carbs and maintenance

 Ok so I've always heard about the bounce back...but I thought it was from overeating...I did not realize it was as soon as you started eating normal amounts of carbs....I have started eating a bit of fruit...some wasa crackers....yesterday I had refried beans...(non fat)...and all week I've been sort of increasing the carbs...good carbs though and not enough calories to make me gain weight...but there it is on the scale...3 pounds....WAZ UP WITH THAT?   is it  water retention....is it my period that's late...I mean 3 weeks.. but I'm 50 and perimenopausal...so anyhow I don't want to freak out...everything fits the same...I have NOT been drinking nearly enough water...but I don 't want to freak out ....is this the bounce back? does this happen when you start eating carbs even if your calories are low? do carbs make you retain water? please advise...SEAVIEW

 Yes carbs  do make  me retain water  in that sense  ... if I want to be REALLY cut up I  have to cut  them out ... but then I  feel hungry and  like  I want to eat a bagel all the time lol ....

Personally  I am not into doing battle with my body every day .  The outside world is battlefield enough !  I find  I CAN ( thank God ) eat bread with jam  , and fat free carbs  in moderation ,  and veggies , and fat free dairy ....as long as its fat free and high fiber .     OR I can eat  low fat  and high protein  MEATS  .... and so forth  again with veggies .....and fiber .... but not all together ... they have to be several hours apart .  

Susan Somers  wrote several books describing this as the French diet  or something ...  it makes sense  .   Theres  a lot I don't agree with that she wrote but  I have TRIED  this extensively and it WORKS very well.  

So try it this way  - carbs  with fat free  meals only  ... and  separated from  fats  by at least two hours  ......  

see if it helps  U .  I would also include a fig with that  meal ! 

good  luck  Sweetie 







 

 thanks mini
yeah I am trying to be accepting and  learn to live with this new bod...maintenance is a whole new world and I know I don't want to get much leaner because I will look too haggard....never mind being unable to do the work outs I want....so yes the goal is ultimately being able to live with the bod and
the food and make peace...thanks for your good words....i grew up in France...eating there is wonderful but I would need the ciggies....LOL...gave that up years ago...kidding aside that is a great way to eat...SEAVIEW

Quick Hijack,
Speaking if figs we have a gorgeous fig tree in our yard that produces beautifully. However I always seem to lose most of it to birds or squirrels if I leave them to long on the tree. If I harvest them to keep them away from the rodents they go bad so quickly I might as well have left them on the tree. Any suggestions for preservation other than jam or preserves?

I was also thinking that U mentioned beans  .... I have NEVER  not eaten beans  and not been  several lbs heavier the next day  due to  the salt  content  /fiber content .  

Then the NEXT day  I get  thoroughly cleaned out  and  am LIGHTER  ...so  maybe thats what's going on with U .

Beans give me a LOT of energy though and I'd never give them up .....

Seaview, come to the VSGM (vertical sleeve gast. maintenance) group and ask your question.  There's a lot of good information over there.

I've read (and you'll need to fact check this because I'm fuzzy) that it takes something like 4 pounds of water weight stored when we're eating more carbs.  That's why people experience a rapid weight loss the first week when going low carb.   I bet if you cut the carbs for a few days the pounds would be gone.  It doesn't sound like bounce back weight but your body adjusting to storing water for carbs.  You may find that you want to shed a few more pounds so that you can eat those carbs and still be at your personal goal.

I know that I didn't lose between thanksgiving and new years and had to really cut carbs to start losing again.  I eat a little veggies and a few berries along with my protein now and it's working for me.

 you ladies are both right on...I needed to hear this...yes the refried beans are SALTY...so is the salad that I ate from the mexican place...its' probably the salt and the carbs...and I am going to do an experiment today to see...no carbs...no salt and I'll report back tomorrow....or the next day to see...
thanks..I don't really want to lose more weight...in the sense that I don't want to be leaner...but I have to get comfortable with the number and that's arbitrary.....it's all an adjustment and an excercise in acceptance...thanks ladies...SEAVIEW

Not in maintenance, but before I had surgery, I cut out all bread products and grains, including whole grains. I still ate unprocessed starchy vegetables and got carbs in that way. I didn't realize how bloated I was from the grains. I also discovered a wheat sensitivtiy. When I eat grains, especially any kind of wheat products, I bloat up really fast. Maybe try sticking to whole natural real food carbs like potatoes and corn and legumes to try to keep from losing too much and see what that does for you? Just throwing it out there. :) 
Abby

 it's all a big balancing act and no one person responds the same....but thanks for the feedback..yes I am very carb sensitive...always have been...fruit and vegetables should be all I go for....SEAVIEW