Good Morning. Got good references?
What are some of the books and references you found helpful when you were starting your WLS journey? Obesity Help is a given. Books? I bought Weight Loss Surgery for Dummies very early out and built my WL history according to its format. The book is a start to finish kind of book that was like a bible to me very early on. Anyone else have "must have" references?
--gina
--gina
5'1" -- HW 195/SW 187/GW 115 July 08/CW 121 Dec 2012
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Starting BMI between 35 and 40ish?
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DS on Aug 9, 2007 with Dr. Hazem Elariny
My surgeons office gave me a book. It think it was titled "out of obesity". It was one woman's journey through wt loss surgery. I read it over and over while I was waiting for surgery. It got me to start trying to break bad habits before surgery and I also kept in mind the "honeymoon" phase and tried to gear up my exercising right from the start. Lin
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on 8/30/10 9:46 pm
on 8/30/10 9:46 pm
As far as what helped me release some of the internal pressure to compulsively overeat .... I would recommend the big book of overeaters anonymous ...and then the two step workbooks , OA and ACOA ( Adult Children of Alcoholics ) ( for codependency ,passivity , past abuse issues , people pleasing ... which very frequently go together with overeating ) .
I only ever got as far as completing step three in both ...and it took quite a lot of time because I answered only a single question every day ( and wrote a couple of pages which I then shared with my sponsor ) . It was VERY revealing what came out once I started writing ....very different stuff than I knew conciously or would have shared verbally .
Doing this literally made me be able to cut down my extra food intake by about half each time - to release some fifteen to thirty pounds permanently without really trying any harder than id tried before ... it was pretty much magical . It was also HARD and took a lot of time ...but was well worth it . I also did a fourth and fifth step verbally but not written down...
For me overeating is bound up with a lot of frustration, passivity , fear . I feel incapable of moving sometimes to act in my own best interest..and just want to dive into the food.
Eating excess food is my sanctuary , my comfort , my distraction. Its where I go to recuperate from mercilessly beating myself up for always being imperfect . I use excess food in a very drug-like way and I DONT mean medicinally ...I mean destructively .
Yet I have come so far from the days when i ate 35,000 calories a day and purged 5-7 times a day as a teenager .... so yes the twelve steps of OA DO work .....miraculously and in spite of myself . Im one of those clever people who find it incredibly hard to get " the program" because they cant manage to get out of their own way ...and yet it got (helped) ME ... thank GOD .
Now Im NOT of the mind that OA is enough for everybody to get to the weight they want / need to be ( I HAD to have bariatric surgery when my body decided to become diabetic and gained uncontrollably ) ,or that all bariatric surgery recipients are necessarily hardened lifelong compulsive eaters .
I have seen a lot of people stick to diets successfully here on OH - especially here in the liteweights board . Many of U are a LOT more teachable than I am ...thank GOD.
But I DO know that there are also many people here who consider themselves failures or question whether their surgery was a failure because they can only lose to a certain point . Very often this is because they cant let go of old overeating habits ..not because they dont know better but because its an emotional crutch and band -aid to cover over the pain of not taking proper care of oneself emotionally .
If U have abuse in Ur past .... if Ure a people pleaser or a codependent ... if U dont take proper care of Urself financially or otherwise .....dieting may be something U fail at over and over again....and dont know exactly why .
Well they say therapy can help ...maybe .
OA is a free group therapy among fellow suffererers .
I found these two workbooks( along with attending a meeting a day and working with a caring sponsor ) to be the quickest , most self-revealing way into a deeper understanding of why I ate and what I had to do to take better care of my needy , grabby inner child and STOP .
I only ever got as far as completing step three in both ...and it took quite a lot of time because I answered only a single question every day ( and wrote a couple of pages which I then shared with my sponsor ) . It was VERY revealing what came out once I started writing ....very different stuff than I knew conciously or would have shared verbally .
Doing this literally made me be able to cut down my extra food intake by about half each time - to release some fifteen to thirty pounds permanently without really trying any harder than id tried before ... it was pretty much magical . It was also HARD and took a lot of time ...but was well worth it . I also did a fourth and fifth step verbally but not written down...
For me overeating is bound up with a lot of frustration, passivity , fear . I feel incapable of moving sometimes to act in my own best interest..and just want to dive into the food.
Eating excess food is my sanctuary , my comfort , my distraction. Its where I go to recuperate from mercilessly beating myself up for always being imperfect . I use excess food in a very drug-like way and I DONT mean medicinally ...I mean destructively .
Yet I have come so far from the days when i ate 35,000 calories a day and purged 5-7 times a day as a teenager .... so yes the twelve steps of OA DO work .....miraculously and in spite of myself . Im one of those clever people who find it incredibly hard to get " the program" because they cant manage to get out of their own way ...and yet it got (helped) ME ... thank GOD .
Now Im NOT of the mind that OA is enough for everybody to get to the weight they want / need to be ( I HAD to have bariatric surgery when my body decided to become diabetic and gained uncontrollably ) ,or that all bariatric surgery recipients are necessarily hardened lifelong compulsive eaters .
I have seen a lot of people stick to diets successfully here on OH - especially here in the liteweights board . Many of U are a LOT more teachable than I am ...thank GOD.
