Protien calculater and qwestions

JoAnn
on 8/26/05 9:00 pm - north of boston.., MA
bourngorno bellas and bellos i was cleaning out my computer and i came across a protien calculater from unjury..i put my weight and hieght in and it says i need 50 grams of protien a day..now i have a qwestion for us? i put in my weight from before surgery and it said i needed 97 grams of protien a day and i start fooling around putting diffrent weights in and i noticed that the less you weigh the less protien you sem to need..now im not a brain surgeon but ..does that mean at my weight i dont have to try to get all thoat protien in me because my body dosent need it?i know the protien supplements wont hurt me but after writing down and filling out what i eat for the day im getting enough protien in without protien supplements.. just a thought i mean is there any reason why as a post-op i need to get all that protien in me like i did when i first had my surgery and it kinda makes sence to me with the weight as we lose we dont need as much protien..who knows im not a diettician but does anyone have any thoughts out there.. after hitting goal are people still shoving 90 grams of protien in them still and maintaing weight or as a post-op are you getting enough protien from your food intake?: thanks JoAnn : lifes a ride enjoy it
RITA32
on 8/26/05 10:15 pm - Stoneham, MA
Hi JoAnn, I don't know exactly how much more protein we need as each person absorbs differently, but we do need more than than average person because we don't absorb everything from what we eat. Looks like it's going to be a great day. Sun is shinning!! Enjoy it, won't be too many more like this....
Darlene
on 8/27/05 12:49 am
I count only the grams of protein from my supplements, as I have NO clue how much I really do absorb. If I get any from my real foods then I consider that a bonus. I range from 100-120 grams a day supplemented. Remember thos calculators are for people that have not had any type of WLS. Darlene
JoniB
on 8/27/05 10:41 pm - Cape Girardeau, MO
Just to be add more confusion to the mix ..... My friend's doctor told her just because your protein drink says it has "xx" grams of protein, it may not. That's because most of these protein powders, etc. are not regulated by the FDA. Sure enough, I looked at my giant container and it says claims are not regulated by the Food and Drug Administration. Does that mean the protein grams are less? Are we getting less protein than we think? It's so crazy?! Joni
UNJURY
on 8/28/05 9:10 am - Sterling, VA
Hi JoAnn You asked some good questions about the UNJURY Protein Calculator. Protein intake is of course extremely important, and because I will *try* to be brief, I won't do the subject justice at all...but this is a start. First, there is no good clinical research available on how much protein gastric bypass patients need. This is undesirable, but true. At UNJURY, we try to make recommendations based on sound clinical research, so this gap in the research left us looking for a sound basis for making a recommendation. The best solution we came up with was to informally survey some of the bariatric practices around the country, and see what they are recommending. We did this for two years in a row at the American Society for Bariatric Surgery annual meeting. The average recommendation, across both genders and all bypass patients, was about 65 grams. It should be noted that average recommendation for grams of protein per day increased somewhat between the two years. In the absence of clinical research, we designed the UNJURY calculator, which is for estimation purposes in any case, to align with the recommendations of the bariatric practices. We are currently working on a modest adjustment in the calculator to increase modestly the recommendations it makes. (The calculator IS designed to be appropriate for gastric bypass patients.) Separately, your bariatric surgeon's office knows your specific situation, and we would absolutely recommend following that office's advice if it differs from the calculator. Second, you are correct that there is good clinical support for recommending increased protein as body weight increases. This is consistent with National Academy of Science recommendations, and this is well-support supported by research on the general population. It might be that protein needs are higher during periods of rapid weight loss, but again, there is no clinical research on that. Separately, to answer Joni's question, it is correct that the FDA does not tightly regulate or monitor protein supplements. We believe that a significant fraction of the supplements on the market have less protein than they claim. This is also true of some protein bars. So it is important to consider whether the manufacturer is trustworthy. I hope this is helpful. Feel free to respond with more questions. Kind regards Jerome Krachenfels UNJURY Protein Supplements
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