Anyone else experience this?

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on 11/29/05 9:26 pm - Grass.Shack.by.da'Beach, VA
Hello gals and guys ~ The strangest thing happened to me last night. Actually, it's not extremely strange, since this has happened before****asionally) since WLS 3 years ago. The difference? ... before, I always tied it into not having eaten recently and being on the go nonstop. I met Paul (my hubby) at the travel agency yesterday at 11:00 - we're trying to book our FIRST Cruise for February. Before leaving, I had 2 protein shakes and deliberately did NOT eat because I'm trying to lose the 3lbs from Thanksgiving. I planned ahead though and took a low carb bagel with me, just in case I started getting the shakes. After we were done at the TA, I hit the Mall and started Christmas shopping. Spent four hours there bumming around, looking, walking, shopping, etc. Never felt the need to eat - no shakes, no hunger, nada. It's amazing how little I wanna graze when I'm NOT just sitting around, ya know? Anyway - got home at 4:30 and started dinner. Paul was in the mood for home made chili, easy enough. I still felt great; not hungry, not weak, dizzy, etc., but I figured I should munch on something while making dinner. Grabbed my low carb bagel and ate half of it just to get something into my system. Two hours later we sat down and had dinner - big bowl of chili, with onions, shredded cheese and sour cream, yum!! Ive eaten it this way ALL my life, including the last 3 years since surgery. I finished eating dinner, do the dishes, sit in the recliner and I'm veg'n for the night. About an HOUR later, still sitting down and on the laptop computer - I start feeling real heady, my heart is beating too fast, my hands start shaking, my vision is getting distorted. I can't focus on anything AND my brain starts to have a melt down of sorts. Literally. I was in the process of updating my AOL calendar with things I need to take care of next week, as I'm plugging in one of the reminders - I draw a blank. I can't even remember why I'm there or what I was doing. I shake my head a few times, trying to recollect my thoughts. I start updating again - then fade out - once again I'm staring at the screen and can't remember WHY I'm there. My hands are shaking so bad that I can't even get any key strokes out. Paul, in the mean time is starting to panic. He tells me to sit back and recline, tries wiping my brow (at this point, I'm sweating so bad, it's beading up). While he's talking to me, keeping me calm, he tries to rub my arm so that I know he's nearby. Just his gentle touch HURT, it felt like fire. I flinched, pulled away, tried to stand up - he runs over to help me.... good thing, I fell flat on my ass. At this point, everything hurts, including the clothes on my body. Right smack in the middle of my living room floor - I start flinging clothes OFF, can't get the long sleeved shirt off fast enough. Paul runs upstairs to get me a tank top and shorts and I'm sitting there drenched and in a DRUGGED UP and state'a mind. He helps me back up into the recliner and I stay there for another hour trying to regain my composure. The sweats, the hot flashes, rapid heart beat, the shakes, etc ALL subsides but I never come out of the FOG completely. We went to bed about 2 hours later and although I felt a 100 times BETTER, I still felt like I was in a drugged stupor. I've had these types of "moments" before over the last three years - but I've always been able to equate it to NOT eating. IF I feel it coming on, I just have to eat something and within 10 minutes, I feel great. I always assumed it was "low blood pressure" related and went on my merry way. What worries me about last night, is that it happened LONG AFTER I'd already eaten and fueled my body -and- while I was just relaxing. Also, what I'd eaten was actually good healthy food choices, so it shouldn't have spiked my blood pressure in anyway, right? Last night *seemed* like I was in a stage of insulin shock. No, I'm not a diabetic, never even close at 400 lbs. However, my step-mother was a "brittle diabetic" with 4 shots a day. She went into insulin shock 100's of times, and ended up in the hospital in an insulin coma several times, one of which eventually killed her. The symptoms she experienced, pretty much mirrored what I went through last night. Of course this is all based on "Lei Logic" and nothing else. WTFRICK happened to me? Anyone have any idea?!? As far as making an appointment with my PCP? These are my two choices - I can either GO to the EMERGENCY room, if I think I need to be seen now. Or I can schedule an appointment through Tricare Prime (insurance carrier) to see my PCP. Earliest appointment is 3 weeks from now, and I'll be in Washington State by then for the Holidays. Unless there is a cancellation between now and then, but I'd have to call daily and HOPE. Sheeeeeeeeeez! I don't consider it an emergency TODAY. Was last night one? Maybe? Probably? ....who knows. I can say it scared me enough to type out this really long post in hopes someone has a clue. Are there any "like experiences" out there? Lei
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on 11/29/05 9:45 pm - Fort Myers, FL
Hi there stranger. I am very happy to see you--even if it did take a scare to get you here. What you are describing sounds exactly like what happens to me when I have a dumping episode. Which, would also be like you describe your step-mother having. It always happens quite a while after eating for me. I have had that response from sugars and milk based products. The worst I have ever experienced was when I went out to dinner and had chowder and a crabcake. I could barely make it back to the hotel. It is funny because it doesn't sound like you ate anything that would bring it on. Do you put sugar in the chilli? If it was me I would probably wait to see if it happens again, and if it did, go to the emergency room. Do you have non-ememrgency walk-in clincs there you can go to? I hope it never happens again and was just a fluke. How have you been otherwise? I've been pretty darn busy and starting to panic about all I have to accomplish in a short time. Leaving for Boston in a week and then will return on the 12th. We leave on our cruise on the 17th and return on Christmas Eve. I was feeling very in control until my SIL said how are you gonna shop for Christmas food? Now I am panicked. Hope you never have this experience again and you have a great holiday season.
