day soon. darn this non cookie cutter world some times
7/18/10: 211lbs, 10/16/10: 174 lbs, 1/21/11: 146 lbs, 4/20/11: 131 lbs. Insulin FREE since 7/2010, "normal" BMI since 12/2010. I'm 31, 5'5", happily married, with a fabulous 3 year old boy, and hope to add to our family in the near future
Paranoia is what it is, but definitely watchful awareness wins!!
Dietpower *does* charge. Its 30 bucks for lifetime. I have had multiple computers and every time, I send them a note, Hey! My other computer died, will you send me the link again? And they do. I have also called them or emailed them and when I email a FRIENDLY person gets back with me to answer my question, or a FRIENDLY person answers the phone. I think someone else said it also goes by die****ch and you can get it from amazing? I was showing screenshots to explain it to someone and that person said they were glad someone else used die****ch and that's where they got it. You can peek in my pictures if you care to see those screen shots.
It doesnt account for WLS per se, but it does see "hmmm.. yesterday she weighed ate X thing, and did X activity, and today she weighs X thing" So, it does the math - it doesnt need to know that I have a sleeve, or you have had a RNY or if you had DS, it is strictly numbers based on information YOU put in there, so as long as you stay honest about information you put in there (I know that seems like a stupid point to make, but well.. you know) then it does the math for you, and it will change its numbers depending on how much you do or do not malabsorb because it notes changes in the trends of your weight and your food.
You will get there girlie! Right now you have switched from one mode to another, and finding a way to stay on top of *everything* you need to stay on top of AND make it something that you can maintain - that has been the downfall for a lot of folks, is what I see. They have great ideas about how they *are* going to do maintenance, or even loss for that matter, but theory and reality sometimes dont even live in the same neighborhood.
or state.
or country!
Dietpower *does* charge. Its 30 bucks for lifetime. I have had multiple computers and every time, I send them a note, Hey! My other computer died, will you send me the link again? And they do. I have also called them or emailed them and when I email a FRIENDLY person gets back with me to answer my question, or a FRIENDLY person answers the phone. I think someone else said it also goes by die****ch and you can get it from amazing? I was showing screenshots to explain it to someone and that person said they were glad someone else used die****ch and that's where they got it. You can peek in my pictures if you care to see those screen shots.
It doesnt account for WLS per se, but it does see "hmmm.. yesterday she weighed ate X thing, and did X activity, and today she weighs X thing" So, it does the math - it doesnt need to know that I have a sleeve, or you have had a RNY or if you had DS, it is strictly numbers based on information YOU put in there, so as long as you stay honest about information you put in there (I know that seems like a stupid point to make, but well.. you know) then it does the math for you, and it will change its numbers depending on how much you do or do not malabsorb because it notes changes in the trends of your weight and your food.
You will get there girlie! Right now you have switched from one mode to another, and finding a way to stay on top of *everything* you need to stay on top of AND make it something that you can maintain - that has been the downfall for a lot of folks, is what I see. They have great ideas about how they *are* going to do maintenance, or even loss for that matter, but theory and reality sometimes dont even live in the same neighborhood.
or state.
or country!
(deactivated member)
on 5/25/11 1:33 am
on 5/25/11 1:33 am
Gosh I enjoyed this rockin ' conversation !
Here's my two cents . Im pretty sedentary at work too btw . an ex diabetic like Urself . BIG metabolic issues my whole life and yep... an apple shape .
regular exercise makes me weigh a LITLE more in the short run , then drop size almost immediately while weighing the same as before .
When I stop intensively regularly exercising my weight setpoint is a little LOWER .
I personally question all these 600 calorie 900 calorie a day peoples REAL calorie counts . I eat fat free high fiber food and I get WAY more calories in than that EVERY day and im a metabolically challenged ex diabetic size zero ... so what gives ?
this is my lunch today : a cup of anadama pudding ( fat free pumpkin ricotta oven baked cheesecake pudding made with molasses corn anadama spices and fat free ricotta ) fat free whipped cream
4 ounces skinless chicken breast in fat free masaman curry with about 3 cups of garden produce ( radish tops , baby broccoli florets , shallots , green garlic etc stir fried in ) fat free milk , coconut extract and butter buds make the creamy sauce ...
now granted i dont usually eat a big dinner unless its a work related occasion ... but shoot , this is a TON of food... ( i usually haveto eat it in two sittings at lunch and midafternoon)
and if I happen to get " Chinese food syndrome " at 5 oclock and have the veggies go right through me trust me Ill eat dense protein without even BLINKING ....or considering the calories. and if Im hungry Ill snack on fat free fibrous carbs ( like air popped popcorn) at night ..but no protein cuz it keeps me up .
