complex carbs vs protein post wls

 Ive always thought  more and more  protein has its drawbacks .....  stress on the kidneys ,  links to osteoporosis    , a   prematurely  " frail "  and aged look .....

ive never liked the Atkins  diet for that reason.....  just look at Dr. Atkins...   do you want to look like him ?    Especially not that he died prematurely ..... lol..... NOT , they  trumpet , from  eating his diet of course ....  

LOL  ... I  say ....  who is foolish enough to believe THAT ?!  his diet had nothing to do with his death ?! !!  

Now  Ive always done my own thing  all my life  ( and it didnt get me far) ..but thats  my personality .. and ive continued to do it here at OH .

I believe in a fat free moderate protein  moderate complex carbohydrate containing   diet largely in the form of veggies  - fresh or  Slightly   sauteed  or cooked .  Which also means a very high- fiber diet  BTW .

I  lost weight FAST  but have had a hell of a time getting it ALL  off .. then again my goal weight is 115  lbs and for a 5'9"  person thats very low .   I have NO  PROBLEM    maintaining a strong , defined  TOUGH  and athletic looking   body though ......

This  is  how i know im doing SOMETHING right -   

1)  i have never had  gastrointestinal issues  including   ulcers  pain etc  or constipation  EVER 

2)  i dont crave  snack foods or fast food  or anything naughty 

3) I heal FAST 

4) my hair is thick my eyes bright  my skin snapped back tight  and  my muscles look both defined and in their proper places  -  ie  i dont have that  " melted candle look "  at all....

For what its worth ...  I think  SOME carbs CAN be eaten  and tolerated post WLS  .

I think the no-carb thing  may be  just  a PREFERENCE  many  overweight people   have  who want o be able to continue to eat FAT  which is what theyre really addicted to  ....

Now U may well ask  ..is my POUCH  larger ..... and i will say yes ... but its not really a problem  unless  I start  to eat the wrong things .

In a sense  I am much more like a normal person-  I eat a larger portion of   low calorie stuff  and  eat it fairly OFTEN too  (  i like salads  between meals for instance -  or veggie snax  like  the bowlful of steamed Chinese  broad beans  .Im eating right now .......mmmmm) 

I actually  ate this way  before WLS too... only i couldn't STOP eating .    Now  , I can stop  when i want .  I can maintain my weight   WITHOUT  running every day  though i LIKE to exercise  for its many benefits  .....mental and  physical .

What WLS  did for me is I  dont  eat so much I have to exercise it OFF .  Thats huge .  

I just wanted to put it out here .. that there is a viable alternative to protein  more protein  and  cutting back on carbs .

I LOVE my veggies  and fruits  and even occasionally whole grains ....   

what do U  guys think ?   what works for YOU  ?  lets share  tricks and tips on attaining /maintaining  our goal weight  !  

I haven't figured it all out yet, though I do eat mostly protein with a few carbs throughout the day.  I eat fruit every day, veggies with my protein, and occasionally something like popcorn for the fiber. 

 For me carbs have always been a slippery slope...I am eight months out and I am just starting to put a bit of fruit in my shakes...ie..half a banana...or a handful of berries...I eat no bread...not pasta...no
potatoes..sweet or otherwise...I have been doing so well without the carbs for the first time in my life I think I could survive without them...of course vegetables and fruit...but nothing else..I do fine with shakes...dairy protein of all sorts...and nuts ( my little weakness) but even they are very low in carbs..
So for me carbs are dangerous and the sugar addiction so strong that I really fear going back in that direction....but I have lost weight before eating the ZONE diet which lets you have more carbs..but the carb addiction just snuck back up on me...that's my two cents...SEAVIEW

I don't have a problem with carbs, I have a problem with simple, refined carbs, mainly bread, pasta and sugar. History has shown me time and again that as long as those things stay out of my diet I do fine. Once I start eating those things it sets off a craving that won't stop until I endulge. I also stay away from whole grain bread and pasta because in the past I start with those and end up with the refined kind. I have also been trying to stay away from wheat products which is hard because wheat is in a lot of things. I do eat rye crackers and things like oatmeal. Actually I haven't had oatmeal for a while but I have a big container of it so I am sure I will be having some soon. I don't eat a lot of fruit lately but that is just because I eat protein first, then vegies and that usually fills me up before I get to the fruit. I don't even buy it because I usually wind up throwing it out. I do like high protein because it seems to help with the hunger and my weight loss is doing great so if it's not broke why fix it.
I don't avoid fat either. I don't eat fried things but I like cheese and milk and I would rather have 2% then fat free. My theory is if I can tolerate something in the low fat form I'll use it, like mayo but if it doesn't taste good I will go for the regular version.

In the beginning I did almost all protein. I stayed under 30 total carbs a day. Then when I started working out harder and running a lot, I added the healthy carbs back in, like fruits, veggies, and whole grains. I actually flew through the rest of the pounds I wanted to lose. Also, all of the sudden my restriction was not near as much as it was in the beginning, and eating fresh veggies allows me to eat more and feel full without adding calories or fat. Plus, I get all of the vitamins these foods offer. I also do not have to take fiber supplements.

I'm still pretty early out so my response won't be for the long term.  I still try to get my protein in first, then add veggies.  I am trying to have some fruit or veggies with almost every meal.  Yesterday included 1/2 apple, broccali, beans.  I would love to eat more veggies but at this point don't have the room.  I still take a fiber suppliment because there is no way to get enough fiber.  I'm not afraid of complex carbs at all.  Just don't have much room for them. 

Fat, hum.  I have next to no added fat.  Maybe light salad dressing occasionally.  Looking at the fat colunm on my tracker, I am still getting fat from meat and cheese and sometimes it amazes me how much.  It is usually around 25% of my intake.  And I don't have full fat anything (yogurt, cheese, etc.)  I know the body needs some fat and I have been losing so I'm ok with it.