But I DO know that there are also many people here who consider themselves failures or question whether their surgery was a failure because they can only lose to a certain point . Very often this is because they cant let go of old overeating habits ..not because they dont know better but because its an emotional crutch and band -aid to cover over the pain of not taking proper care of oneself emotionally .
If U have abuse in Ur past .... if Ure a people pleaser or a codependent ... if U dont take proper care of Urself financially or otherwise .....dieting may be something U fail at over and over again....and dont know exactly why .
Well they say therapy can help ...maybe .
OA is a free group therapy among fellow suffererers .
I found these two workbooks( along with attending a meeting a day and working with a caring sponsor ) to be the quickest , most self-revealing way into a deeper understanding of why I ate and what I had to do to take better care of my needy , grabby inner child and STOP .
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on 8/30/10 9:53 pm, edited 8/30/10 9:54 pm
on 8/30/10 9:53 pm, edited 8/30/10 9:54 pm
Another , totally unrelated book i like is called the METABOLISM DIET . Its NOT a diet !! lol
rather its a long , pretty scholarly description of the twenty ways a persons body can go awry biochemically triggering metabolic slowdown that makes them ever more obese ....and practical advice how to tell if each one is you and what to do about it .
It even covers emotional eating in the last chapter and has VERY practical advice how to recognize it and deal with it ....
rather its a long , pretty scholarly description of the twenty ways a persons body can go awry biochemically triggering metabolic slowdown that makes them ever more obese ....and practical advice how to tell if each one is you and what to do about it .
It even covers emotional eating in the last chapter and has VERY practical advice how to recognize it and deal with it ....
I've read several and bought two after reading them. Weight Loss Surgery for Dummies and The Expert's Guide to Weight Loss Surgery: Is it right for me? What happens during surgery? How do I keep the weight off? by Dr Garth Davis
I keep these two near my bed and read them at night to get me in the right mental state for surgery and life after surgery.
K
I keep these two near my bed and read them at night to get me in the right mental state for surgery and life after surgery.
K
Nope - absolutely no research, no preparation, no reading. I'm NOT saying this is the way to go, but my start to surgery was just about 4 weeks. Pretty much all I've learned has been from this site and people on OH who are willing to share their journeys.
My "must have" reference? MajorMom of course!
My "must have" reference? MajorMom of course!
HW-218/SW-208/CW-126/ Lowest Weight-121/Goal-125 - hit 8/23/09/Height-5'3"
Regain 30 lbs from 2012 to 2016 - got back on track and lost it. Took 8 months.
90+/- pounds lost BMI - 24 or so
Starting BMI between 35 and 40ish?
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I haven't read any books yet, but I did do a ton of research.
Google Scholar:
scholar.google.com is invaluable in looking up scholarly research on this surgery and weight loss.
American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery:
Sets the standards for pre and post-op care. It's important for us to know them, too.
They have lots of resources online - http://www.asmbs.org/Newsite07/resources/asmbs_items.htm
this one is the gold standard of nutritional guidelines:
http://www.asmbs.org/Newsite07/resources/bgs_final.pdf
(Table 4 will help you interpret your labs)
Google Scholar:
scholar.google.com is invaluable in looking up scholarly research on this surgery and weight loss.
American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery:
Sets the standards for pre and post-op care. It's important for us to know them, too.
They have lots of resources online - http://www.asmbs.org/Newsite07/resources/asmbs_items.htm
this one is the gold standard of nutritional guidelines:
http://www.asmbs.org/Newsite07/resources/bgs_final.pdf
(Table 4 will help you interpret your labs)
5'4 CW: 130, GW: 130
Springtime Challenge to reach goal of 130 in spring MET!!!
Springtime Challenge to reach goal of 130 in spring MET!!!
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My doctor recommended surgery in October. I went to Orientation in October, went to a couple of support group meetings, went to the 5 hour, all about surgery meeting in November, saw my surgeon in December and had surgery in February. I kept going to the Kaiser support group to listen to people.
Online I started at lapbandtalk then moved to verticalsleevetalk and then to OH where I've stayed.
I didn't buy any books about WLS. I spent many years in OA learning how to follow a food plan, how to journal my food etc. I worked the 12 steps over and over during my years in OA and hope that I learned to be honest with myself and others. I think that basis of the emotional component prepared me for this WLS lifestyle.
I still go go my support groups 2x a month and have a support group that walks the lake with me 2x a month. My Wednesday evenings are always tied into WLS support. And of course you know where I spend my mornings with my cup of tea! :)
My doctor recommended surgery in October. I went to Orientation in October, went to a couple of support group meetings, went to the 5 hour, all about surgery meeting in November, saw my surgeon in December and had surgery in February. I kept going to the Kaiser support group to listen to people.
Online I started at lapbandtalk then moved to verticalsleevetalk and then to OH where I've stayed.
I didn't buy any books about WLS. I spent many years in OA learning how to follow a food plan, how to journal my food etc. I worked the 12 steps over and over during my years in OA and hope that I learned to be honest with myself and others. I think that basis of the emotional component prepared me for this WLS lifestyle.
I still go go my support groups 2x a month and have a support group that walks the lake with me 2x a month. My Wednesday evenings are always tied into WLS support. And of course you know where I spend my mornings with my cup of tea! :)
HW: 249 SW: 229 GW: 149 Age: 63 - Body by Sauceda - 12/2011
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