My tricks ? I dont think fatty calories equal no fat ones . I think fibrous items actually push the other calories through and make u thinner not fatter ..so i count them as free items . Salads ( with fatfree dressing of course ) ,most veggies .( not squash , potatoes ,peas , beans ..)
I also think dieting is a huge MISTAKE . you slow your metabolism and basically permanently make it crash whereas if you never diet and you work out you develop what is called brown fat .. which BURNS calories after you eat them by raising your body temperature .
Fat people are noticeably lacking in brown fat .( and have remarkably low core body temperatures ) I have noticed since my WLS that my body is "burning " ...after meals more and more .. and i am literally pink cheeked and able to sweat !
I was NEVER able to do that before - thats s why my sport was ice hockey !
I also make it a point to eat very very slowly and chew my bite a dozen or better yet two dozen times before swallowing . That takes DISCIPLINE ! I also drink a glass of water before i eat ... and nothing with or after my meals for about a half hour to an hour . I try to stay away from sweets .
For me I could only lose so far eating restaurant food regularly . I still have issues with the craft table ( the catering at my work ) but they ALWAYS have plenty of fat free options. But my husband and father in law are big restaurant eaters . I put a stop to that . I cook every meal now . That helped me lose SEVERAL sizes .
Bottom line is a restaurant leaves the FAT on the meat to make it larger on the plate ... they go through VATS of vegetable oil for a REASON and even if you ask them to saute ur entre with broth not oil chances are theyll throw a tablespoon or two of butter in there - dont imagine they wont . And Ur entre itself is enough to feed a family of four .
Do you BELIEVE the calorie counts in a place like Applebees ? sure .. I guess its a little better than Wendys ..but REALLY ?!! nah .. Id DOUBLE everything myself .. i mean if you took apart the number of shrimp ALONE never mind the sugary oily sauce ON THEM .... add up the calories ..NO WAY THATS 250 !!! SORRY !!! in Ur DREAMS maybe ..counting porkchops
personally Id rather my pants fit ...
Here's my two cents . Im pretty sedentary at work too btw . an ex diabetic like Urself . BIG metabolic issues my whole life and yep... an apple shape .
regular exercise makes me weigh a LITLE more in the short run , then drop size almost immediately while weighing the same as before .
When I stop intensively regularly exercising my weight setpoint is a little LOWER .
I personally question all these 600 calorie 900 calorie a day peoples REAL calorie counts . I eat fat free high fiber food and I get WAY more calories in than that EVERY day and im a metabolically challenged ex diabetic size zero ... so what gives ?
this is my lunch today : a cup of anadama pudding ( fat free pumpkin ricotta oven baked cheesecake pudding made with molasses corn anadama spices and fat free ricotta ) fat free whipped cream
4 ounces skinless chicken breast in fat free masaman curry with about 3 cups of garden produce ( radish tops , baby broccoli florets , shallots , green garlic etc stir fried in ) fat free milk , coconut extract and butter buds make the creamy sauce ...
now granted i dont usually eat a big dinner unless its a work related occasion ... but shoot , this is a TON of food... ( i usually haveto eat it in two sittings at lunch and midafternoon)
and if I happen to get " Chinese food syndrome " at 5 oclock and have the veggies go right through me trust me Ill eat dense protein without even BLINKING ....or considering the calories. and if Im hungry Ill snack on fat free fibrous carbs ( like air popped popcorn) at night ..but no protein cuz it keeps me up .
My tricks ? I dont think fatty calories equal no fat ones . I think fibrous items actually push the other calories through and make u thinner not fatter ..so i count them as free items . Salads ( with fatfree dressing of course ) ,most veggies .( not squash , potatoes ,peas , beans ..)
I also think dieting is a huge MISTAKE . you slow your metabolism and basically permanently make it crash whereas if you never diet and you work out you develop what is called brown fat .. which BURNS calories after you eat them by raising your body temperature .