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on 11/29/05 11:01 pm - Grass.Shack.by.da'Beach, VA
Hello girlfriend - Sounds like you have a very busy schedule (kinda like mine, lately) and are staying very busy - complete with lots of stress added to the mix. Hey? Whatcha doing in Boston? Hopefully lots of FUN stuff. Are you gonna hook up with any OH Peeps while you're there? I keep telling Paul I want to make a road trip up the Eastern Coast, while we still live on this side of the world, never know where we "could" end up next, with the military. I want to hit Boston and New York while we're driving - lived in Boston for about 12 months as a child, military brat, and took a short trip to New York on my way to Bermuda, about 10 years ago. Problem is, I was so large, that I absolutely HATED the NY trip. Everything in that town, dictates walking, if possible, along with cab rides. My size didnt make that easy or fun. ENJOY your CRUISE!!! How could you not? I have another really good friend (Hello Nancy, if you're out there!) who is also going on a cruise in December, but hers is leaving from CALI, I believe. She's been a WEALTH of information and has been helping Wendy and I to plan the cruise we want to take in February. I can't wait to finally get my FIRST one under my belt - it's kinda overwhelming (or at least the first one is) so much to learn, think about, plan, reserve, etc, that I woulda given up by now if Nancy hadnt taken our hands (keyboards) and helped. As far as sugar in my chili? No, but I do add ketchup (real stuff, not low carb) and I like to add LOTS of beans, someone else on the main board (I think it was, Im getting all my responses messed up) said it might have been a CARB overload? Hugs - Lei (sorry, not proofin' nothing today)
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on 11/30/05 1:08 am - Fort Myers, FL
I agree it definitely sounds like dumping and it is probably from carb overload. Ya know cereal of any sort does that to me-Charlie had me convinced it was the milk in the cereal but when I tried eating the cereal with vanilla yogurt the same thing happened. I, too, suffer from the "I'm not a doctor, but like to pretend I am one". Before moving to Florida when I had finally decided to move ahead with the wls I went to see my primary doc. It was the first time I had been there in 3 years--I was also having some other issues --she looks at me and says--I guess I better take this visit seriously since things must be pretty bad for you to make a visit here--lol, she was right. Do you have a regular doc? or is the reason why you couldn't get in because you don't have a regular doc? Have a great day--If I don't get the rest of my Christmas stuff up I'm gonna commit myself to an asylum.
NowhereMan
on 11/29/05 9:50 pm - NoWhere Land
Short-term flu bug? Did you happen to take your temp during this episode? BTHOOM Nowhere Man/PH/Jay
chilidog
on 11/29/05 10:43 pm - pepper pike, OH
what is bthoom? is it bathroom without the a & r? is it Beginning To Hallucinate. Out Of Mind. Please enlighten this in the dark queen of procrastination... ...once again I am stalking the boards with too little sleep and far too much energy. Karen
NowhereMan
on 11/29/05 10:55 pm - NoWhere Land
If I was implying 'bathroom', I would use the kindergarten pronunciation and type Bafroom. BTHOOM = Beats the hell out of me Nowhere Man/PH/Jay
chilidog
on 11/29/05 10:59 pm - pepper pike, OH
You are my hero. ...any other cool stuff up your sleeve? Karen
NowhereMan
on 11/30/05 1:23 am - NoWhere Land
Prestidigitation is not my strong suit. Nowhere Man/PH/Jay, (*****minds you that the moral of the Sampson story is that heroes suck.)
chilidog
on 11/30/05 12:56 pm - pepper pike, OH
OK yeah, that too. And BTW, about your question the other day regarding Aliyah...there is only one free and open society in the insanity by the Gulf...within the borders there are no hypocrites...it's the noisy neighbors that are the problem. If you wanted to make an incredible and life changing journey while living in the one true religious/cultural melting pot, not only would I envy you, I would find a way to get on a Fastpass and move my family back where they/we belong. ...no longer looking to you as a hero among lost and tattered souls...only wishing that I had sharper skills with acrostics. Finding that under stress I cannot eat or sleep...mixed emotions about former MO self using food as medication. Good night all. If I reply to anyone know that it is my bizzaro world self taking over. Karen
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