Fat people are noticeably lacking in brown fat .( and have remarkably low core body temperatures ) I have noticed since my WLS that my body is "burning " ...after meals more and more .. and i am literally pink cheeked and able to sweat !
I was NEVER able to do that before - thats s why my sport was ice hockey !
I also make it a point to eat very very slowly and chew my bite a dozen or better yet two dozen times before swallowing . That takes DISCIPLINE ! I also drink a glass of water before i eat ... and nothing with or after my meals for about a half hour to an hour . I try to stay away from sweets .
For me I could only lose so far eating restaurant food regularly . I still have issues with the craft table ( the catering at my work ) but they ALWAYS have plenty of fat free options. But my husband and father in law are big restaurant eaters . I put a stop to that . I cook every meal now . That helped me lose SEVERAL sizes .
Bottom line is a restaurant leaves the FAT on the meat to make it larger on the plate ... they go through VATS of vegetable oil for a REASON and even if you ask them to saute ur entre with broth not oil chances are theyll throw a tablespoon or two of butter in there - dont imagine they wont . And Ur entre itself is enough to feed a family of four .
Do you BELIEVE the calorie counts in a place like Applebees ? sure .. I guess its a little better than Wendys ..but REALLY ?!! nah .. Id DOUBLE everything myself .. i mean if you took apart the number of shrimp ALONE never mind the sugary oily sauce ON THEM .... add up the calories ..NO WAY THATS 250 !!! SORRY !!! in Ur DREAMS maybe ..counting porkchops
personally Id rather my pants fit ...
(deactivated member)
on 5/25/11 1:51 am, edited 5/25/11 2:04 am
on 5/25/11 1:51 am, edited 5/25/11 2:04 am
For me redistribution really started when i got honest with myself and others about what I was eating when i went back regularly to OA .
Somehow a few months after my surgery i found myself very often in a buffet...
and my weight loss of course slowed to a nothing as a result .
I was pretty much the same weight I am now actually ..but it was distributed very differently ..and i was struggling both with craving and wanting to eat MORE ( and the fear of regain of course
- while my hair was STILL FALLING OUT !! OMG !! 
)
I was RUNNING every day to stay in place
had a persistent muffin top I HATED lol
and generally felt out of control ...
for me .. it was excess food addiction . I had to deal with emotional issues I simply hadn't dealt with that I was masking by eating excess food and getting a drug-like serotonin release.
I wasn't eating because I was HUNGRY - I was eating away feelings of loneliness, frustration , boredom...
no matter how low calorie i ate I would want to KEEP eating until I got that release and relaxation.
. OA helped me to see that getting THROUGH the withdrawal stage was what I really WANTED ... and it wasnt that hard after WLS ( unlike before ) .
Once I "suffered " through it a few times I realized i actually LIKED living this way lol...that the buffets and binges (and a life centered around accomodating and excusing the above ) really WERE over for me ( as Id really decided BEFORE I went for surgery )
I WANTED a new life .
OA ( as well as OH ) really helped give me the support ( and education ) to help me realize it .
Somehow a few months after my surgery i found myself very often in a buffet...
and my weight loss of course slowed to a nothing as a result .
I was pretty much the same weight I am now actually ..but it was distributed very differently ..and i was struggling both with craving and wanting to eat MORE ( and the fear of regain of course
- while my hair was STILL FALLING OUT !! OMG !! ) I was RUNNING every day to stay in place
had a persistent muffin top I HATED lol
and generally felt out of control ...
for me .. it was excess food addiction . I had to deal with emotional issues I simply hadn't dealt with that I was masking by eating excess food and getting a drug-like serotonin release.
I wasn't eating because I was HUNGRY - I was eating away feelings of loneliness, frustration , boredom...
no matter how low calorie i ate I would want to KEEP eating until I got that release and relaxation.
. OA helped me to see that getting THROUGH the withdrawal stage was what I really WANTED ... and it wasnt that hard after WLS ( unlike before ) .
Once I "suffered " through it a few times I realized i actually LIKED living this way lol...that the buffets and binges (and a life centered around accomodating and excusing the above ) really WERE over for me ( as Id really decided BEFORE I went for surgery )
I WANTED a new life .
OA ( as well as OH ) really helped give me the support ( and education ) to help me realize it .
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